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IW compares MN to the National Front and Nuremberg Rally

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 24/04/2018 17:52

www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/04/24/india-willoughby-transphobia-opinion-worried-for-my-life-mumsnet/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

This was an interesting read. It seems IW has taken to channeling Katie Hopkins. I'm not going to try and pull it apart as there is so so much wrong with it...

"I’m sure most people who use the site are decent folk. They want nothing to do with the rabid mouth-frothing going on by so-called “feminists.”"

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Beyond11cisRetinol · 25/04/2018 10:52

Oh pllllleeeeeeaaaaase can someone start that thread! 😂

TerfsUp · 25/04/2018 10:55

MetalMidget, that was a great post.

YetAnotherHelenMumsnet · 25/04/2018 11:20

Hello all. Glad to see this thread is now employing the good humour for which MN is rightly famed.
We have made some deletions, though. We understand that the IW piece is provocative, but it's best not to be provoked if at all possible as it's all grist to the mill. Thanks!

Wanderabout · 25/04/2018 11:21

CakeFlowersBrew to mumsnet

TheUterati · 25/04/2018 11:32

Can someone please clarify why these deletions have been made? What transgressions were committed?

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 25/04/2018 11:39

Comments on appearance I think Uterati

There's no need for it tbh. It's not as if we don't have enough to to talk about

MoltenLasagne · 25/04/2018 11:47

I thought the rule was first party to resort to reducto ad Hitlerum (or whatever, failed Latin) lost the argument...

TheUterati · 25/04/2018 11:49

Assigned. Hmmm. Don't recall I saw anything deletion worthy. I wondered if it was for 'misgendering' AKA correctly using the pronouns to refer to a man.

I wonder if threads elsewhere on MN where the appearance of women is referred to in less than favourable terms are also deleted? I can't believe there aren't such posts on celebrity threads.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 25/04/2018 11:55

I assume my comment was deleted as it referred to a man

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 25/04/2018 11:55

Probably Uterati but given our posts are being screenshotted and posted on twitter out of context as 'evidence' of transphobia, I do think we need to be careful.

I have been the first one to be narked at the 'we go high' crap, but a bit of caution wouldn't go amiss

TheUterati · 25/04/2018 12:01

I will not not state the truth and I will not agree to use language inaccurately. Nor will I agree to use clumsy grammatical constructions in order to avoid using language correctly.

If that gets screenshotted, so be it.

Further, if that is the worst that can be screenshotted and publicised as being evidence of 'calls for genocide' then the better that it is publicised. Might wake a few more people up to the fact that the claims that we are inciting violence are a load of gaslighting bullshit.

TheUterati · 25/04/2018 12:05

Not saying 'he' is not an example of TGLAWGH (apologies for probably bolloxing up the acronym!).

Not saying 'he' is capitulating to trans ideology, is reifying trans and is saying that, yes, your internal felt identity does determine the definition of correct behaviour.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 25/04/2018 12:07

Ok Uterati, you asked a question and I answered Grin. You don't have to agree with my answer but I believe my answer covers where MN is at on the deletions.

Right, am off to the gym, spent half the morning on here as it is.

RadicalFern · 25/04/2018 12:08

Teacup you've made my day!

TheUterati · 25/04/2018 12:10

Assigned - not having a go at you! And am grateful for your answer. Just responding in light of the general MN position.

Enjoy the gym!

womanhuman · 25/04/2018 12:17

‘Enjoy the gym’!?

You know who enjoyed the gym? Hitler, that’s who.

TheUterati · 25/04/2018 12:18
Grin

Gotta get your quads in shape for all that goose-stepping!

RefuseToDenounceBiology · 25/04/2018 12:21

I think the deletions were about whether India passes or not based on India's appearance. I think I am right in saying comments about male attitudes/behaviours can still stand.

RefuseToDenounceBiology · 25/04/2018 12:26

Gotta get your quads in shape for all that goose-stepping!

That's the great thing about goose-stepping - how well it works the legs as well as the core.

TheUterati · 25/04/2018 12:29

True....

And if you extend and point your toes properly you can channel your inner ballerina as well as your inner Nazi.

What's not to like??

RefuseToDenounceBiology · 25/04/2018 12:31
Grin
AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 25/04/2018 12:32

Yep, Body GooseStep

RefuseToDenounceBiology · 25/04/2018 12:37

reluctantcampers posts have been great.

Regarding the 'body goose-step' - I think this thing has legs. I can imagine a class at my gym - could pregnant women do it or do they need a more gentle version? How about mum's with a weak pelvic floor?

RefuseToDenounceBiology · 25/04/2018 12:39

Maybe tena-lady could have an advert showing mumsnetters at Body Goose Step and smiling because they don't have to worry about leaks?

Beyond11cisRetinol · 25/04/2018 12:40

Of course every reductio ad hitlarium needs a twitter poll...

twitter.com/michaelconroy68/status/988858425818968064?s=21