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King Charles orders Harry & Meghan to be treated like ordinary citizens 2

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Viviennemary · 08/09/2026 20:24

Is there any more to be said. I expect there probably is. So I started a new thread. Be interesting to see what their next move is. It's like a game of chess A we getting clarification. I want to know if they'll be doing walkabouts, hospital visits, and so on. Being greeted by dignitaries at home and overseas like they were on their visit to NY and Australia.

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damnatiomemoriae · 11/09/2026 16:49

Re the revenge frock.

“It would need tailoring though.”

Since when has that ever stopped her? 😈

Comicalblackcat · 11/09/2026 16:51

i now see Meghan is going to do charity work, last I heard she was going back to acting and was “having talks about her role”. Always seems to be having “talks” about different things but it goes no further????

IdaGlossop · 11/09/2026 16:52

IcedPurple · 11/09/2026 16:42

No, he's the next in direct line after William.

If anyone is the 'spare' it would be Charlotte.

I realise I am not clear on what constitutes a spare. Now, William is the heir, obviously. Options for the spare: George, because he is the next in line; Charlotte, because William and George are the next in the direct line ie first borns; Harry, because George us a minor.

So it 's everything to do with the direct line and nothing to do with having reached adulthood. Is that right, @IcedPurple ?

damnatiomemoriae · 11/09/2026 16:53

Comicalblackcat · 11/09/2026 16:51

i now see Meghan is going to do charity work, last I heard she was going back to acting and was “having talks about her role”. Always seems to be having “talks” about different things but it goes no further????

Perhaps she’s going to be a chugger on Corrie.

Two birds one stone.

KilkennyCats · 11/09/2026 16:55

Comicalblackcat · 11/09/2026 16:51

i now see Meghan is going to do charity work, last I heard she was going back to acting and was “having talks about her role”. Always seems to be having “talks” about different things but it goes no further????

She’s probably the only one doing the talking and the only word she hears in response is No?

IcedPurple · 11/09/2026 16:56

IdaGlossop · 11/09/2026 16:52

I realise I am not clear on what constitutes a spare. Now, William is the heir, obviously. Options for the spare: George, because he is the next in line; Charlotte, because William and George are the next in the direct line ie first borns; Harry, because George us a minor.

So it 's everything to do with the direct line and nothing to do with having reached adulthood. Is that right, @IcedPurple ?

There's no official definition of 'spare' so I guess it's up to anyone to define it!

To me, George is not the 'spare' because he is next in direct line. Harry may at one point have been 3rd in line but he was always going to get pushed down once William started having children. That won't happen with George, so to me he isn't the 'spare'. It's a silly term anyway!

Mylovelygreendress · 11/09/2026 17:04

BigWillyLittleTodger · 11/09/2026 15:44

Diana’s revenge dress is up for sale, maybe she put in a bid 🤔

I am rather hoping that W buys it and packs it away .

Notsosweetcaroline · 11/09/2026 17:15

The spare is the person who becomes monarch If something happens to the monarch and there is no child next in line. So prior to having kids, Harry was the spare so if anything happened to William he would have been king.

bit like when Edward abdicated and George took over, George was the spare. He was his brother and Edward had no kids.

right now the spare is Charlotte, if George couldn’t be king, ie he dies or fucks off, she would be queen. Once George has kids, it will be the sibling to the first born,

if William died, and Charles, George would be made monarch, but he would habe a regency until he reached adult hood. Ie an adult, which I think should be andrew as the oldest son but an act of parliament would likely make it Anne or Edward.

IdaGlossop · 11/09/2026 18:51

BigWillyLittleTodger · 11/09/2026 16:40

Considering she has cos played Wallis Simpson’s outfits on a few occasions I wouldn’t be surprised if she did, I agree she doesn’t have the model height and figure of Diana to carry it off.

Expressed with more kindness than I managed 😊

IdaGlossop · 11/09/2026 18:53

IcedPurple · 11/09/2026 16:56

There's no official definition of 'spare' so I guess it's up to anyone to define it!

To me, George is not the 'spare' because he is next in direct line. Harry may at one point have been 3rd in line but he was always going to get pushed down once William started having children. That won't happen with George, so to me he isn't the 'spare'. It's a silly term anyway!

It's also an unkind term.

Rhaidimiddim · 11/09/2026 18:57

IdaGlossop · 11/09/2026 16:52

I realise I am not clear on what constitutes a spare. Now, William is the heir, obviously. Options for the spare: George, because he is the next in line; Charlotte, because William and George are the next in the direct line ie first borns; Harry, because George us a minor.

So it 's everything to do with the direct line and nothing to do with having reached adulthood. Is that right, @IcedPurple ?

It is about the Monarch having at least two children, so that his/her children inherit the title and it doesn't go back up the line and sideways.

W was Charles' heir, H was his spare. W has procreated so the title gets inherited down the line, and Charles' heir is now redundant

W, in the same position, has George as his heir and Charlotte as his spare.

ETA it isn't just the Monarch, it is a term used for the second son of all titled men.

shanghainights · 11/09/2026 19:37

IcedPurple · 11/09/2026 16:56

There's no official definition of 'spare' so I guess it's up to anyone to define it!

To me, George is not the 'spare' because he is next in direct line. Harry may at one point have been 3rd in line but he was always going to get pushed down once William started having children. That won't happen with George, so to me he isn't the 'spare'. It's a silly term anyway!

He's a has been spare. 🤷‍♀️

TheSparklyGoat · 11/09/2026 19:59

shanghainights · 11/09/2026 19:37

He's a has been spare. 🤷‍♀️

Has been, hairs been.

IAmATorturedPoet · 11/09/2026 20:04

No heir [hair] spare

TheSparklyGoat · 11/09/2026 20:25

Can you spare a hair?

Lukylukyluky · 11/09/2026 20:42

Notsosweetcaroline · 11/09/2026 17:15

The spare is the person who becomes monarch If something happens to the monarch and there is no child next in line. So prior to having kids, Harry was the spare so if anything happened to William he would have been king.

bit like when Edward abdicated and George took over, George was the spare. He was his brother and Edward had no kids.

right now the spare is Charlotte, if George couldn’t be king, ie he dies or fucks off, she would be queen. Once George has kids, it will be the sibling to the first born,

if William died, and Charles, George would be made monarch, but he would habe a regency until he reached adult hood. Ie an adult, which I think should be andrew as the oldest son but an act of parliament would likely make it Anne or Edward.

I think the regent should be Catherine.
We can’t use Andrew for obvious reasons and although Anne and Edward are popular Catherine is far more so than either of them.
Harry is out of the question before anyone asks!
I’m not suggesting that Catherine should rule as Queen in her own right (she doesn’t share the royal bloodline - and if that doesn’t matter then what is the actual point of the royal family?)
However, she could stand as regent for the short time until George came of age - he will be 18 in five years time after all.

Notsosweetcaroline · 11/09/2026 20:57

Lukylukyluky · 11/09/2026 20:42

I think the regent should be Catherine.
We can’t use Andrew for obvious reasons and although Anne and Edward are popular Catherine is far more so than either of them.
Harry is out of the question before anyone asks!
I’m not suggesting that Catherine should rule as Queen in her own right (she doesn’t share the royal bloodline - and if that doesn’t matter then what is the actual point of the royal family?)
However, she could stand as regent for the short time until George came of age - he will be 18 in five years time after all.

I don’t think she can be, however it’s moot the odds of Charles and William dying are very low.

Notsosweetcaroline · 11/09/2026 21:00

IdaGlossop · 11/09/2026 18:53

It's also an unkind term.

It’s just a turn of phrase, from thr late 1800s. The heir and spare is the full term. It means royals and aristocrats have one kid who will be the successor and one who is the back up. It wasn’t designed for Harry.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 11/09/2026 21:07

Notsosweetcaroline · 11/09/2026 20:57

I don’t think she can be, however it’s moot the odds of Charles and William dying are very low.

She can be, it's up to Parliament. Princess Margaret was the legal regent for Charles, but it was changed to give it to Prince Philip.
I strongly suspect she's pencilled in.

Notsosweetcaroline · 11/09/2026 21:50

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 11/09/2026 21:07

She can be, it's up to Parliament. Princess Margaret was the legal regent for Charles, but it was changed to give it to Prince Philip.
I strongly suspect she's pencilled in.

Yes you’re right and bizzarely it’s Harry right now. So likely there would be an act of parliament,

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 11/09/2026 22:00

Notsosweetcaroline · 11/09/2026 21:50

Yes you’re right and bizzarely it’s Harry right now. So likely there would be an act of parliament,

Yes. He doesn't have a cat's chance in hell.
Fortunately for the UK.

Baital · 12/09/2026 07:23

Not even a spare any more...

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 12/09/2026 07:33

Baital · 12/09/2026 07:23

Not even a spare any more...

Quite, it probably doesn't look like such a bad deal now, as he's desperate to be a working royal again.

CoffeeCantata · 12/09/2026 08:02

IdaGlossop · 11/09/2026 18:53

It's also an unkind term.

A very mild one!

if anyone, including Harry, is offended by that, life is going to be tough for them.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 12/09/2026 08:08

CoffeeCantata · 12/09/2026 08:02

A very mild one!

if anyone, including Harry, is offended by that, life is going to be tough for them.

True , and he's not even been the Spare for a long time, so he needs to get over it or get help.