Lisa Nandy says child rapists should be in women’s prisons if they identify as female

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Extraordinary.

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=oUon9j1zJ_E&

What brilliantly clear and clarifying questions. Well done that woman.

I feel like I'm in an alternative reality - how the hell is this happening?

apologies, re my previous post there is a typo.
James Kirkup 'If MPs can’t debate a rapist in a woman’s jail, politics has failed' article was published 14th September 2018 (not 2020!)

Horrifying. And I'm really starting to despise James Morton: what a dangerous person.

According to Nandy, Karen White wasn’t a terrible anomaly, but a campaign aim!

I am so embarrassed to have even considered voting for her.

This is honestly one of the most shocking things I’ve read in quite a while. Terrifying.

That woman has a well deserved reputation for being fearless. I still remember with awed admiration, the way she asked awkward questions of other people in privileged positions for their dangerous views about the safety of women and children.

And I also recall with fondness how kind she was to me when we met at Lesbians on Chairs, and I still have the photo of us together. ✊wonderful Julia Long, unending respect.

What brilliantly clear and clarifying questions. Well done that woman.

Last year Dr Julia Long asked Munroe Bergdorf a question about child Safeguarding & was asked to leave:

Tue 19-Feb-19 OP happydappy2 wrote:
"Julia Long was asked to leave the venue, after asking MB if it was normal that an 11yr old child dancing in front of adults, has money thrown at them by grown men. This was at Transmission & was deemed an offensive question....video footage on twitter of the incident.....worth a watch, sorry I can’t link to it but hope someone else can.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd4UCemsC6s&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3512177-Julia-Long-asking-Munro-Bergdorf-about-child-exploitation

The answer to a question about placing male born rapists in women's prisons is TWAW. And she wants to lead the labour party and the country with that attitude to vulnerable women. God knows who she'd recommend to work with children from the long list of predators available to her.

twitter.com/TracyEdwardsMBE/status/1229128984648200194

Julia Long has ovaries of steel.

Anyone fancy transcribing the relevant parts? 1.27 for the bit about self ID for sex crime perps and 1.55 ish for the bit that ends with saying trans offenders choose their own prison.

Horrifying.

I bet she wouldn’t want a female friend / relative be the women locked in the same cell as a transgender woman sex offender.

Lisa Nandy wants Britain to be like Canada.

This video of Megan Murphy interviewing a woman who has actually been incarcerated alongside self ID trans women is worth a listen:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=GrxdLNg8-gs

June 2018

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/governors-fight-trans-inmates-in-women-s-jails-vg0kpv5q0

The Times:
"Prison governors say that there is a risk to women’s safety if transgender sex offenders held in men’s prisons are transferred to female jails."

"Andrea Albutt, president of the Prison Governors Association, told The Mail on Sunday: “I have seen women feeling very threatened by transgender prisoners’ presence . . . To put men who declare they are women into women’s prisons would be very damaging.”

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3269144-Prison-Governors-speak-directly-of-their-concerns-for-vulnerable-women

Re the applause for the statements of TWAW and TMAM.
All those that post here and those that just lurk, know exactly what is meant by a trans woman. They also know what is meant by a trans man.
I've spoken to many people who don't actually realise what those terms mean. This debate doesn't affect them and they believe in live and let live.
I think many people don't realise that a trans woman has no female biology at all.
Likewise a trans man has no male biology either.
By using the terms men and women it's muddying the waters in this debate.

This whole situation would be hilarious if we didn’t have food banks and disabled people committing suicide and kids crammed into classes of 32.

Labour have jumped the gender shark.

Truly one of the most shocking things I think I’ve heard an MP say!! How utterly craven is that awful woman
But well done Julia Long (again!)

2nd August 2019

(extract)
"The Scottish Prison Service said it would hold a consultation after research was published by a leading former civil servant.

There are 15 trans women inside Scotland’s jails – around half of which are housed in female prisons. None of themn have undergone sex reassignment surgery and none have legally changed their gender.

One prison worker told STV News that prisoners were regularly being subjected to displays of “sexualised behaviour”.

In her report, Edinburgh University researcher Lucy Hunter Blackburn said there was a lack of consideration given to the needs of women prisoners.

She said: “I’m absolutely astonished that a policy intended to move prisoners from the male estate into the female estate took no account of possible harms and risks to women.

“We already know that female prisoners are very vulnerable and have very high instances of mental health problems and histories of sexual and physical assault.” (continues)

news.stv.tv/politics/1439716-concerns-over-housing-trans-inmates-in-women-s-prisons?top

Brilliant Julia 👏

Nandy also said that transmen should be put in male prisons.

Not much thought about why they were sex segregated in the first place there eh?

And that doesn't mean they should be definitely placed in women's jails; as they often pass so well their presence could potentially be traumatising there too. It's extremely complicated.

So, I got from Lisa Nandy that all women, in all circumstances, have to give up their single sex spaces in order that it might help with the treatment of a few male persons’ gender dysphoria. Have I got that right?

They're only women and prisoners at that. Who cares? It's not like they're important, they're just disposable in pursuit of the woke goal.

Hey it wasn't a hustings, it was a Nandy event. I don't know how to describe it!

Thanks for sharing! Makes the trek to Wembley worth it!

What was your feeling Venice about the proportion of the room applauding? There must have been some people sitting with their heads in their hands (or had those people already been put off from the Today appearance?)

Thank you so much for doing this, it needs publicising.