Welsh Government: Transgender people are people who are born as one sex but are the other sex

[OldCrone]

This is from the new LGBTQ+ Action Plan for Wales: easy read version

Transgender people are people who are born as one sex but are the other sex. For example, a person who looks like a man on the outside may be a woman on the inside

This is one of the documents for the current consultation about the new LGBTQ+ Action Plan.

I decided to look at the easy read version and the young people's version since the standard version didn't seem to have any kind of glossary about the terms used. The easy read version does, but some of the definitions, like this one, don't make sense. The young people's version, like the standard version, has no glossary.

In a consultation about LGBTQ+ people, the Welsh Government appears to be unable to define clearly what terms like 'transgender', 'gender identity' and 'non-binary' actually mean.

[Aparallaxia]

Ides 'As I say, though: I do recognise the atmosphere of hostility, first and foremost, wherever I am. The consensus here is against trans women, and people are very clear that they're going to show it. It's not something I feel the need to engage in. So ... that's all from me. smile'.

They always do flounce off at the end, don't they? Almost like they sense they aren't winning... .

'The consensus here is against trans women'... yes: against them in women's spaces, places, positions, prisons, changing rooms, etc.

'My friend who is a trans woman - who most here seem to have forgotten, it seems, the better to make all this an impersonal sort of discussion - is one of the kindest, nicest people I've ever met. I'm never, ever going to put the hostilities of natal-women (whether they be of the radical feminist, or the simple prejudiced, conservative kind) above her simple, ordinary need to take a pee or get changed.'

In case you come back, Ides, take a look at these kind, nice transwomen:

WARNING: NSFW
twitter.com/LilyLilyMaynard/status/1392769251346456579
mobile.twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1412731029270450177
archive.is/bBshL
www.womenarehuman.com/man-wearing-a-dress-and-wig-jailed-for-masturbating-in-three-different-stores/

Would you have this person in your home?
nypost.com/2017/10/20/transgender-woman-convicted-of-sexually-assaulting-girl/

Or allow this one to have home-help services provided from a woman?
www.womenarehuman.com/man-transgender-convicted-of-sexually-violating-a-woman-who-came-to-clean-his-home-sherry-sherri-dawn-barrett/

Sexual offenders, especially those who prey on children, do not change when they change gender or dress up in girls' clothes:
www.womenarehuman.com/man-hides-past-as-child-rapist-by-becoming-transgender-and-changing-name-allison-nee-dennis-woolbert/
coventryobserver.co.uk/news/pervert-subjected-girl-10-to-horrific-ordeal-of-abuse-in-torture-den-attic/

And this sort of offending is predictably similar to that of men:
www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/pervert-filmed-thousands-of-coffee-shop-customers-on-the-toilet-in-cafes-across-london-a3142171.html
www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scots-sex-offender-who-hid-24125590
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6106937/Eddie-Catz-founder-caught-secretly-filming-schoolgirls-swimming-pool.html
fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-prisoners/

So here's the problem: how we are supposed to keep these 'nice, kind' people out of female spaces if self-ID is enough to qualify as a woman? This is urgent: it's happening, probably somewhere near you, right now. So, any suggestions?

[DdraigGoch]

We always get the "my friend is a TW and wouldn't hurt a fly..."

Guess what, many of the posters know individual men (romantically or otherwise) who they'd trust with their life. That doesn't mean that they think all men should be allowed into female spaces. Moreover, even though they know that Fred wouldn't hurt a fly, they recognise that other women can't know whether to trust an unknown man. Therefore they don't try to push for Fred to access women's spaces.