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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Sun admit the Ian Huntley isTrans story was made up

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FeministFrequencyFan · 11/02/2019 14:18

twitter.com/theJeremyVine/status/1094931865318948864

A timely, if incredibly worrying reminder, that we should view all stories about minorities from our press with extreme skepticism. I hope this is the only fabricated inflammatory anti-trans story our press has published, it would be awful if the debate regarding trans rights was being used as cover by bigots to spread anti-trans hatred.

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FloralBunting · 11/02/2019 14:23

Yes, wouldn't it? Terribly embarrassing for the LibDems and others who so staunchly defended even the merest suggestion that Huntley should get whatever he wants if he uses the magic pronoun wand, eh? I mean, rapist hill is still a thing AWAs stand on, isn't it?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 11/02/2019 14:25

Makes all those defending him look a bit silly doesn't it.

Sarahconnor1 · 11/02/2019 14:26

I said on a previous thread that my issue wasn't whether the Huntley story was true or not, that became something of a side issue.

My concern was the length some people were going to to defend huntley, demand we all use correct pronouns etc etc. It was astonishing. Rapist hill indeed.

QuietContraryMary · 11/02/2019 14:27

That's not the Sun, it's the 'Daily Star Stunday' relating to an article they published in 2018.

And there is a signed article by 'Ian Lian Huntley' from 2017

www.thesun.co.uk/news/2866040/child-killer-ian-huntley-tells-lags-to-call-him-female-version-of-his-name-ian-as-make-up-frankland-prison/

I am reassured you are convinced the word of Ian Huntley is reliable and none of this ever happened, as it never does.

Just like Karen White didn't rape women in prison either.

None of this happens, does it.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 11/02/2019 14:27

All those apologists who bent over backwards and used "she" are now guilty of misgendering poor Ian.

What happens now?

QuietContraryMary · 11/02/2019 14:29

This didn't happen. All made up.

The Sun admit the Ian Huntley isTrans story was made up
The Sun admit the Ian Huntley isTrans story was made up
TheShiteRunner · 11/02/2019 14:29

This is shocking. This story has been repeated over and over again as some kind of political grenade.
I am on the fence with the whole trans debate- I am undecided. I wish the press would report fairly and accurately so that the public can make informed decisions though.

Barracker · 11/02/2019 14:30

Actually I thought it wasn't so much that they have made it up, as much as Huntley, a pathologically violent man who lied extremely convincingly on National Television about murdering two little girls, has denied it. They've printed his denial.

Of course its possible that he's much more truthful these days and we should believe his every word now. Perhaps he doesn't lie any more.

I'll remain sceptical though.

As to whether he has or hasn't ever claimed to be transgender, has yet to be established.
We do know that there are other male rapists and murderers who have made that claim, and been accorded validation and transfer to the female estate. Huntley was never the first and will not be the last.

Violent male prisoners have been known to claim transgender status in prison. This is indisputable fact. Huntley is a drop in the ocean.

QuietContraryMary · 11/02/2019 14:30

"This is shocking. This story has been repeated over and over again as some kind of political grenade. "

What's shocking? There's literally his signature in the name of Lian.

Why are we supposed to believe that NONE of this happened.

He's literally a lying fucking psychopath.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 11/02/2019 14:30

Only the name and the wig was wrong, surely.

MillytantForceit · 11/02/2019 14:32

Not like Ian Huntley to make up a story

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 11/02/2019 14:33

He's such a trustworthy well respected source.

Oxytocindeficient · 11/02/2019 14:36

He's literally a lying fucking psychopath.

Let’s remember this important fact, and that being gender critical isn’t about individual transpeople.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 11/02/2019 14:38

It's not even The Sun "admitting" it....

FloralBunting · 11/02/2019 14:39

Ian Huntley is not the story and never was.

The fact that his possible claim to be a woman was championed by lots of activists and other assorted types is the story. What does it tell you if someone can potentially plant a story about a contemptible person claiming 'trans rights' and manage to get a portion of people to go along with it as a positive idea?

What else might that kind of manipulation be useful for? Good grief. Is the 'woke' thing ironic? Is it meant to signal someone so bloody gullible and biddable they might as well be sleep walking?

Popchyk · 11/02/2019 14:42

The Sun did not say it made the story up.

It wasn't even The Sun. It was the Daily Star on Sunday. So much for the OP's call for accurate reporting.

And they reported that Ian Huntley has stated that aspects of the original story did not take place.

The Daily Star on Sunday did not apologise or assert that the original story was untrue.

RockyFlintstone · 11/02/2019 14:42

I don't understand this?

Ian Huntley would like to make it clear

Would he now?

This is a man who stood there and lied on national telly in the most horrific way possible, after carrying out the most horrific of crimes.

Why would anyone care or believe what 'Ian Huntley wants to make clear'?

And as others have said, the point here isn't even if it's true or not. It's that the trans cult is so deeply entrenched in some places that people would believe that Huntley is a woman just on his say so, and even believe that he should be in a female prison, because 'acceptance without exception' and anything less would be 'transphobic'.

frazzled1 · 11/02/2019 14:42

Certainly makes Twitter look silly for banning those referring to this monster as a 'he'.

NottonightJosepheen · 11/02/2019 14:44

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CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 11/02/2019 14:51

So the Star got her name wrong, it's Lian not Nichola, but what does it have to do with the sun?

OvaHere · 11/02/2019 14:52

As previous posters have said who knows what is true or not with a lying sociopath. It's just as likely that he tried it on, realised he wasn't going to get any cookies for it and sacked it off as bad job.

Really anyone defending the notion that Huntley was anything but a male, murdering scumbag needs to have a word with themselves.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 11/02/2019 14:54

anyone defending the notion that Huntley was anything but a male, murdering scumbag needs to have a word with themselves.

What about acceptance without exception?

As soon as the story was printed he should have been dragged from his cell and put in a woman's prison, as the Linden's wanted, his views had nothing to do with it.

andyoldlabour · 11/02/2019 14:55

Well, this article was from the Telegraph in 2017, is that "fake news" and if so are they going to apologise?

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/15/call-lian-child-killer-ian-huntley-has-told-inmates-call-feminine/

Here again in the Guardian in 2017.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/18/identity-issue-our-age-talk-more-honestly-trans-women

I remember Madigan on their twitter feed trying to say the Karen White stories were "fake news", and couldn't believe the depths which some people would go to in order to defend murderers and rapists.

TheShiteRunner · 11/02/2019 15:00

So hang on... This correction is in itself misleading, because Huntley is in fact trans and is/wants to be in a women's prison?
Bloody hell. I'd LOVE to be able to form an INFORMED opinion on the trans debate, but the bare facts are nowhere to be seen, or are manipulated to suit a certain agenda.

redandyellowandpinkandgreen99 · 11/02/2019 15:00

LOL is anyone really surprised?!

Fucking pondscum Huntley is!