Trans councillor leaves roles after 'threats to life'

[Bespin]

I'm not one for posting threads on here but I feel this is quite a sad position for this person and shows how hard it is to maintain a professional stance on this when you are receiving threats and abuse at the levels that are currently happening on the Internet, in no way am I saying this is gender critical people. But this debate as now got to such a level that it is starting to cost people there livelihoods on both sides of this so called debate.


www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-scotland-tayside-central-45151228

[howmanybiscuits]

The SNP should have chucked him out. Disgraceful.

[Orwellianmince]

Never heard of Gregor Fisher Murray or read this thread till I saw they (singular) were having a rant (a tirade actually) at the respected Joan McAlpine. Has my name is not Simon ever achieved anything other than a reputation for making misogynistic online comments towards a series of women over the years. They (singular) are still at it-a "Cooncillor" makin stuff up online to attack an MSP. Just looks like "they" (singular) feel threatened by her/strong lassies (& some lads I see) who aren't putting up with their shxxx any more.
Says they (singular) want to leave the SNP Party. Naebodies stoppin ye.

[Alicethroughtheblackmirror]

There is a stream of expletives running through my head...

He's an utter, utter, disgrace! How dare he compare women's groups and feminists to violent racists (mainly men, I think you'll find).

The "non-binary" goons rally are the most regressive and sexist bunch. Not being a man (despite all appearance to the contrary) gives misogynist Gregor the right to abuse women and make libellous comments about women's rights groups. Not being a women (despite all appearance to the contrary) gives surrendered little Molly double-barrelled (of the Greens) the opportunity to be good little anti-feminist white still pretending to be "woke".

[Procrastinator1]

Disgraceful tweet from Mr Murray on WPUK He is still a SNP councillor
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Hugely disappointed to see an MP I have a huge amount of love and respect for, @CarolineLucas, agree to meet with a anti-trans Hate Group.

I somehow feel as though if she met with the KKK, or Westbro Baptist Church or something, the comments would be different.



//twitter.com/grogipher/status/1028698823584047104

[Alicethroughtheblackmirror]

forwomen.scot/12/08/2018/response-to-gregor-fisher-murrays-resignation-as-childrens-convenor/

[loveyouradvice]

How How How is someone male who "performs maleness" remotely trans? The only thing he seems to have done is ask for his pronouns to be changed.....

Really don't get it on any level....

And I AM GETTING SO FED UP OF on both sides of this so called debate.... to me that is the whole point, only ONE side is up for debate - the other is so clearly NoDebate.....

[Wanderabout]

Also does it get him into women's changing rooms if he fancies it?

[Alicethroughtheblackmirror]

The fact that Murray isn't a satirical creation is really, really depressing...

[paintedwingsandgiantrings]

Murray, btw, was born male. He dresses like a bloke. Calls himself a bloke's name.

But he identifies as "non-binary" which handily earns him the title of trans and - voila! Major organisations like the BBC collude in the idea he can do no wrong, even when forced to resign for publicly calling women cunts.

[heresyandwitchcraft]

Thanks for reminding me of this case. I love how James Kirkup covered it.

[paintedwingsandgiantrings]

Murray was asked to stand down. He reframed it as him having to leave because of death threats.

It's nonsense, a story in which he's actually the perpetrator, spun into a story where he's the victim by a friendly reporter at the BBC.

Then people say "oh it's two sides fighting each other".

No. It's a load of blokes acting like abusive, narcissistic misogynists and the women who can see this is what they're doing, calling them out.

The BBC should be utterly ashamed of its role in this.

[nauticant]

Nearly 400 posts in I still haven't seen these threats that caused Murray to resign from the committee post. Stuff can be deleted from social media but for stuff that is apparently so serious, people do grab screen shots. I would have expected to see these by now.

Does anyone actually engage with Murray on twitter when it's a stream of me-me-me-me self replying?

[NothingOnTellyAgain]

It's very male to spit the word cunt as an insult, isn't it.

Just saying.

So many blokes have issues around women and our sexuality, bodies, for sure.

[Alicethroughtheblackmirror]

Oh wow! Sparkles on converse trainers. That totally trumps chromosomes every time!

[NothingOnTellyAgain]

Shit missed a pronoun.
What a cunt, eh.

[NothingOnTellyAgain]

Maybe he's already called women on here cunts?

Is it lesbians specifically xe likes to call cunts or any women who disagree with them?

[NothingOnTellyAgain]

Isn't xe going to call women who post on mumsnet cunts then?

Seems a bit odd.

[littlbrowndog]

Gawd the Gregor such a one trick pony

Blah me blah me blah me

[SunsetBeetch]

😁 Awww Gregor you're loving the attention really aren't you?

[SunsetBeetch]

What a ridiculous individual.

(Btw, the incel.term is 'roastie' not roaster.)

[thebewilderness]

All of those who prefer the rules of misogyny to the rule of law need to step down from representational positions because they have clearly proven themselves not fit for purpose.

[thebewilderness]

I do not think anyone is surprised that a serial verbal abuser of women who has been given many chances to moderate their conduct is now blaming women for objecting to their behavior.
In the case of Mumsnet the fact that women are discussing this person's inappropriate behavior seems to be offending this person.

[Mamaryllis]

Just to double check - I once owned gold shoes (they were uniform - I had to - in fact I spray painted them because the only ACTUAL gold shoes on offer were fecking ghastly) but my footwear of choice has always been boots (dm, other dm like offers, standard military issue). I don’t really do nail polish (it always makes me feel grubby) but I have done so a couple of times in my MANY years on the planet. I’ve also been a scout leader. Can I identify as a councillor? Or am I just destined to the non-binary garbage bin of the terminally woke? Oh fuck. No beard. I’m ineligible for the masons. I’m such a damned FAILURE.

[R0wantrees]

BBC3 Things Not To Say To A Non-Binary Person
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b4MZjMVgdk

Fox and Owl, 'This is what non-binary looks like'
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1FN3wKmERQ

[RiceandBeans]

Yes you’re right @LangCleg -subscription to the idea that what you wear makes you radical or cements your identity is very boring. For those who are hard of thinking.