Posie, please stop

[Sunshineofleith]

Beating yourself up. You, Venice and Julia have conquered the market. No other ‘feminist’ has managed this. How amazing are you all. Posie, you have managed so much by presenting a truth that a women is an adult human female that is scientifically proven has scared everyone. How amazing are you.
I await my t shirt with this fact. I will not be able to wear it as I have a child/teen, nearly an adult who thinks they are female. Your t shirt will go into a drawer but I know it’s there reminding me, when I am questioning myself for not affirming my child’s thought, that my son can not be female.
Keep up your fight. Stop listening to others who are jealous of your basic campaign and who try to intellectualise it with academic talk, when the simple truth gets the job done.
Stand up for us parents. No one else is. Stand up for our daughters and for our sons too. The parents voice needs heard. Focus on this. It does not matter to parents where you are aligned politically. But you know this. Keep doing what you are doing and fight for me because I’m not brave enough to stand up

I'm also very grateful to Posie and anyone placing themselves in the firing line. They're helping to give a voice to parents that aren't automatically affirming their childs transgender identity.

Sunshine, I'd certainly call you brave.

And agree with PPs, we need all these women!

Yes you're brave Sunshine - your T-shirt may still be in a drawer (for now) but you started this thread!

I never thought of myself as brave but I know it takes courage to support a child who is distressed yet not colluding with their thoughts. Shame our therapists aren’t practicing what they preach when dealing with other mental health issues like anorexia, like schizophrenia, like addictions etc. It must be the only distorted thinking process that demands mutilation and life long medication on an otherwise healthy body. The body in question is not diseased. It is healthy. It is the mind that needs the help. It is so obvious and basic. Just like the definition of woman but the activist don’t want these facts getting heard. This is why Posie scares them. It is impossible to argue rationally. The Transvactivist are trying to by saying sex is a construct. This is why Posie’s campaign to raise the awareness of adult human female is creating a stir. Now that it has crossed the pond and also into Europe, it has allowed more people to question. It is no longer contained. I have interacted with those parents Posie is talking about and many hundred others. They all say the same story. This is real. It is happening and until now they could not be heard.

It's like the suffragists, who kept to political discourse and suffragetes, who took direct action.
You need both for change I think.

We are at war, and our children are the cannon fodder. We must fight the gender cult, not each other. Anyone who doesn't understand this needs to rethink their behaviour.

Rehashed anti gay speak straight out of the 70's

Bore off.

There are a lot of feminists who have been plugging away about this laaaaangtime.

Posie is so brilliant. She can't be categorised and she happens to have gavitated to radical feminism/ists (because she is interested in unflinching truthfulness and it's the inevitable progression from cutting the crap).

I am curious to know how several feminists (some a bit late to the party, I might add) have all spontaneously decided to turn on Posie at the same time - for some really old news that they never commented on before as far as i'm aware- just as she was making huge waves... Even Resisters acting like their actions she funded had nothing to do with her.

Who was the stirrer? Why we're they all such spineless, easily-manipulated fuckwits?

It all seems a bit fishy to me. I've not seen anyone come forward and defend it, but I wish they would. I am baffled.

I'm not good at interpreting some of the more oblique messages on various SM platforms

Me neither and I have nothing against any of the other feminists involved but I can't help but have the utmost respect for PP. Just look at the empathy, passion and sincerity she demonstrates in this video.

www.facebook.com/theposieparker/videos/2369584096494890/

Posie and others are raising the popular awareness needed to in turn create the space for lawmakers to be forced listen to "experts" and "academics".

One can't succeed without the other.

This is exactly what I think. I think different people have their own skills and strong points and each woman who has contributed to this becoming mainstream news and created awareness should be celebrated.

I think the women on here who have been writing about it for years, the women donating, the women speaking to friends and family, giving out leaflets, writing letters are all contributing.

Posie and every other figurehead of this (Bindell, Stock, Freeman, Murphy et al.) are brave to speak out and act the way they have and I appreciate them all for their differing contributions.

The anti-Posie Collective have stooped to baseless smears.

(Background: a man asked PP for a selfie at a meeting in the USA. Turns out that he's a holocaust denier. PP didn't know who he was and neither did anyone else at the meeting.)

twitter.com/KJ_Harrison/status/1094803152212320258

They really need to button it because they are going about 'distancing themselves' from PP the wrong way. I'd prefer to see critics debate her views, or critique her methods but spurious allegations of being friends with a holocaust denier is over-the-top.

They really need to button it because they are going about 'distancing themselves' from PP the wrong way. I'd prefer to see critics debate her views, or critique her methods but spurious allegations of being friends with a holocaust denier is over-the-top.

Completely agree. They're not covering themselves in glory with this.

If you haven’t seen Posie’s presentation to Oslo, it’s on her FB page. I think it’s her most impressive and compelling appearance to date.

She’s doing great work. I watched it with my 14 year-old DD who was open-mouthed.

Yes. Now I realise Kristina Harrison is not an ally of women.

Nah. That random man is actually a well-known politician who is the leader of the political party who organised the conference.

I don't think there's any way Posie wouldn't know who he was, and if she'd done her homework on Allianse (the political party involved) she would surely have declined this one.

There's the conservative right, who you may not agree with on most issues but can be on-point on others, and there's far-right white supremist modern nazis. This bunch are very much in the second category, as anyone who spends 5 minutes on google can discover.

Can't help wondering what on earth she was thinking accepting this invitation.

Why would far right groups platform the 'Women With Vaginas' song?

As I recall, it was a far left conference.

And it was actually Rosa Freedman who was so upset about the picture, and the background of the chap concerned.

I don't think there's any way Posie wouldn't know who he was

Since when is she some kind of expert on Norwegian politics?

Looks like Rosa's twitter account is down now. Hmmm.

Rosa was just on the other thread and said she is having a break.

Rosa Freedman has left Twitter but if I remember correctly, she herself confirmed that the conference was organised by the far left. The last time I looked at her Twitter feed, she had switched to arguing that it was the wrong kind of left.

I have no personal knowledge of Posie Parker or Rosa Freedman or Venice Allen or any of the academics mentioned.
But I'm fucking sick to death of the endless rehashing of what was meant by certain statements and actions.
They are all women and are all fighting for Female sex based rights to be respected and not to be thrown away.
I have great respect for anyone who has stuck their head above the parapet and has taken the shit that has been dished out.

To be fair, Rosa is Jewish, so you can understand her sentiments about holocaust denial. Plus PP does seem to keep finding herself in these situations, but I guess she will always have people who are going to explain it away....

"That random man is actually a well-known politician who is the leader of the political party who organised the conference. "

Bollocks.

As is clearly visible in the photos being circulated, it is the 'Mot Dag Konferanse' steigan.no

A 5 second Google search shows:

"Pål Steigan is a Norwegian communist and former leader of the Maoist Workers' Communist Party, AKP, from 1975 to 1984, and jointly leader of the Red Electoral Alliance until 1979."

The full agenda of the conference is here

<a class="break-all" href="https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=no&u=steigan.no/tag/mot-dag/&prev=search" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=no&u=steigan.no/tag/mot-dag/&prev=search

The agenda is Syria, Venezuela, war, and gender. Not any indication whatsoever that there would be any random Nazis there.

Anyone who claims that Posie should somehow know that attending a left-wing conference would result in selfies with obscure Norwegian Nazis is either stupid or dishonest. Or both.