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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Pushback at Wi Spa in Los Angeles

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FannyCann · 27/06/2021 11:14

Well it's all kicking off at the spa. An amazing woman behind the desk standing up for women and telling a man where to take his penis. I fear she will lose her job over this but it's a glorious way to go.

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DisgustedofManchester · 08/07/2021 16:47

Erm no, its unacceptable to lie about being offended by things that have never happened. I have yet to hear of any trans woman deliberately exposing herself in a single sex space in the UK and to be honest, I don't actually trust many of the US outlets as reliable. This is like many stories we see. Complete outrage followed by the truth because anti-trans people have to make things up to be outraged at.

OldTurtleNewShell · 08/07/2021 16:51

@DisgustedofManchester

Erm no, its unacceptable to lie about being offended by things that have never happened. I have yet to hear of any trans woman deliberately exposing herself in a single sex space in the UK and to be honest, I don't actually trust many of the US outlets as reliable. This is like many stories we see. Complete outrage followed by the truth because anti-trans people have to make things up to be outraged at.
That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it. Another round of this dance.
Deliriumoftheendless · 08/07/2021 16:53

Dis- you know full well it’s happened in women’s prisons.

You just don’t care.

Deliriumoftheendless · 08/07/2021 16:54

But y’know, it’s just women saying it. And we all know what they’re like.

Just come out and say it, eh?

Deliriumoftheendless · 08/07/2021 16:55

Of course it’s fine to lie about what JK Rowling wrote.

And all the rest.

Blah blah.

Tinysalmonswimminginastream · 08/07/2021 16:56

@DisgustedofManchester

Erm no, its unacceptable to lie about being offended by things that have never happened. I have yet to hear of any trans woman deliberately exposing herself in a single sex space in the UK and to be honest, I don't actually trust many of the US outlets as reliable. This is like many stories we see. Complete outrage followed by the truth because anti-trans people have to make things up to be outraged at.
So would it be OK or not for a transwoman to get their penis out in a female only space? Just in theory, like? Are we supposed to just 'look away', or are we allowed to object?
Tinysalmonswimminginastream · 08/07/2021 16:59

@Deliriumoftheendless

Dis- you know full well it’s happened in women’s prisons.

You just don’t care.

And in women's refuges.

www.womenarehuman.com/male-transgender-boasts-of-harassing-women-in-crisis-shelter/

Or are women making this up too?

langclegflavoredbananamush · 08/07/2021 16:59

Meanwhile, Cubanangel gave a press conference at a church. (sorry if I missed this upthread somewhere). It seems that while she wasn't aware of the atrocious legal situation in California at the time of the viral video, she is now, and is planning to do something about it.

She gave a press conference at a church,
www.instagram.com/tv/CRCaAmuilnu/?utm_medium=copy_link
and there is this site, I'm not sure if she's managing it, looks like it's really hers, though.
www.cubanaangel.com

Helleofabore · 08/07/2021 17:00

Are we supposed to just 'look away', or are we allowed to object?

Or do we just 'tut' as we were told by one activist some time ago?

Helleofabore · 08/07/2021 17:10

@DisgustedofManchester

Erm no, its unacceptable to lie about being offended by things that have never happened. I have yet to hear of any trans woman deliberately exposing herself in a single sex space in the UK and to be honest, I don't actually trust many of the US outlets as reliable. This is like many stories we see. Complete outrage followed by the truth because anti-trans people have to make things up to be outraged at.
So, both the women who have now reported this are lying? Why? The mother of the six year old gave dates and even had two guest passes from wi spa that wi spa have not denied....

So... this has 'never happened' at the wi spa LA twice now.

And the fact that Californian law prevents being able to discriminate against males entering into female single sex spaces not equating to the UK being able to claim exemption under the law hasn't occurred to you?

Either way, this completely defeats the point. It is more distraction and deflecting. No one even knows if this person was trans or not really. Only that they felt they fully able to access that section of the spa.

Why not instead answer the safeguarding issue which is the issue in question.

Is it acceptable for any naked male with a penis to get into a hot tub with either a nine year old girl or a six year old girl present?

NecessaryScene · 08/07/2021 17:48

So, both the women who have now reported this are lying?

And the member of staff in the video who was explaining that the man was transgender?

Deliriumoftheendless · 08/07/2021 17:54

Well, was the member of staff male or female? Because I’d say if they were male its true (men don’t lie) but if it was a woman, well, how could it be the truth?

Isn’t that right Dis?

Helleofabore · 08/07/2021 17:55

Are women making up the growing porn category of males performing sex acts in female toilets too?

Or.... is that not happening too?

Sophoclesthefox · 08/07/2021 17:58

@NecessaryScene

So, both the women who have now reported this are lying?

And the member of staff in the video who was explaining that the man was transgender?

Exactly. Surely you’d believe him, Disgusted, he’s a man?

What did the woman getting a refund get a refund for, why were there a lot of women in robes in the reception, and what guest was the receptionist talking about if none of this happened?

Pitiful grasping at straws.

Make it theoretical if it helps, given your understandable trouble with believing women, and your rather more obscure reluctance to fathom that transwomen do indeed want to exercise all of the freedoms that you’re campaigning for: Is it OK for a naked male bodied person to be in a naked spa with naked women and young girls, or not? Really easy question.

Datun · 08/07/2021 17:58

@DisgustedofManchester

Erm no, its unacceptable to lie about being offended by things that have never happened. I have yet to hear of any trans woman deliberately exposing herself in a single sex space in the UK and to be honest, I don't actually trust many of the US outlets as reliable. This is like many stories we see. Complete outrage followed by the truth because anti-trans people have to make things up to be outraged at.
"I have yet to hear of any trans woman deliberately exposing herself in a single sex space in the UK"

What a crock.

How about a building full of vulnerable women, many of whom had previously suffered sexual assault and abuse? A building locked and secured so that those women could not get out and could not get away from that convicted sex offender?

The defendant would stand very close to [the victim], touch her arm and wink at her. Her penis was erect and sticking out of the top of her trousers.”

Sophoclesthefox · 08/07/2021 17:59

X post delirium!

Am also wondering why it doesn’t help to have a “reliable” witness to events, to make up for the women disgusted presumes are lying.

Helleofabore · 08/07/2021 18:01

@langclegflavoredbananamush

Meanwhile, Cubanangel gave a press conference at a church. (sorry if I missed this upthread somewhere). It seems that while she wasn't aware of the atrocious legal situation in California at the time of the viral video, she is now, and is planning to do something about it. She gave a press conference at a church, www.instagram.com/tv/CRCaAmuilnu/?utm_medium=copy_link and there is this site, I'm not sure if she's managing it, looks like it's really hers, though. www.cubanaangel.com
And since this press conference, I notice that there has been no counter statement from Wi Spa to say, this event did not happen....
Datun · 08/07/2021 18:02

@Helleofabore

Are women making up the growing porn category of males performing sex acts in female toilets too?

Or.... is that not happening too?

Indeed.
NecessaryScene · 08/07/2021 18:02

Maybe it was filmed on a set? Perhaps the Wi Spa doesn't really exist?

Deliriumoftheendless · 08/07/2021 18:05

Yes, sophocles it’s almost as if we’ve heard this bullshit before, isn’t it?

“Meet the new misogynist, same as the old misogynist.” But now with extra beard.

Deliriumoftheendless · 08/07/2021 18:06

@NecessaryScene

Maybe it was filmed on a set? Perhaps the Wi Spa doesn't really exist?
I hear Stanley Kubrick was asked to direct it. He turned it down but if you watch The Shining there’s loads of clues in it eg there’s a bathroom!
Helleofabore · 08/07/2021 18:06

Thanks Datun.

archive.is/bBshL

Is the one I was thinking of.

yourhairiswinterfire · 08/07/2021 18:10

@Helleofabore

Are women making up the growing porn category of males performing sex acts in female toilets too?

Or.... is that not happening too?

Yup, so obsessed with the peen we are, we must have collectively dreamt those videos of 'women' wanking in women's toilets with children audible in the background.

Because that never happens, women and girls are just deceitful little liars, making all this stuff up to make men look bad, huh?

Helleofabore · 08/07/2021 18:14

But hey now ... we are going to leave space for the answer to the safeguarding question aren't we? It has been asked directly to a few people hasn't it?

A simple yes or no.

Readers do invariably notice the complete lack of it being answered and posters avoid answering it using many methods...

Helleofabore · 08/07/2021 18:15

I mean, if posters pushing that these two woman are lying want people to actually believe them, they need to show how credible they are, right?

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