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IW compares MN to the National Front and Nuremberg Rally

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 24/04/2018 17:52

www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/04/24/india-willoughby-transphobia-opinion-worried-for-my-life-mumsnet/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

This was an interesting read. It seems IW has taken to channeling Katie Hopkins. I'm not going to try and pull it apart as there is so so much wrong with it...

"I’m sure most people who use the site are decent folk. They want nothing to do with the rabid mouth-frothing going on by so-called “feminists.”"

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IdentifiesAsMiddleAged · 24/04/2018 18:02

What is it with the 'folk'?

As for frothing, she's obviously never been on AIBU or she'd know Feminist Chat is the most calm, polite, cogent part of the site

ArcheryAnnie · 24/04/2018 18:03

I remember when Prick News used to be Pink News, and worth reading, back in the day. You could pop into a gay bar and pick up a copy from the stack just inside the front door.

Not any more. It's amazing (or possibly not amazing at all) how much Pink News now hate women.

BlackeyedSusan · 24/04/2018 18:06

One wonders who exactly is doing the frothing here... Hmm

0phelia · 24/04/2018 18:08

I am not clicking on that link because prick news deserves no clicks at all.

Skatingfastonthinice · 24/04/2018 18:10

She thought it was going to be all about prams and family matters? Because that’s what women who are mothers are supposed to concern themselves about? Rather than politics and Big Stuff?
What a narrow stereotype of what a woman is.

LangCleg · 24/04/2018 18:11

What a tiresome but ever-bloody-present person India is.

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R0wantrees · 24/04/2018 18:14

India is quite a late member of the group who have been claiming the same for some time...

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 24/04/2018 18:16

I'm hoping that perhaps India's views will "peak trans" even more people. I'm idly wondering if what IW is libellous in any way?

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AssassinatedBeauty · 24/04/2018 18:16

How original. Women who don't agree with your belief system are frothing.

ReluctantCamper · 24/04/2018 18:20

so called feminists

thanks India. You and Maria Miller policing who gets to be a feminist. Oh and this guy

twitter.com/DrAdrianHarrop/status/988343353644343296

NotTerfNorCis · 24/04/2018 18:20

I admit – I wasn’t convinced about self ID myself to begin with, but the evidence from around the world is irrefutable. I was categorically wrong, and fell for the hysteria.

In other news, you didn't like being the bad guy so you turned tail and blamed others for your 'truscum' opinions.

Popchyk · 24/04/2018 18:21

I have to wonder how happy the trans community generally are with India as self-elected spokesperson?

Never any mention of non-binary, gender-fluid or transmen and the difficulties that they may face.

It is all about men who identify as women and how women should be accommodating them. Every time. Never a deviation from that path.

NotTerfNorCis · 24/04/2018 18:22

libellous

Certainly hate speech. Surely comparing any group to Nazis, unless they're actual Nazis, counts as hate speech.

Wanderabout · 24/04/2018 18:23

Lisa Muggeridge on twitter:

Yes. Women discussing the alignment of safeguarding, gender recogniton and equality frameworks are worse than nazis. Of course.

This is the conversation playing out on mumsnet.

What possible reason could anyone have to fear or be hounded by this?

NOT having this conversation in an honest, responsible way will contribute to fear and suspicion far, far more than having it.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 24/04/2018 18:24

LOL. It's all getting rather ridiculous now isn't it?

I can't get wound up by this, they are ramping up the rhetoric because they know they have now cogent arguments except feelings.

Bring it on

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 24/04/2018 18:25

no, not now

bd67th · 24/04/2018 18:25

@Skatingfastonthinice Yup, and it's this TRA definition of "woman" as a collection of stereotypes instead of a full human who happen to be female that is why I've become gender critical. I defy most feminine stereotypes: still a woman.

LangCleg · 24/04/2018 18:26

I can't get wound up by this, they are ramping up the rhetoric because they know they have now cogent arguments except feelings.

Yep. All they have is narcissistic rage. And the more people they turn it on, the more people they turn off.

Skatingfastonthinice · 24/04/2018 18:28

In the way that my sister fits most of the stereotypes of a feminine female, and is a strong feminist. So much more than our accessories.

Tinycitrus · 24/04/2018 18:29

Last week was my first ever visit to Mumsnet. Honestly, I thought it was going to be lots of stuff about prams, or family-related matters. A sort of online This Morning minus Phil and Holly. The reality is more like a Nuremberg Rally. It’s very scary.

Women! Know your limits!

BlackForestCake · 24/04/2018 18:32

What is it with the 'folk'?

Trans cultists like to use inclusive words like "folk" and "siblings" instead of gendered terms such as "men and women" or "brothers and sisters" because not everybody identifies as a man or a woman. Don't get what's wrong with "people", though.

ReluctantCamper · 24/04/2018 18:34

yeah, I mean I enjoy the insane AIBUs and the Christmas bargains, but what I really enjoy is the goosestepping. So good for the thighs.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 24/04/2018 18:37

Ha ha Camper, I wonder if LesMills will start a new exercise class 'Body GooseStep'