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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jameela and Josie backing away

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gardenbird48 · 10/08/2020 21:06

I’ve checked as much as I can and apparently Jameela Jamil and Josie Long (I’m not sure who she is but lots of followers) have deleted their tweets supporting Mermaids. Jameela also seems to have removed her unpleasant tweet(s) to JK Roeling (I don’t think I’ve missed them on the searches) An interesting development.

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Ameanstreakamilewide · 11/08/2020 14:02

@SerenityNowwwww

Oooh you can have it! Never been quoted before (in a good way!)
Thank you kindly. 👍
JamieLeeCurtains · 11/08/2020 14:14

I love that metaphor.

Backed a sparkly horse ... and it fell at Valentine's Brook

CaveMum · 11/08/2020 14:16

@JamieLeeCurtains

I love that metaphor.

Backed a sparkly horse ... and it fell at Valentine's Brook

Nice niche reference there, most people would opt for the more we’ll known Becher’s 😜
Haworthia · 11/08/2020 14:18

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JamieLeeCurtains · 11/08/2020 14:18

At the moment I think the sparkly horse is slowing down around the Canal Turn

CaveMum · 11/08/2020 14:20

@JamieLeeCurtains

At the moment I think the sparkly horse is slowing down around the Canal Turn
Hopefully about to do a “Devon Loch” in front of the stands!
Lelophants · 11/08/2020 14:22

I wonder why they deleted them! That's odd...
Something is happening then!

CaveMum · 11/08/2020 14:23

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BaronEssoStation · 11/08/2020 14:24

Removing text is very 1984.

That was Winston's job!

(My memory is shit)

JoysOfString · 11/08/2020 14:33

I used to listen to Book Shambles with her and Robin Ince, but it grates on me as for all she likes to aspire to being a vocal feminist and he likes to make himself out to be such a supporter of women there was a clear difference when he spoke to (or over) JL than when he chatted with male guests. And JL seemed to accept this as if this was the natural order of things. It all felt a bit like “run, Josie! Get away while you can!”

OMG Josie long

Sparkletastic · 11/08/2020 14:40

@MrsJamin

Deborah Frances-White has definitely lived up to her "Guilty Feminist" name. I couldn't listen to that podcast after they went all TWAW, it negated anything good or funny that they said.
Same. Recently had to give up on The High Low too for similar TWAW reasons.
JoysOfString · 11/08/2020 14:42

Oops seem to have posted too soon!

Was going to say Josie long on radio 4 when she does short cuts and appears on the infinite monkey cage. Uuuuurrrrgggh. Her "I'm so twee and lovable" thing has driven me insane for a long time but I really lost the plot when she started cropping up on radio 4. Her and Grace Dent, both present logic-free, over-emoting breathy right-on twaddle. I didn't know JL was a trans ally as I avoid her but of course it's no surprise. That kind of indie, girlie right-on-ness that is actually all about being a manic pixie dream girl to appeal to men, while not having a clue about actual pro-women feminism.

And yes I am a bitch but still, I'll support both Jameela and Josie if they start actually standing up for women.

SerenityNowwwww · 11/08/2020 14:46

I tagged Kids Company soon after I became aware of them. The giggangooly approach, teary eyed approach, the attitude of them being ‘saviours’ just didn’t feel like they had a thought out, sensible, long term plan for their ‘customers’. It felt it was more about them feeling good about themselves for helping ‘poor waifs and strays’. I soon learned that to question them was like saying ‘I drown kittens for fun’.

I seem to remember the house of cards collapsed bloody quickly.

nauticant · 11/08/2020 14:47

Is Mermaids about to do a Kids Company?

I don't think so. The thing that ended KC was running out of money, that was the moment when it became clear they did almost nothing beyond acting as a money firehose. Mermaids is very well funded and while that continues, the existential threat will be a big children and safeguarding scandal but I don't think a growing awareness that things are awry will do it.

SerenityNowwwww · 11/08/2020 14:49

That’s why when the kid comes off that can of worms it will be a million tones more spectacular. Or maybe I mean tin of fireworks?

nauticant · 11/08/2020 14:54

Was going to say Josie long on radio 4 when she does short cuts and appears on the infinite monkey cage. Uuuuurrrrgggh. Her "I'm so twee and lovable" thing has driven me insane for a long time but I really lost the plot when she started cropping up on radio 4.

Just for you JoysOfString: www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000k9bc from 16:40

JoysOfString · 11/08/2020 14:59

nauticant aaaaarrrrgggghhh!

What with this wibble and today's ridiculously over-hammy Archers monologue featuring Adam, I must hie me over to Times Radio asap.

Doyoumind · 11/08/2020 15:00

I don't even care about JJ anymore. She just follows the mood and lives in a bit of a privileged fantasy world where she embellishes stories significantly to suit her purposes, IMO.

JL was really digging her heels in around the JKR stuff very recently so I would be extremely surprised if there had been any real change of heart.

Redhair23 · 11/08/2020 15:01

@SheWhoMustNotBeHeard

Actually, I'm waiting for Emma Watson to back pedal because she has been so vocal about supporting them. I'll celebrate when that happens.
Out of everyone I am most disappointed with her.
EileenAlanna · 11/08/2020 15:06

@ItsLateHumpty she wasn't tagged so must have been looking for mentions of herself. (It was my Tweet)

Corsicana · 11/08/2020 15:17

That’s interesting @EileenAlanna

I find Josie Long v irritating and am ambivalent when it comes to JJ. I have no interest in what she has to say.

JamieLeeCurtains · 11/08/2020 15:37

Christ almighty, imagine googling yourself or searching for mentions like that. As the Dowager Countess Lady Violet might say, the sheer misplaced self-importance, the vanity, the idleness!

nevergettingbacktogether · 11/08/2020 15:40

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AzraiL · 11/08/2020 15:50

I tend to think of the whole thing as a sparkly trojan horse. Get taken in by the sparkles, let it in through the gates, then watch all hell break forth from its bowels.

Sparkles = we are whatever we feel like! We should have the right to identify as such! Gender fluidity! Acceptance and love! Hurrah!

Hell = YES I am 'biologically' a middle aged man but I identify as a 9 year old girl that likes boys. Age fluidity! It's how I feel and if I as a 9 year old girl can have sexual feelings so can those who are biologically 9! Give children their right to sexual freedom!

SerenityNowwwww · 11/08/2020 15:51

Or a hypnotist sparkly horse.

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