Ham pr disasters 45! …hiding? …undercover?..or ready for the next adventure!

[jeffgoldblum]

still discussing the delightful escapades of our favourite twosome!

I agree.

I would make a cluedo (or "clue", I believe, for our over t' pondies)

Not a murder version, too gory, just a social-media-death version

It was Meghan, in the white van, with Insta

Honestly, I do not live an aspirational lifestyle.

But if I saw a house with huge red bows on every window, I wouldn’t think posh, but footballers’ wives.

On the same-ish sort of note, I looked up the Compartes advent calendars. Which are hideous, and look like the things that Temu keeps trying to sell me. I assume that the chocolate is better.

Maybe a parliament of owls instead 🦉 🦉 🦉

Gifts & Homeware – Tiptree

I'm late to the advent calendar talk, but as there seem to be some jam fans on here I was going to link to my favorite Tiptree (Wilkingsons) advent calendar, last year in a festive Big Red London bus.

But they don't seem to have one on their website this year 😰They do have a remarkably nice looking liqueure advent though. £70 for 24 days of tipple! I'll take that over the jammy chocolate.

Found one,

Tiptree Advent Calendar - Ocado £35

😂😂
That makes about as much sense!

Reading some of the crazy claims about the UK Parliament and Monarchy on here, it's entirely possible some people think we have a Parliament of Owls! 🦉

It was @JuniperJumper s brilliant brain child

I know that's how I make all my decisions 🦉

Lainey G was doing it on a daily basis on her blog.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

The vertical lines of the advent calendar's windows at the top seem to sit on the roof like a series of TV and radio masts. Really crap, cheap design.

Many thanks for the kind accolade

Gracious smiles & fluttery royal waves to you

I genuinely think you ought to patent it before the idea gets stolen!

One X poster is suggesting M has inscribed the book in order to put it on E-bay and that it wasn't a present for Eug.

Wot ever. It's a bargain at £19,999.99.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5584670-ebay-treasure?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share
Here's the thread, Ida.

So just to change the subject back from constitutional issues to WTF HAM are doing back in the UK, I've been doing a bit of research about their finances.

Of course everything online is speculation, because no-one knows exactly how much they're worth, but this is what I've dug up (all figures are estimations)

• Wealth - $60 million (I don't think this includes the house in Montecito which is estimated as being worth about $30 million now)
• Annual outgoings - anything from $6-20 million (of which $2-3 million is security). But if we go with the lowest figure, that only gives them approx. 10 years of living costs on their current cash wealth.
• Legal damages bill (to be shared between the claimants) in the ANL case - up to £34.5 million, but this still tbd. The claimants have insurance up to about £16 million, but not beyond that figure. So who will pick up that tab? Elton John has said he's not going to be stuck with it all and Harry was the driving force behind the action in the first place so ...
• Future earnings/wealth growth potential - Harry still CIO at BetterUp ($1m pa), public speaking and appearances, As Ever (is this making any money?), inheritance of personal wealth from Charles on his passing. Anything beyond that, like Meghan's kickbacks from designers is small change.

Anything I've missed? Things don't look too rosy for them though if these figures are even half right and this very sudden move back to the UK only makes sense when you follow the $$$$.

https://parade.com/culture/prince-harry-net-worth

Ah thank-you, William

Cynical me wonders if fundraisers needing to fix a few roof tiles are thinking of a thirty year anniversary exhibition of dresses etc at somewhere like KP.

I don't think this includes the house in Montecito which is estimated as being worth about $30 million now

Do they own that outright, or is there a mortgage on it?
The upkeep and property taxes must cost them a fair whack. Presumably there are still caretakers/grounds staff even when they aren't living there.

Their security costs are going to increase as the Hamlets grow up and want to do things independently. I wonder at what stage one or both of them will rebel and say they don't want to be followed around by a goon in a badly fitting suit.

If they purchase a house in the Cotswolds that will take a huge whack of savings and they seem to want somewhere with huge grounds

They now have school fees for both children and I think their security has been rumoured to cost 5 million a year?

I presume they also have quite a few staff to help with all the different aspects of their lives

They also have a house in Portugal which must eat into their annual outgoings

So I would imagine their annual outgoings are at the higher end of that figure.

More of an imposter, really.

I don't understand, you think that Charles Spencer has to mend a leaking roof? The wedding dress belongs to William, Spencer can't hawk it round as an earner anymore.

I think this is a wonderful idea and I can throughly recommend The Wild Rabbit at Kingham and The Bull at Charlbury. I’m sure there are a few vanity games manufacturers. I’ll look into it. Everyone needs a hobby.

Anyway, the point I was trying to make (above) is that if you follow the money, you see that in a few years' time HAM aren't going to be able to afford to pay their security bill any more - it will literally bankrupt them. So them moving back here, even temporarily, in order to put pressure on RAVEC to reinstate their security, is not just because Harry is feeling nostalgic about the UK, it's because their very financial survival depends on them getting that security reinstated. And the ANL ruling going against Harry and Co earlier this year only makes that issue more pressing ...