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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posie, please stop

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Sunshineofleith · 08/02/2019 01:27

Beating yourself up. You, Venice and Julia have conquered the market. No other ‘feminist’ has managed this. How amazing are you all. Posie, you have managed so much by presenting a truth that a women is an adult human female that is scientifically proven has scared everyone. How amazing are you.
I await my t shirt with this fact. I will not be able to wear it as I have a child/teen, nearly an adult who thinks they are female. Your t shirt will go into a drawer but I know it’s there reminding me, when I am questioning myself for not affirming my child’s thought, that my son can not be female.
Keep up your fight. Stop listening to others who are jealous of your basic campaign and who try to intellectualise it with academic talk, when the simple truth gets the job done.
Stand up for us parents. No one else is. Stand up for our daughters and for our sons too. The parents voice needs heard. Focus on this. It does not matter to parents where you are aligned politically. But you know this. Keep doing what you are doing and fight for me because I’m not brave enough to stand up

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Coyoacan · 12/02/2019 15:14

she doesn’t have time to do background checks on the organisers/attendees/random people who have wandered in to listen or shelter from the rain

Yeap, some people have staff who can cover most of that and I don't know about the UK, but here in Mexico academics have staff and students who can do that sort of work. Pretty hard to cover as a one-woman show.

GeorgeFayne · 12/02/2019 15:32

Pumyin
As an American woman who has been increasingly horrified by the TRA movement, but has felt powerless and silenced, your sister provided inspiration and hope for me. She is courageous and truly a champion for women and children.

As a result of her actions, I have started to find ways to speak out and connect. She is making a tremendous difference, and we WE NEED HER. Please let her know how much she is appreciated!

Sunshineofleith · 14/02/2019 00:46

What a shower of shites
I have just gone onto Posie’s Facebook page and saw the private statement from Kristina Harrison.
It is unbelievable. Please read it.
This is why Posie’s campaign using adult human female is now being shit on. The trans woman is not happy because Posie is presenting a truth so this person is using the male privilege to barter. It’s me or her. Guess what. These feminists have bowed to the mighty male. In my opinion, this is why the followers have ganged up on Posie as they can’t seriously say a woman is an adult human female for fear of offending. These followers have tried to sabotage Posie’a campaign as they don’t want to offend a natal man. Feminists my arse.

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Sunshineofleith · 14/02/2019 00:52

Pumyin
I know how much the USA are delighted with Posie, Julia and Venice. They have enabled conversations to take place. If Posie, Venice and Julia were not there, the amazing talk would have not have been heard. They have taken the cause internationally and this is amazing. Our infighting needs to stop and think about this achievement. Was this not the aim?

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terfing · 14/02/2019 00:58

Can you please post the statement here?

Sunshineofleith · 14/02/2019 01:02

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Sunshineofleith · 14/02/2019 01:06

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BoreOfWhabylon · 14/02/2019 01:09

I don't do facebook - can someone tell me what KH has said please?

And @Pumyin - I'm sick of it too Flowers

BoreOfWhabylon · 14/02/2019 01:09

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Sunshineofleith · 14/02/2019 01:12

The paragraph about Posie, Julia and Venice not listening to those who are leading the cause is quite telling also. My way or no way.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 14/02/2019 01:16

I think I'm not going to comment on Kristina's piece.

I'd probably get banned from MN.

Sunshineofleith · 14/02/2019 01:19

Indeed. I see it as a malicious attempt at bringinging Adult human female down. If we don’t have this what do we have??

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BlackShutters · 14/02/2019 01:21

*Pumyin
As an American woman who has been increasingly horrified by the TRA movement, but has felt powerless and silenced, your sister provided inspiration and hope for me. She is courageous and truly a champion for women and children.

As a result of her actions, I have started to find ways to speak out and connect. She is making a tremendous difference, and we WE NEED HER. Please let her know how much she is appreciated!*
Seconded!

Sunshineofleith · 14/02/2019 01:23

Please remember I am a parent of a child who is identifying as female. I’m not in this to fight feminist cat fights. I’m here to protect my child and expose the fantasy. A woman is an adult human female. Full stop. I want reality to prevail.

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pachyderm · 14/02/2019 08:01

I've seen Kristina in real life, and heard Kristina speaking. I'd get banned if I said what I wanted to say.

I stand with Julia, Venice and Posie.

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 14/02/2019 08:10

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averylongtimeago · 14/02/2019 09:32

Posie's campaign is great. Adult human female cuts right to the heart of the issue.

There is a place for serious intellectual discussions over the meaning of feminism- 2nd wave/3rd wave/ intersectional whatever. But frankly most people's eyes glaze over and they stop listening.

The things that have engaged most people in "real life" have been ManFriday, Posie, the Girl Guiding debate, the leafleting around the GRC and more recently the ReSisters campaign.

So, stick to what works. Oh, and don't engage in pointless twitter spats, they don't do any good.

Melroses · 14/02/2019 09:54

I’m here to protect my child and expose the fantasy. A woman is an adult human female. Full stop. I want reality to prevail.

Got you. My DC are in their mid 20s now. They have been fed this stuff at uni. I know several of their peers who are suffering MH problems. It is not a good time for them, work and careerwise. They have real life problems and priorities to contend with but yet they believe this guff. It is always the vulnerable that are preyed on. Posie cuts through this, no whataboutery, and a lot of people connect.

WeRiseUp · 14/02/2019 10:03

The comment that springs to my mind is ODFOD.

How dare this male person try to draw a dividing line through our movement.

Angry
LangCleg · 14/02/2019 10:08

TS people should not be inserting themselves into intra-feminist disputes. It's not a good look, whatever the position taken.

Did it not occur to Kristina that this intervention provided a QED for the opposing viewpoint? What a ruddy great own goal. Some self reflection urgently required, methinks.

I am deeply unimpressed even from here in Switzerland.

RedemptiveCrocodile · 14/02/2019 10:14

I haven't read the KH comment, but I support Posie, Venice and Julia.

Anyone who is trying to split this movement, create in-fighting and ill-feeling is not an ally.

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 14/02/2019 10:17

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ActualWoman · 14/02/2019 10:28

There are people who have serious concerns about PP using her Facebook profile to post conspiracy theories on for example Syria and the yellow vests which have nothing to do with 'adult human female'. But maybe women should just learn to shut up.

LangCleg · 14/02/2019 10:30

WTAF has that got to do with anything? There are women here who have serious concerns about my bloody breakfast of choice, FFS. They don't try to kick me out of feminism for it nor do they cheerlead non-women doing the same thing.

JFC.

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