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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Shocking behaviour towards lesbians at Leeds 'pride' today

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MrsSnippyPants · 04/08/2019 16:41

twitter.com/LilyLilyMaynard/status/1158020993006411779?s=20

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Datun · 06/08/2019 15:07

Well, this is a very revealing set of questions, innit?

Isn't it just.

Especially why didn't the women back down when intimidated.

Wishihad · 06/08/2019 15:08

Funny how Early is leaving since its time up that she felt the protestors were wrong for shouting at the fetish float.

She tried to use that as an example of how the protestors were acting the like the Trans allies when they tried get the protestors removed.

Clearly Early does believe there is a place for people engaging the general public in their fetish play. If she is injecting to protestors saying there no place for them.

And dont forget, this is a video, that early claims the protestors edited to make themselves look better. They clearly arent ashamed of telling people with fetishes that they dont belong.

RosesAndRaindrops · 06/08/2019 15:08

Did you miss where it has apparently been chopped though to twist and change meaning and intentions?
I guess you didn't

MinnieTheSphinx · 06/08/2019 15:08

The racists and homophobes who openly smeared ethnic minorities and gay people as criminals and perverts in the 70s and 80s would be proud of this thread. Well done.

JackyHolyoake · 06/08/2019 15:09

Chopping to discredit and change meaning, twisting, gaslighting ....
that's what she means.

Ha ha! That was not my intent at all.

I think most of my women colleagues here know exactly what my meaning is here.

barelove · 06/08/2019 15:09

Gaslighting? What like when someone asks for evidence of acceptance of pedophiles within the LGBT movement and is then given that evidence but then say's 'where's the evidence' only to be given it again and again and again but keeps saying 'you can't give any evidence can you'? Hmm

2BthatUnnoticed · 06/08/2019 15:09

Roses spell out exactly what is different in Jacky’s copy and paste.

List is questions looks the same to me.

Roses does any of this give you pause re child safeguarding?

RosesAndRaindrops · 06/08/2019 15:10

The racists and homophobes who openly smeared ethnic minorities and gay people as criminals and perverts in the 70s and 80s would be proud of this thread. Well done.

Yep

2BthatUnnoticed · 06/08/2019 15:10

list of*

Wishihad · 06/08/2019 15:12

The racists and homophobes who openly smeared ethnic minorities and gay people as criminals and perverts in the 70s and 80s would be proud of this thread. Well done.

Bollocks.

I think alot of gay people will be concenr2d they are now being grouped in with fetishes.

Cascade220 · 06/08/2019 15:12

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Earlywalker · 06/08/2019 15:13

Before I go, I’m just going to put this here so that everyone can clearly see what I said and how Jacky tried to manipulate you into thinking what I said was different and changing the sentiment:

JACKY Meanwhile, none have still explained why they failed to acknowledge that those ideology advocates who staged such an aggressive confrontation toward the small group of women in Leeds could have chosen alternative behaviour

My response:

I’ve said several times jacky that it is their right to protest back.

Why did the lesbians choose to protest at pride?
Why didn’t they go elsewhere?
Why did they use a megaphone?
Why did they say to ‘get out of pride’?
Why are they speaking for lesbians?
Why do they have a banner about transgender ideology rather than just support themselves?
Why didn’t they back down when crowds formed?

Because it is their right to do what they please as long as it’s non violent. No one else’s decision

People are allowed to be angry, they can stand up for themselves and what they believe in.

Neither side were violent, they did not scream in each other’s faces or threaten one another in anyway. They protested. Yes there were far far more on the other side, but that’s something I assume the woman were expecting anyway given previous events so they obviously have the balls and bravery for it.

they were very clearly rhetorical questions in response to ‘why didn’t they do things differently’

If you can’t all see the manipulation then you have no hope.

barelove · 06/08/2019 15:14

The Lesbians who stood up for ethnic minorities and gay people in the 70s and 80s would be proud of this thread. Well done!

Now we're standing up for children too!

2BthatUnnoticed · 06/08/2019 15:15

I am an ethnic minority with a lesbian sister and gay cousins and I support the sentiment on this thread. Get over it.

Roses does anything on this thread give you pause re safeguarding or literally nothing? Or do you not want to answer?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 06/08/2019 15:17

The racists and homophobes who openly smeared ethnic minorities and gay people as criminals and perverts in the 70s and 80s would be proud of this thread. Well done.

Yeah, apart from the fact that were smearing pedophilia, like actual peadophiles rather than Gay or ethnic minorities.

But it's the same right?

barelove · 06/08/2019 15:18

If you can’t all see the manipulation then you have no hope

It's ok Early, we can all see the manipulation, but it's not from coming from Jacky

JackyHolyoake · 06/08/2019 15:18

If you can’t all see the manipulation then you have no hope.

Ha ha!

It was what about you and how you think that the list of questions revealed that was most important.

Most, if not all, of my women colleagues here know exactly what I meant by copying that list of questions.

RosesAndRaindrops · 06/08/2019 15:19

It's ok Early, we can all see the manipulation, but it's not from coming from Jacky

It's literally ON the thread.
Some of you will never see it though, and that's OK.
It's those who you (general you) some of you try to recruit to your cause via scaremongering and fear tactics that I stick around for.
It's completely toxic.

RosesAndRaindrops · 06/08/2019 15:20

Top bit should be bolded as quote, soz

BlackberryCitron · 06/08/2019 15:23

Roses, Earlywalker etc- In answer to your repeated hope that someone is reading and can see what is going on - yes, we are reading! And we can clearly what is going on no matter how much you try to obfuscate and muddy the waters.

I've been lurking and reading these threads for three or four years now. I just want to say THANK YOU to all the GC women who keep posting, chipping away, fact finding, revealing, responding so patiently and eloquently to questions from newbies and disingenuous attacks from those with an agenda.

Honestly, I admire your fortitude and resilience. Please keep going, as you say, "for the lurkers". It is working. It is worth it. I have spoken about these things to women in real life and more and more women I speak to know about it now and we are thinking about it, talking about it. Momentum is growing.

barelove · 06/08/2019 15:24

I have to get back to work now. I'm sure the next 100 odd posts will fly by and will no doubt be dominated by one poster despite them never actually getting round to answering 2b's pertinent question:

Roses does anything on this thread give you pause re safeguarding or literally nothing? Or do you not want to answer?

RosesAndRaindrops · 06/08/2019 15:25

It does work both ways though, if that works for you then fine - as I said, some won't see but that's fair enough.
Others do suddenly see exactly what's going on here.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 06/08/2019 15:26

Others do suddenly see exactly what's going on here.

Yes, they do.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 06/08/2019 15:26

Have not read whole thread. Started trying to make sense of what was happening earlier today. Went on Twitter to see if I could find any evidence that there were people wearing MAP t-shirts at Leeds Pride. Got derailed onto discovery that there are dozens and dozens of Twitter accounts openly stating they are MAP or NOMAP or MAP ally, often alongside fetishes like zoophilia, necrophilia (!), furry. Have reported upwards of a dozen of them to Twitter, for all the good it will do.

So still no wiser as to whether they were openly marching at Pride but my god they're out in the open on Twitter. Why is this tolerated? It's absolutely vile.

RosesAndRaindrops · 06/08/2019 15:27

Where have I said I'm not bothered about safeguarding? Of course I am.
It's the repeated saying things as fact when it turns out when questioned it's actually a might be that's the problem.

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