Starmer on Marr now

[Jaysmith71]

We must have a tolerent debate.... Trans community are the most marginalised community of all

....and 'Only women have a cervix' is, "Something that should not be said."

@7H9g5Kj

The letter by Jean is so powerful. You can sense her fury so clearly. Very well written.

Agreed

I think "Keri" has a kind of ironic truth to it as a name for the high priest of Labour wokedom who tell us we cannot even talk about what defines us as biological women.

We all know it

I stand with Carole

Och Jean. You 🥳🥳🥳❤️❤️😎😎

Jean stands up for murdered women.

Never forget 😥😥

@WouldBeGood

I stand with Carole

I’m totally with Carole. China in your hands is a cracking tune too.

@ElizabethTudor takes me back to my youth 😃

[quote Imnobody4]Jean Hatchet has written an excoriating open letter to KS.

www.jeanhatchet.com/post/open-letter-to-keir-starmer?s=09[/quote]
Such an eloquent Hatchet job. I've sent that to DH.

Carol Decker has already had grief, recently for insisting that Welsh is a foreign language so she was probably going to be guaranteed a pasting for expressing any views at all about anything gender related, simply because there would be people ready to pounce.

Bloody hell Jean Hatchet, that is a colossus of a letter. And I agree with every furious, enraged syllable.

Brilliant letter Jean Hatchet. I'm with you all the way.

Ditto Carole - somewhat less eloquent but exquisitely to the point.

I'm beyond angry. And the Welsh woksters will be rubbing their little hands with glee. Open season on misogyny in the Labour Party.

Maria MacLachlan"s take on the interview. I'm always feels like I've watched a well planned and delivered lecture after watching Maria, she's so coherent.

Times article:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ff088f68-1efd-11ec-a1fd-37d9030e4d65?shareToken=11ba1ade7d2a686b7711c892fcda75f3

I will still vote Labour. We need the Tories out. We need the NHS and the Tories are stealing it from us. I can't stand Keir Starmer. But ..

We also need women's rights. So I can't vote Labour.

I'm troubled by what's been happening. I don't want trans people discriminated against but I'm never in this world going to pretend that they have a cervix, or that they are actual women. But I'd happily eat dinner with one.

I am troubled that Rosy Duffield says she has been threatened by activists-that's no way to do politics, and it's a shame in the party if it is true. Although I'd like to see the detail, as it's so hard to trust what politicians say these days.

@Joystir59

I will still vote Labour. We need the Tories out. We need the NHS and the Tories are stealing it from us. I can't stand Keir Starmer. But ..

Don't kid yourself that Labour is a safe pair of hands for the NHS, yes they might throw more money at it but they never address the actual issues. Also it was Labour that saddled NHS trusts with PFI contracts

I'd still vote labour, although I think their leader is a donkey.

I am troubled that Rosy Duffield says she has been threatened by activists-that's no way to do politics, and it's a shame in the party if it is true. Although I'd like to see the detail, as it's so hard to trust what politicians say these days.

Not only is it true, but you'll be able to see the evidence of it on Twitter if you search her name.

That Times article linked by @Igneococcus is interesting.

The writer Eleni C says that Javid 'contradicted' NHS advice with his tweet because the NHS tells trans men to go for cervical smear tests. But Javid doesn't contradict it at all, because he would appear to believe that trans men are women, a belief he is legally entitled to hold. It a further position which is biologically correct, as one would expect of the Health Secretary.

Yes, @SpindleWorld, I clocked that and was a bit about the writer's beliefs.

Javid's Twitter feed was full of TRAs in response!

Just waiting confidently for the short film to clarify the statements, correct misunderstandings and reassure women, as they did for trans activists...

...and waiting...

Well, first they came for the jews, and now they're coming for the women.

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Good article on Spiked about this

www.spiked-online.com/2021/09/26/now-spineless-starmer-wont-even-defend-biological-reality/