Strong words from feminists unhappy with trans exclusionary ideology..

[crispbuttyfan]

freedomnews.org.uk/its-spelt-sisterhood-not-cis-terhood-statement/

a little taster of the content, not my words....

"We are disgusted by the TERF techniques of bullying trans people and their friends and comrades. TERFs stand against a vulnerable minority by refusing their right to exist, using their dead names, doxxing them, smearing them online and in the press and waging a fear campaign, all whilst accusing trans women of being a possible legal and physical threat to cis women. These techniques are not consistent with their announced aim of getting legislation refused by parliament and belie the TERFs real agenda of intolerance.

We are sick and tired of TERF alarmism. There is no evidence that trans women are in any way a threat to cis women. To the contrary, there is a lot of evidence that TERFs feed the prejudice against trans women. The countries which introduced their own versions of GRA are not experiencing the problems the TERFs associate with allowing trans people to determine their own gender."

I’m always amused by denying the right to exist. You’re there. Hard to miss actually.

Doxxing - never seen anyone feminist do that. Have seen threats from TRAs (from that nice Ariel person) from interns who broke the law and stole data from MNHQ, from mermaids, who I think doxxed a child as well after a critical post on them here? So any examples of doxxing?

Propaganda - hmmm. Do you mean discussion? Women talking about an issue isn’t a violent act.

Trans women being a threat - MEN are a threat. That’s why we have women’s loos. Since transwomen are men and retain Male patterns of offending them they are classed as Male. Transwomen are no more or less a threat than any other man, they’re just men, so no, no access to female spaces.

Any actual examples they can give? Because otherwise it sounds rather like a spot of Tantrumming by people who thought they’d get their way but aren’t.

I’m rather cheered by this. It’s a petulant tone and it suggests that the awareness here is building momentum and having an impact. Jolly good. Let’s have a nice public debate about it all.

truscum you remain a source of common sense and logic.

May I ask if you are getting flack for this irl? Is it possible for you to express these opinions openly without getting a pile on? I somehow imagine that someone who has transitioned and isn’t putting up with the endless calls for validation from the TRA crowd is going to cop some abuse :/

So Tara Wolf signs a letter that claims 'TERFS' prosecuted a TRA with the help of the Met?
Seems disingenuous to me.

No feminist uses ‘cis’. And I’ve never heard of a trans woman being doxxed.

Are we contacting advertisers of trans forums?

Thank you Bowlofbabelfish I could say the same!

Honestly (apart from my CLP and some of the local members on that Facebook) most of the hate has been from Social Media.

I’ve made a game of it with my husband where I collect insults.

My favourite was ‘Nazi traitor cunt scum’

Life is too short to read the whole thing but

We will never accept snitching to the police after an event

I'm pretty sure TRAs called the police on some women after a meeting because they were heading to "their" pub.

It also reads like the bizarre rantings of ATH (Action for Trans Health) You can read their manifesto here:

edinburghath.tumblr.com/post/163521055802/trans-health-manifesto

bla bla cis terf bla bla bla

Nazi traitor cunt scum’

What a silver tongued lothario ....

Seriously though that’s awful :( stay safe.

Yeah they can fuck off.

'snitching'. Are you five?

Sisters Uncut co signed, they turned up at the Edinburgh WPUK talk, faces covered in scarves and balaclavas ( fronted by males) created noise to disrupt. Whilst oblivious to the convo inside ( they were invited in) shouted and banged over a woman talking for the first time of her sexual assault.
They also co-ordinated an attack on the venue that hosted the event.

They have nothing to do feminisim.

I'm actually a little bit embarrassed for you crispbuttyfan because you thought this was an important and credible article.

Seriously, why should we give the tiniest shiniest shite about this pile of woman hating bilge signed by people like Tara Wood and Sisters Uncut? These are people who have used intimidation, harrassment, incitement to violence and actual violence against us.

They really can fuck right off.

I’ll be fine.

It’s quite surreal actually, the most horrific insults always come from people who have (sometimes frankly disturbing) child-like looking anime avatars. It’s like some kind of uniform.

'Strong words from a bunch of TRAs having a strop because women refuse to submit despite their best aggressive efforts' would be a better thread title.

Seriously, why should we give the tiniest shiniest shite about this pile of woman hating bilge signed by people like Tara Wood and Sisters Uncut?

Bizarre that Crispbutty thinks we might even be interested. The ramblings of the ignorant. Wonder how long it took them to put that rubbish together ;-) At least they lined their names up so we can identify this bunch of ignorant idiots in case they try to put pen to paper again.

Remind me. Tara Wolf, is that the same one who has a criminal conviction for attacking a women?

If so this is a bit fucking embarrassing isn't it all whilst accusing trans women of being a possible legal and physical threat to cis women

God, it’s so earnest and self-righteous and still total crap.

Crisp - serious question: did you expect anyone to take seriously a letter cosigned by T Wood, recently convicted of punching a woman in her 60s?

And can you supply us with any evidence whatsoever of any rad feminist ever having physically assaulted a trans person? Or doxxed them? By evidence I mean reputable mainstream media, not an unsubstantiated tweet or blog post.

And while we're at it, my refusing to say the catechism doesn't imply that I think Catholics don't exist. Similarly with trans issues.

I think I got deleted for dicks

I'll tell you who else uses "don't snitch" as a shaming tactic: schoolyard bullies. Who benefits? The bullies do. The TRAs have taken the civil rights movement's criticism of the police and justice system as institutionally racist and in desperate need of reform and bastardised it to suit their bullying tactics.

Crispbutty isn't big on providing evidence for anything of importance sadly.

Noqonterfi
that was another thread, stop being childish, I supplied the survey that clearly stated trans support is in the majority of women, I am neither sorry/interested/surprised you don't accept something that goes against your point of view, harangue someone else, thanks.

Why on earth would anyone take this stream of misogynistic woman hating bilge seriously? Just shows how desperate they are as the #nodebate demands are being ignored.