Trans councillor leaves roles after 'threats to life'

[Bespin]

I'm not one for posting threads on here but I feel this is quite a sad position for this person and shows how hard it is to maintain a professional stance on this when you are receiving threats and abuse at the levels that are currently happening on the Internet, in no way am I saying this is gender critical people. But this debate as now got to such a level that it is starting to cost people there livelihoods on both sides of this so called debate.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-scotland-tayside-central-45151228

Judging by the Reddit profile, I'd say it was genuine

u/grogipher
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LGBTI (NB, agender, they/them). Scout Leader. Local Politician. Dundonian. Pro-EU, Pro-Indy

www.reddit.com/user/grogipher

It's not a new account, and previous posts suggest it is authentic

Lots of non-binary people think that being non-binary means they don't benefit from structural gendered oppression, which is false. Non-binary people can benefit from misogyny, transmisogyny and colonial binarism

Benefit?

Benefit?

That also struck me Datun

Freudian slip?

Anyway where is my phone charger, does this boat need mooring, does that cake need icing?'

I hope once the phone is moored and the boat is iced Bespin will come back to this thread because it's pretty indicative of several problems all at once and I'd like to hear her response.

Murray said that 40% female representation was 'fucking stupid'. And calls lesbians cunts for saying they are female homosexuals. Says they are feminist tho.

Also hashtags being camp cos (barely discernible) sparkles on wellies. Claims they are neither man nor a woman, despite the beard and XY chromosomes.

And DARVOs all over social media.

And on the back of that Bespin is worried we might have another Lucy Meadows, or attack by a TRA?

So a person with mental health issues killing themself, or a person with mental issues killing someone else.

But somehow this is women's responsibility?

We have to reframe our campaigning for our rights, in order that we don't provoke people with mental health issues?

Is that right Bespin?

A MN joke:

Two nonbinary people walk into a bar.
Said the penis-bearer to the cervix-haver
"You could've ducked under that"

I say, sturdy on.

Charlie Thanks, I'll have a read

Boom

Boom boom.

All the lolz.

And on the back of that Bespin is worried we might have another Lucy Meadows

I think some of those TRAs who have been spreading propaganda & lies heightening fears by people in the transgender community who are vunerable should definitely take this seriously.

Barracker
😂😂😂

apologies for the timing of my post!

More and more evidence that non binary is nonsense and should have no legitimacy at all wrt to anything legal or official, the fact that it's given any credibility outside teenage SJW/ queer circles blows my mind.

When used by males it's just a way to claim oppression and try and snide out of male privilege.

More and more evidence that non binary is nonsense and should have no legitimacy at all wrt to anything legal or official, the fact that it's given any credibility outside teenage SJW/ queer circles blows my mind.

Eden Ladley tweet re MPs' "correct position"
twitter.com/ladleye/status/1027237957076283392

Gill Furness MP Sheffield Brightside & Hilsborough statement:
"trans women are women trans men are men and non binary people are real and valid. Feminism is not in conflict with trans rights, we are all fighting the same battle for equality and we are stronger together. "(continues)

None of the usual apologists coming to Murray's defence on here (other than the OP who is now busy elsewhere) as far as I can see.

Funny that, almost like a rerun of the Jess Bradley thread - no, Jess, we haven't forgotten about you either, not for a moment. Murray may be joining you as Exhibit #2 in my GRA consultation submission. I don't want either of you self-IDing into female spaces, thank you.

Waves to Gregor, who is currently reading this, it seems.

mobile.twitter.com/grogipher

Keep digging, Gregor.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Bespin! Gregor doesn't like you and is mocking your spelling!

Gregor! Bespin isn't a GC feminist, dear.

tweet

Weirdly, 'I think they are an ideot' comes from the OP who was sad for Gregor.

Thereby showing more pisstaking at the Trans community, one of which actually felt some sadness at their position.

Bespin is a trans woman and regular poster on MN FWR.

So Gregor is not sorry at all. What a surprise.

And is making exactly the same mistakes that caused Gregor to resign the role in the first place.

Oh dear.