Posie, please stop

[Sunshineofleith]

Beating yourself up. You, Venice and Julia have conquered the market. No other ‘feminist’ has managed this. How amazing are you all. Posie, you have managed so much by presenting a truth that a women is an adult human female that is scientifically proven has scared everyone. How amazing are you.
I await my t shirt with this fact. I will not be able to wear it as I have a child/teen, nearly an adult who thinks they are female. Your t shirt will go into a drawer but I know it’s there reminding me, when I am questioning myself for not affirming my child’s thought, that my son can not be female.
Keep up your fight. Stop listening to others who are jealous of your basic campaign and who try to intellectualise it with academic talk, when the simple truth gets the job done.
Stand up for us parents. No one else is. Stand up for our daughters and for our sons too. The parents voice needs heard. Focus on this. It does not matter to parents where you are aligned politically. But you know this. Keep doing what you are doing and fight for me because I’m not brave enough to stand up

And peachy yogurt

Sheila Jeffreys, Gallus Mag (Gender Trender), Cathy Brennan....

Kristina has posted the statement made on Facebook on twitter for anyone interested (it’s not locked or private)

mobile.twitter.com/KJ_Harrison/status/1095721572860657665

Trying to remain Switzerland so I’ll just say I stand with the breakfast that should not be named.

And all you amazing mumsnetters who keep it all ticking along and not claiming superiority

Janice Turner, Glinner, Jonathon Best, the awesome detransistioners and me ofcourse. We are all doing our bit. It’s not a one band show.

Everyone is doing the best they can. Mistakes and regrets happen as this is a new phenomenon. We are all finding our feet here and as debate is allowed views do change. I’ve gone from empathising with someone with dysphoria and then to wtf as it hit my home and I realised that the person with dysphoria is suffering from some form of conflict which needs addressed not affirmed. The person with dysphoria is in pain but the solution is not necessarily to go down the medical pathway. Listening to the those who realised they were no longer trans just reinforces my belief that we, as a society, need to challenge the construct more and more.

Thank you for saying this

I've been shocked and disgusted by how destructive and jealous so many people have been about Posie.

I don't agree with everything she says. But she has the right to say it and I agree even less, with people saying she believes certain things which are their own projections. Lunatics claiming she's a white nationalist and a nazi and all sorts of other overwrought rubbish.

It makes us look as delusional and mad as transactivists. I wish women would stop this.

Thank you Posie for all you've done. And Venice, who is being subjected to almost as much crap. What you 2 and Julia did in the States was brilliant.

To return briefly to the "getting into bed with the right wing" argument...

In my home town, we have a large grooming gang who prey on vulnerable teenage girls. This has been going on for about 20 years and is still happening.

The town is a Labour stronghold and has been for the past twenty years. Whenever this issue is raised, people are called "racist", "fascist", and so forth. People have been removed from council meetings for not saying the right thing on this issue.

The parents got desperate, so they turned to the only party that would listen and debate this issue: UKIP. Now, of course, the parents look racist, which they aren't.

At the last few elections, UKIP have got bigger and bigger. Labour are still in power, but they know that UKIP is a threat.

The thing is, Labour could easily get most of these voters back if they simply responded to grooming gangs more logically and fairly. I think they will get tougher on this issue before the next election as a result.

My point is: getting into bed with the right wing was what caused the left wing to wake up.

The escalating nastiness was always inevitable. It means that our voices are starting to be heard, and that our arguments are having an impact.

Bullying is the last resort of someone who does not have logical case.

And really interesting how much is focussed on the women who have been brave enough to raise their heads above the parapet. James Kirkuk appears to have received nothing like the levels of abuse that Janice Turner did, despite reporting on any of the same issues.Go figure.

And Posie, if you are reading. Think of the children and their terrified families. Don’t beat yourself up. Carry on doing what you are doing. It’s mad. We need your version of sanity.