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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans councillor leaves roles after 'threats to life'

375 replies

Bespin · 11/08/2018 05:09

I'm not one for posting threads on here but I feel this is quite a sad position for this person and shows how hard it is to maintain a professional stance on this when you are receiving threats and abuse at the levels that are currently happening on the Internet, in no way am I saying this is gender critical people. But this debate as now got to such a level that it is starting to cost people there livelihoods on both sides of this so called debate.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-scotland-tayside-central-45151228

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Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 11/08/2018 13:01

Ha,ha, his favourite comment was "there an ideot".

Gregor, love, that was from the trans person who was actually trying to defend you!

NothingOnTellyAgain · 11/08/2018 13:02

Not read the fucking thread.

Cliked the link and see a bearded "masculine presenting" person called Gregor.

They prefer "they" pronouns" and are part of the trans umbrella.

However, I sincerely doubt that Gregor has been getting the type of abuse - let's face it from men - that a trans woman would get. I mean, come on.

Maybe there is another reason he has been getting abuse. Which I don't approve of but then I'm not into threatening people with rape, bombs, death under any circs.

TheCountryGirl · 11/08/2018 13:02

This thing is absolutely grotesque. I just hope the savage lump keeps away from women and girls and out of our spaces. With hatred like his, he is dangerous.

R0wantrees · 11/08/2018 13:02

She said she left because her battery was running out.

TheBatPig · 11/08/2018 13:03

His comprehension is clearly somewhat lacking if those tweets are all they took away from this thread. And hasn't seemed to understand that the person who started the thread was initially on side and only later declared them an "ideot"

R0wantrees · 11/08/2018 13:04

Comments about freemason membership and meaning of 'roaster' both challenged on thread.

IncrediblySturdyPyjamas · 11/08/2018 13:05
Sarahconnor1 · 11/08/2018 13:05

Absolute gold.

Gregor also seems to have confused a post about Edward lord to be about him.

To be fair I understand how the confusion could arise Grin

R0wantrees · 11/08/2018 13:05

Why let the truth get in the way of a good story though?

VickyEadie · 11/08/2018 13:05

Gregor didn't read the thread carefully enough to see that the person with dodgy spelling ("there an ideot") is, in fact, Gregor's only supporter on the entire thread.

Gregor needs to read more carefully and not alienate Gregor's few friends. Bespin (Gregor's only friend and the person who wrote "there an ideot") is very pro-trans and started the thread to defend Gregor. It seems that Bespin wasn't aware of the foul abuse Gregor originally tweeted that got Gregor into this mess in the first place, however.

TheCountryGirl · 11/08/2018 13:06

Thick as mince.

R0wantrees · 11/08/2018 13:07

Sarahconnor1

Someone did comment that Gregor Murray was a Freemason and I asked if they were sure.

Sarahconnor1 · 11/08/2018 13:10

R0wantrees

Ah i missed that.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 11/08/2018 13:10

I am, however, devastated to learn that the wellies didn't survive camp.

Without sparkly waterproof footwear, how will people know Gregor is non - binary?

IncrediblySturdyPyjamas · 11/08/2018 13:14

Without sparkly waterproof footwear, how will people know Gregor is non - binary?

Because he will keep banging on about how he is a non-binary victim of evil TERFs pulling him up on calling women Cunts?

TimeLady · 11/08/2018 13:15

My granddaughter has sparkly wellies. She's five.

R0wantrees · 11/08/2018 13:22

Bespin has discussed her dyslexia:

"You can always tell on here when you are being policed by people who do not like. What you say as they will be critical of your gammer or spelling as if that undermines your points. This is a soft type of bullying and usually means that they have nothing to say against your points but still wish to attack you for saying it. It as the effect of silancing people who's first language is not English and people like myslef who are dyslexic from participating in any form of debate."

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3277137-How-will-we-know-if-we-have-lost-good-women?pg=6

LangCleg · 11/08/2018 13:23

Poor Bespin. Starts a thread sympathising with Saint Gregor of the Most Oppressed (Sparkly Wellies Chapter) and gets monstered for it on the Twatter.

TimeLady · 11/08/2018 13:25

Still whining on Reddit

www.reddit.com/user/grogipher

Aw, bless. Maybe its foot-in-mouth disease.

Rosemary46 · 11/08/2018 13:27

This person’s behaviour is a disgrace to their party and to their city. Everyone will be relieved that they have resigned.

FloralBunting · 11/08/2018 13:31

What we have here is an example of the biggest problem TRAs have.

The biggest plank of their argument is they are the most oppressed evar (tm) because of all the death threats and evil women being evil to them.

And The Very Best Example the TRAs can come up with is this nasty specimen who is demonstrably, publicly, deeply abusive, misogynistic and self-regarding.

It is a completely self-defeating methodology.

FloralBunting · 11/08/2018 13:33

Oh, and bespin, while still understanding your frustration and wish to have this all over and done with, even you must surely be tentatively approaching the realization that these people are not your allies?

BarbieInTheDreamHouse · 11/08/2018 13:35

I've name changed for this - penguin bollards, Mexican house thief, etc but I know Gregor personally. We have huge differences in politics but I think this thread is making them out to be something they are not.

Gregor spends hours and hours of their personal time every week/month/year genuinely helping people. Much more than I do.

Feel free to disagree with what Gregor says, they quite clearly stated they regrets their reactions and language and that the come back from this is having an impact on their health. It's quite difficult watching you all rip someone to bits who does so much for others as well.

terryleather · 11/08/2018 13:37

Waves to Gregor, who is currently reading this, it seems.

Still whining on Reddit

Finds himself absolutely fascinating doesn't he.

Tiresome misogynist narc is tiresome. News at 11.

FloralBunting · 11/08/2018 13:40

Barbie, that's the difficulty of a man who acts on his social conscience but does nothing to reign in his simmering hatred of women.

Everyone is a mixture of good and bad. But the good someone does in no way excuses things they do which are utterly reprehensible.