Lisa Nandy says child rapists should be in women’s prisons if they identify as female

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Extraordinary.

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=oUon9j1zJ_E&

What percentage of the population do you think actually believe that TWAW and TMAM?

I would put it at less than 1%. I bet at least 90% of people who say it don’t actually believe it.

Fairplay For Women article:
Sex attacks: MPs must investigate risks of transgender prisoners
13th May 2019

(extract)
Nicola Williams said: “The evidence shows that allowing criminals with male bodies to have access to vulnerable women can pose a real threat. Experts have been warning about this for years but no action has been taken and women are suffering fear and abuse. MPs should be asking why the prison system is turning a blind eye to the abuse of women in its care.”

The report in the Sun is just the latest worrying sign about the risks posed by some transgender prisoners.

Senior figures in the criminal justice system have been warning of those dangers for some time and FPFW said MPs can no longer ignore the evidence.

Others who have expressed concern include:

Andrea Albutt, president of the Prison Governors Association said in June 2018: “I have seen women feeling very threatened by transgender prisoners’ presence. Women prisoners are very vulnerable.”

Frances Crook of the Howard League, a prison reform campaign, has said that she is worried that ‘some men with a history of extreme violence and sexual violence against women have found a new way of exercising aggression towards women’.

The British Psychological Society has said this: “psychologists working with forensic patients are aware of a number of cases where men convicted of sex crimes have falsely claimed to be transgender females for a number of reasons”

Dr James Barrett of the British Association of Gender Identity Specialists has said this: “It has been rather naïvely suggested that nobody would seek to pretend transsexual status in prison if this were not actually the case. There are, to those of us who actually interview the prisoners, in fact very many reasons why people might pretend this” (continues)
fairplayforwomen.com/sex-attacks-mps-must-investigate-risks-of-transgender-prisoners/

Any MP who has failed to listen to the many clear warnings by experts in criminal justice of serious Safeguarding risks to vulnerable females in prison must be held accountable.

Questions must surely also be asked of their advisors who have been providing briefs.

Ah yes and wear false eyelashes and high heels as all women always do. Even in bed.

And why is she always talking about the 1 trans person in her constituency

And neverb about the women in her constituency who have been murdered

if any rapist is going to go to the effort of uttering the words "I feel like a laydee on the inside" just to go to a woman's jail. What a load of faff, and what would be in it for them?

What would be in a women's jail for a rapist? Seriously?

Well Karen White certainly knew. I honestly don't think most males are this naiive!

Watching it again, it’s like she’s never considered the logical conclusions of blanket self-ID. As if Julia’s question tonight is the first time she’s considered the possibility that self-ID would impact crime stats, or where prisoners are housed. She was thinking on the hoof and just followed her TWAW ‘logic’, and didn’t seem to realise where it took her.

Absolutely incredible. My flabber is well and truly gasted.

Michelleoftheresistance lots of people in very senior positions can't possibly imagine what I'm suggesting. They surely can't all be thick. Maybe it could be general disregard for women, particularly women prisoners, and desperation to get the woke brownie points. Or maybe they're just utterly utterly thick.

What percentage of the population do you think actually believe that TWAW and TMAM?

It’s so absurd that most people just assume it’s just a metaphorical shoulder pat. They don’t realise that the person saying means it literally and in all circumstances (socially, medically, legally, politically and competitively for sports and scholarships).

Watching it again, it’s like she’s never considered the logical conclusions of blanket self-ID.

I've seen the same phrases repeated in a couple of different places as well as in articles; she's got her stock answer. Neither she nor her advisors have thought it through.

What was that 80s sitcom? "it's a girl... Its a girl with a winkie" "but a girl with a winkie is a boy"

Blackadder! Talking about Queenie,

Yes just remembered! She was brilliant

And why is she always talking about the 1 trans person in her constituency

Thats what's in her mind.
Any question that she's asked about sex self-id, she is thinking solely about that one child & their family.
A question about which prison a male who identifies as a woman should be placed in, she's imagining the impact on a vulnerable child she knows who has been identified as transgender.
From the speech this evening it seems as though she has made a promise (whether to herself or the child /family?) & so wont be moved from it.

"Mouth is open Nandy, should be shut"

Honestly. Nandy needs to get the sack from her job

Grrrrrrrr

Applause to Julia, l hope this breaks the internet. Share the F out of this !

Sorry I meant nursie of course

rowan. Time she got moved from it.

And moved out of her job

Jeez what an idiot

I believe a lot of people say TWAW half heartedly, in the back of their brain knowing they're not, but we play along to be kind. Because it's been super tough for them, we must be kind.

A lot truly believe you accidentally get the wrong brain or some sort of error occurs in the womb and we are protectively standing up for these poor souls. Be kind.

Can we just all be kind now and let the child rapist in?

Well yeah neuro

You have been raped as a child.
Oh well.
Who cares

Posie has put it up on her channel too.

Applause to Julia, l hope this breaks the internet.

2017 Dr Julia Long's speech on the importance of naming & identifying power dynamics in context of feminist history & development of women's services:

(extract)
"So why then is it important to make this distinction between sex and gender and why is it important to name men as men? Naming men as man was such a vital part of the women's liberation movement and feminist scholarship back in those early days. There were lots of books that had 'silence' in the title or essays that had 'silence' in the title because it was about women breaking the silences of our own lives and naming who was doing what to whom, and then seeing that there were patterns of this and that is how feminist theory emerged. So it's really crucial to name men as men because that is how we develop an understanding and an analysis of patriarchy. That's how. If we can't name men as men then we can't name patterns of male violence, we can't name who is in control.

So naming men as men, then, enables us to answer these kinds of questions: Who controls economic, social, political and cultural systems and institutions? In whose hands does this kind of economic and social and political power lay? Well, if we can name men as men then we can see exactly where it lies. And it also helps us to answer the question, who's doing what to whom? And so again, over decades, feminists have answered that question in terms of looking at what we know women are subjected to under patriarchal power relations between women and men: femicide, female infanticide, sex-selective abortion, female genital mutilation, rape, sexual assault, domestic violence, poverty, economic disadvantage, prostitution, pornography, discrimination, objectification - I'm thinking here in addition to all the sex industry, but just the normalised objectification of high heels and make up and cosmetic surgery and all of this stuff - illiteracy - hugely more of the world's poor and illiterate are women rather than men - denial of reproductive rights, exploitation of reproductive and domestic labour ... I mean that was just a kind of quick list off the top of my head" (continues)

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Thank you Julia and Venice, you brilliant women

Someone just posted this on Twitter

And thank you Pencils!