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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Rosie Duffield thank you

237 replies

Whatthechicken · 10/09/2021 16:39

I haven’t seen another thread on this today and I know she must be on here - thank you Rosie!

Rosie on Twitter today:

twitter.com/rosieduffield1/status/1436276236049862661?s=21

Hope that’s a clicky link.

Despite the hate you may be getting Rosie, there is a legion behind you!

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yourhairiswinterfire · 11/09/2021 19:42

@RedDogsBeg

I think she is trans phobic, because she seems to equate access of trans women to women's spaces (which is legal now) as inherently dangerous.

It was certainly fucking dangerous for the 10 and 12 year old victims of Katie Dolatowski, who threatened them with a knife before sexually assaulting them and that was under the present system. Your view that you don't think it will be even easier under the reforms would be laughable if it wasn't so contemptible.

Yup. Fucking dangerous for the female inmates that are now locked up with and are being sexually assaulted by the tw sex offenders who are legally in their spaces, too.
Waitwhat23 · 11/09/2021 19:48

And Katie Dolatowski was placed in a 'female only' hostel despite sexually assaulting young girls -

www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3928585/transgender-sex-offender-female-only-fife-hostel-katie-dalatowski-furious-residents/

CatherinaJTV · 11/09/2021 19:48

Did you complain to the shop staff/leisure centre staff about complete strangers throwing things at you?! shock

My classmate. No, we did not complain. She was embarrassed, but the girls rallied round her each time.e

CatherinaJTV · 11/09/2021 19:49

How shocking for your friend. And shocking because I have never come across this before. Anyone else ever seen a women/female experiencing this behaviour? If I see a short-haired flat-chested person I can tell if they are male or female by their body shape and language once they have reached puberty. Weird for your friend.

it's not the only time this has happened though - there are a number of NGC women chronicling their experiences and it happens to them almost daily.

CatherinaJTV · 11/09/2021 19:50

Yup. Fucking dangerous for the female inmates that are now locked up with and are being sexually assaulted by the tw sex offenders who are legally in their spaces, too.

WHY can anyone assault anyone in prison? Why don't we change the prisons? Most assaults will happen by cis individuals. Why are assaults happening at all?

CatherinaJTV · 11/09/2021 19:51

In any case - it's kitchen cleaning time for me. Good night.

GrandmaMazur · 11/09/2021 19:58

Have just seen that Rosie Duffield will be missing the labour conference because of security concerns. Am sure Keir Starmer will be vocal in his condemnation against all the abuse and aggression she’s received.

RedDogsBeg · 11/09/2021 20:00

@CatherinaJTV

Yup. Fucking dangerous for the female inmates that are now locked up with and are being sexually assaulted by the tw sex offenders who are legally in their spaces, too.

WHY can anyone assault anyone in prison? Why don't we change the prisons? Most assaults will happen by cis individuals. Why are assaults happening at all?

No such thing as cis individuals.

Assaults in the female prison estate were lower than low and certainly no incidents of rape until they started putting TW in there (or more accurately men who claim they are TW). The change to prison accommodation changed the levels of assault, so there you go a change to accommodate the ideology you support has directly and detrimentally impacted in women, but of course you will never accept that because women and their safety are an anathema to you.

yourhairiswinterfire · 11/09/2021 20:10

WHY can anyone assault anyone in prison? Why don't we change the prisons? Most assaults will happen by cis individuals. Why are assaults happening at all?

Yeah, women can be assaulted by other women in prison anyway so what's wrong with adding to the problem by inviting convicted rapists and male sex offenders to join in?

Hmm
MandyMotherOfBrian · 11/09/2021 20:45

Ignoring the sealion, and back to the original point of the OP - ie a Rosie Duffield appreciation thread - Thank you Rosie, as a constituent of yours, you have my full support. In this current climate you are a very brave woman. Especially as you will know standing up for women, and their rights, is likely to cost you dear, in terms of votes, in the university constituency you represent. How very different to the motivations of Ben Fitter-Harding, so desperate to get ahead that, despite being gay and probably having been on the receiving end of homophobia many times in his life, he still aligned himself with an MP that consistently, and openly, opposed equal rights for gay and lesbian people. He has zero integrity. But I guess this swipe is worth it to him, at least it deflects attention from his woeful inadequacies in the job for a while.

334bu · 11/09/2021 21:08

Most assaults will happen by cis individuals. Why are assaults happening at all?

Then why do you want to make it easier for male prisoners to assault female prisoners ?

GrabbingTheWorldByTheLapels · 11/09/2021 21:31

@CatherinaJTV - each time? So every time your ‘classmate’ entered a changing room she had things thrown at her? Did this happen in more than one place or in many places? And it happened everyone every-time she went to this/these places? And what exactly do you mean things thrown at her - what things? And why would this be? Wouldn’t it be the usual experience of being spoken to first before being attacked with things being thrown at her? Hmm
Actual ‘literal’ violence.

IsitM · 11/09/2021 21:34

@GrandmaMazur

Have just seen that Rosie Duffield will be missing the labour conference because of security concerns. Am sure Keir Starmer will be vocal in his condemnation against all the abuse and aggression she’s received.
www.spectator.co.uk/article/rosie-duffield-to-miss-labour-conference-due-to-security-concerns
ChattyLion · 11/09/2021 21:40

Wow Rosie Duffield is just great. She writes and speaks brilliantly on this issue. Thank you Rosie! She’s an excellent example of a principled politician. [flower]

ChattyLion · 11/09/2021 21:41

Flowers even

RedDogsBeg · 11/09/2021 22:08

Yes, all credit to Rosie Duffield for speaking out and standing by her words, it takes strength to do so when under such relentless attack. How telling that Rosie cannot attend the Labour Conference due to security concerns. What was that about both sides and be kind again?

How many women are going to require a security detail when attending Labour conferences before Kier wakes up and smells the misogynist coffee his party is brewing?

334bu · 11/09/2021 22:31

Appalling that Rosie can't be safe at her own party's conference.

RedDogsBeg · 11/09/2021 22:38

Appalling that Rosie can't be safe at her own party's conference.

It certainly is, the Labour Party should hang their heads in shame, it was bad enough that women MP's and a BBC reporter required a security detail but to sink to the point where even that would not be enough is, as you say, appalling.

Rhannion · 11/09/2021 22:54

@Whatthechicken

I haven’t seen another thread on this today and I know she must be on here - thank you Rosie!

Rosie on Twitter today:

twitter.com/rosieduffield1/status/1436276236049862661?s=21

Hope that’s a clicky link.

Despite the hate you may be getting Rosie, there is a legion behind you!

Indeed, we are a legion
Rhannion · 11/09/2021 22:55

Thank you Rosie

MrsOvertonsWindow · 11/09/2021 23:22

@RedDogsBeg

Appalling that Rosie can't be safe at her own party's conference.

It certainly is, the Labour Party should hang their heads in shame, it was bad enough that women MP's and a BBC reporter required a security detail but to sink to the point where even that would not be enough is, as you say, appalling.

If women MPs aren't safe at conference are any women safe? Maybe the conference needs to be cancelled until the LP have removed the toxic misogynists who are threat to women? Just a thought.
JacquelineCarlyle · 11/09/2021 23:54

I agree - the conference should be cancelled if their female MPs aren't safe. That should be a no-brainer and says a lot about the party that the conference is going ahead, despite the lack of safety for women.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 11/09/2021 23:55

#CancelTheConferenceNotDuffield

RedDogsBeg · 11/09/2021 23:58

@JacquelineCarlyle

I agree - the conference should be cancelled if their female MPs aren't safe. That should be a no-brainer and says a lot about the party that the conference is going ahead, despite the lack of safety for women.
These are the kind of tough questions Keir Starmer should be asked - why is your conference not considered safe for an elected member of Parliament to attend? What are you going to do about it?
JacquelineCarlyle · 12/09/2021 00:06

Who / how can we ask him those questions though @RedDogsBeg ? I'd be up for posing the question but wouldn't have a clue about how to get heard!