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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Isn't Helen Webberley still prevented from providing services in UK?

259 replies

LoveGrowsWhere · 06/08/2019 10:43

Because she's being quoted as an expert in this article.
inews.co.uk/news/puberty-blockers-transgender-rights-nhs-gender-clinic-uk-tavistock/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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TinselAngel · 06/03/2020 13:21

Sorry TinselAngel, you're quite right. I won't get sucked in again.

No need to apologise! I was too.

AnotherNightWatering · 06/03/2020 13:25

Sucked in or not, I've read the thread, and want to say thank you to the brilliant posters who respond so logically and clearly with women's concerns.

QuentinWinters · 06/03/2020 15:34

R0wan I'm a very long standing GC poster who totally shares your concerns re: self ID. I don't need to be directed to cases to be sure of my personal viewpoint.

For me, I DGAF if a TW wants to have a piss in the cubicle beside me, or use the gym changing room. As long as they arent doing it for sexual kicks.

There is no way to guarantee this if access to womens spaces is on the basis of identity not sex.

Anyway. No more derailing from me but I really don't need patronising for stating a personal view.

ThePurported · 06/03/2020 15:45

For me, I DGAF if a TW wants to have a piss in the cubicle beside me, or use the gym changing room. As long as they arent doing it for sexual kicks.

How do you enforce that in practice?
Dolatowski was just another transwoman using female toilets, until he sexually assaulted a 10 yo girl.

R0wantrees · 06/03/2020 15:49

Quentin
There was no intention to patronise.
Im sorry you felt that way.

There are significant Safeguarding issues raised by the assault of the two girls by Dolatowski.
My brother is a single parent with a daughter who is a similar age to the girls. They go out a great deal together.

Possibly like you, I would feel reasonably confident to ask a male to leave a female space if necessary. If it were on the basis of a serious Safeguarding concern I would hope that I would be able put aside fear of being reported for a 'hate crime'.

My neice however should not be required to ask adult males to leave female toilets, changing rooms etc whilst she is out with her Dad.
Nor should my elderly aunt.
No should my female friends recovering from male violence.

This is not how Safeguarding works
Girls & women should not be 'granted permission' to challenge males in female spaces.

R0wantrees · 06/03/2020 15:58

Dundee Courier:
(extract)
"The mum felt “very, very let down” and said: “I don’t have any confidence whatsoever that he will not go out and do something equally as bad or worse.”

The girl had been sledging when the assault occurred on March 4, last year, a month after Dolatowski had filmed a 12-year-old girl on the toilet in another supermarket in Dunfermline.

When she came out of her cubicle, Dolatowski shoved her back in and told her there was a man outside who would kill her mother.

The brave schoolgirl, however, punched Dolatowski in the face, stomach and groin and ran to her father and siblings waiting just outside the toilets.

Her mother said the girl was hysterical after the attack and continued to suffer flashbacks.

She said: “This is something that will remain with her for the rest of her life.

“He was stalking the toilets. He went there specifically to attack a child.

“We were so, so lucky that nothing worse happened. It was only her reaction that stopped that. It could have been a five-year-old child that wouldn’t have been able to fight back.” (continues)

Dolatowski admitted sexually assaulting the girl and following another girl into the toilets at Asda Halbeath, Dunfermline, on February 8, and trying to film her urinating by holding her mobile phone over the cubicle partition. (continues)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3496984-Article-in-Dundee-Courier-about-assault-of-10-year-old-girl-in-supermarket-toilets

The two girls were 10 & 12 years old.
Dolatowski, having being in care from a very young age, is extremely likely to have been affirmed as a transgirl/woman by social care & mental health professionals.

R0wantrees · 06/03/2020 16:05

following another girl into the toilets at Asda Halbeath, Dunfermline, on February 8, and trying to film her urinating by holding her mobile phone over the cubicle partition.

This is male-specific abusive voyeuristic behaviour.
Its a breach of women & girls right to privacy & dignity.
There are many reports & prosecutions of males using mobile phones & recording devices to film women or girls in intimate spaces.
See also filming underneath women/ girls skirts.

FlyingOink · 06/03/2020 16:44

Internalised misogyny and roid rage resurrect a thread which is then derailed by transwomansplaining.
You couldn't make it up.

R0wantrees · 06/03/2020 17:34

FlyingOink These seem to be some of Dr Helen & Dr Mike Webberley's loyal supporters/customers & very keen that we do not discuss the impact of suspended doctors running an unregulated online business, GenderGP which has relocated to Spain following successful prosecution in UK continuing to dispatch hormone therapy to children & Vulnerable Adults.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3598778-Dr-Helen-and-Dr-Mike-Webberley-matters-of-public-record

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