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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Isn't Helen Webberley still prevented from providing services in UK?

259 replies

LoveGrowsWhere · 06/08/2019 10:43

Because she's being quoted as an expert in this article.
inews.co.uk/news/puberty-blockers-transgender-rights-nhs-gender-clinic-uk-tavistock/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 04/03/2020 23:27

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FloralBunting · 04/03/2020 23:36

Claims to be a 44yo female to male, DuLANG so prolly not AGP.

R0wantrees · 04/03/2020 23:38

My NHS GP and many others happily work with Gender GP as they support their work. Dr Webberley’s actions are being scandalised due to lack of understanding by the GMC. Her practices are seen as normal by most countries - it is just our lack of understanding in the UK that has lead to Dr Webberley and her Husband being demonised in the press.

Both of the Drs Webberley were reported to the GMC by medical practitioners due to failures in their practice. Dr Helen Webberley was found guilty of a criminal offence.

It would be negligent & reckless for NHS GPs to disregard these facts.

2017 Helen Webberley was suspended by GMC as she prescribed cross sex hormones to children contrary to NHS guidelines:

"The investigation was launched after two GPs complained to the GMC about Dr Webberley's private clinic, which specialises in gender issues.

She told the BBC she had given cross-sex hormone treatment to one 12-year-old and three 15-year-olds, despite NHS guidelines that they be given at about 16 or over.

"There are many children under 16 who are desperate to start what they would consider their natural puberty earlier than that," Dr Webberley told BBC Wales"
www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-41213534

October 2018:
Helen Webberley was found guilty of criminal charges following prosecution by Health Inspectorate Wales:

"HIW has today successfully prosecuted Online GP Services Ltd and Dr Helen Webberley for illegally providing online healthcare services which require registration under the Care Standards Act 2000"
hiw.org.uk/news/onlinegpprosecution?lang=en

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3588654-dr-mike-webberley-suspended

DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 04/03/2020 23:46

Claims to be a 44yo female to male, DuLANG so prolly not AGP.

So either AAP or Swhittle style misogyny?

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 04/03/2020 23:49

R0wantrees

Thank you for the links.
Sometimes I forget and think I wish Rowan was back and you are!
It's really a good place when you are here.You're a Power House.
It's stange that someone will try to defend a doctor who has been prosecuted with criminal charges and say that they have been misunderstood.

FloralBunting · 05/03/2020 00:07

DuLANG, I wouldn't want to guess. According to the linguistic hoops required on FWR, according to their own claims, legitimately someone feminism is for, so I was happy to do some 'Feminism 101 - Gender is an oppressive lie' stuff, because I'm a fluffy bunny and contrary to certain quarters, we're not all-vipers, all-the-timeGrin

DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 05/03/2020 00:11

Encouraging paediatric transition (with unlicensed doctors!) is my instant shit list criteria.

Cw19752 · 05/03/2020 00:15

Well - I guess ignorance is bliss isn’t it ladies? ..

Keep typing away and copying and pasting if it makes you feel that much better. Keep bitching and whining about others and acting like a scene from mean girls. Keep on ganging up and bullying people from behind the comfort of your keyboard.

You have made it abundantly obvious that you have no interest in hearing anything other than negative comments which is actually quite sad.

Compassion costs nothing, understanding costs nothing - politeness costs nothing and yet it is something this little group is unable to give out.

Oh and thank you to whoever copied and pasted the meaning of gender dysphoria, I never knew what it was until you gave me your wonderful copied and pasted words of wisdom from the internet.

Silly me for trying to educate you on the inaccuracy of the British Press and internet. I mean it’s not like a trans person who uses Gender GP would have any more knowledge of this subject than the great elite who copy and paste things they see fit to try and prove themselves right, but refuse to acknowledge any actual facts given to them.

On that note - I saw this website and thought you all might like it. It’s on the internet so it must be true right? I copied and pasted the link especially for you , it took my tiny little trans mind a while to work out which button to press on my box with letters on it but I finally got there in the end - theflatearthsociety.org/home/

Did you know that Freddie Starr once ate someones hamster? 😮😮😮 Knock yourself out and look online - it was even in British press so it must be 100% accurate!!!

Laters bints

DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 05/03/2020 00:18

Narcissistic rage in real time.
Wild.

WeetabixBananaHipsterFFS · 05/03/2020 00:20

The skirt thing - well even in this day you don’t send your son to school in a skirt because it was and still is seen as a feminine item of clothing.

Not true. A boy at our primary school has been wearing ‘girls’’ clothes for a while, but afaiaa is not identifying as trans. Doesn’t seem to be causing any major issues (though it’s a school community likely to tend away from sexism and homophobia, so may not be representative).

Datun · 05/03/2020 00:22

Misogyny and huge narcissistic meltdown.

Should be taught in schools. Especially the knowledge of quite how little it takes to trigger.

Plus I think you called it right the first time DuLang.

Cw19752 · 05/03/2020 00:22

You really all are vile hateful specimens aren’t you.

WeetabixBananaHipsterFFS · 05/03/2020 00:23

Laters bints

Unusual yet, uh, cute Grin

Bye now.

Datun · 05/03/2020 00:23

I thought we were 'ladies'???

DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 05/03/2020 00:24

Yes, me too. What do they call this kind of behaviour over on the Farms again? Oh yeah

‘Chimping out’

MrsWooster · 05/03/2020 00:24

Well, Cw seems nice. Perhaps a result of the single counselling session they say they received as the psychological part of their transition.

DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 05/03/2020 00:25

Or the illegally prescribed hormones.

MrsWooster · 05/03/2020 00:25

Ah yes. These unregulated meds must wreak havoc

WeetabixBananaHipsterFFS · 05/03/2020 00:26

The modern ‘laters’ juxtaposed with something last heard uttered by Basil Fawlty...

DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 05/03/2020 00:28

Here’s something I posted earlier (in relation to the person who chimped out in the Guardian morning meeting). Seems relevant again somehow...

Jess’ actions in relation to the Suzanne Moore article put me in mind of this extract from a Quillette piece by Marcus Evans, former governor of the Tavistock:

Basic biological realities and differences between sexes can provoke intense feelings of exclusion in some members of the trans community. Every person is different, but some individuals seem to believe that they have been traumatically excluded from their rightful female gender, and so any attempt by natal women to exclude them is experienced as a psychological attack (as evidenced by their sometimes shockingly intense expressions of anger at biological women).

^I believe that this sensitivity to exclusion from female spaces is sometimes related to unconscious anxieties and grievances associated with traumatic separation from the primary carer. This helps explain why some members of the trans community act as if their psychological wellbeing hinges on their right to enter any female space whatsoever, even though biological women can feel this to be intrusive and threatening*.

It’s why the transactivists hate Mumsnet too. We just aren’t taking care of the poor, defenceless little darling’s psychological needs in the way that nice mummies should.

quillette.com/2020/01/17/why-i-resigned-from-tavistock-trans-identified-children-need-therapy-not-just-affirmation-and-drugs/

Datun · 05/03/2020 00:30

It’s why the transactivists hate Mumsnet too. We just aren’t taking care of the poor, defenceless little darling’s psychological needs in the way that nice mummies should.

Indeed. And why there is such support to keep the Webberleys and their fans away from our kids. All kids.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 05/03/2020 00:32

Cw. Did you got the screenshots you wanted.
You liar.
You have made it abundantly obvious that you have no interest in hearing anything other than negative comments which is actually quite sad.

I told you about my child, my 3 year old tried to understand it from your pov by can't. So please explain it without saying you are bitches and don't understand. I'm listening.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 05/03/2020 00:37

I mssed the you are vile bits!
I'm telling you Ro you are a power house!! I liked the part where the said about the copy and pasting Grin

DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 05/03/2020 00:39

Cw - the subject of this thread is Helen Webberley's suspension and criminal charges.

I checked whether posters on this thread were, as you say, misinformed. On this matter you are incorrect. There was a hearing recently (Jan 2020) and the suspension remains.

www.mpts-uk.org/hearings-and-decisions/interim-orders-tribunals/dr-helen-webberley

Fantastic news.

FloralBunting · 05/03/2020 00:41

Ah, and I was being all reasonable and nice. I bet everyone was wondering what was wrong with me.

See where being nice gets you, eh? I might as well be a sweary gobshite after all.