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Could someone please explain to me - H&M related

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Cannesdo · 22/08/2026 15:56

Could someone please explain to me how Harry and Meghan’s return to the UK will work out.
They’re very unpopular with the British public.
Unless Doria moves over to the UK, Meghan has no family support.
Harry has burned so many bridges with his family.
His friends, those that are remaining, will have to choose between supporting Harry or supporting William and apparently they have had quite a aristocratic friends in common.
William will be the King so I presume he will be supported by many of those mutual friends.
Will the first cousins, George, Charlotte, Louis, Archie and Lilibet ever meet up ?
Apart from probably funerals.
Not my monkey not my circus I know, but it is a mess.

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Screamingabdabz · 23/08/2026 14:55

adverteasing · 23/08/2026 14:41

Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of success.

When their engagement was first announced they were an absolute hit with most of the public! Their wedding was a huge success despite some missteps from the bride-to-be with her first public engagements. Remember the whole "Fabulous Four" stuff? Yes, there were some shitty articles in the gutter press targeting Meghan, but nothing that couldn't have been easily ignored and overcome. They had the offer of an amazing life - houses, hobbies and holidays - in exchange for some pretty lightweight charitable work and high profile public appearances. They could have promoted any number of interests and issues that were important to them. What a life.

Quite bluntly, they fucked it. They betrayed his family and completely sold out. Who in the UK would trust them now?

Agree. They took a golden opportunity to be a force for good and fucked it for greed and thinking they were better. It just showed them to be thick and desperate.

I don’t see how they can thrive in the UK. They’ve burned too many bridges.

whippersnapper55 · 23/08/2026 15:02

How is it going to work? I've no idea. Do I care? Not a lot.

I don't normally comment on H&M posts, but scrolling down I'm baffled at how many people seem over invested in the lives of a bunch of privileged people they don't know. Their financial affairs, jobs, family squabbles and living arrangements are of no interest to most people, surely?

CoffeeCantata · 23/08/2026 15:17

whippersnapper55 · 23/08/2026 15:02

How is it going to work? I've no idea. Do I care? Not a lot.

I don't normally comment on H&M posts, but scrolling down I'm baffled at how many people seem over invested in the lives of a bunch of privileged people they don't know. Their financial affairs, jobs, family squabbles and living arrangements are of no interest to most people, surely?

We are a constitutional monarchy and KC is our Head of State. They are not just ANY old bunch of privileged people. They have a role in state affairs.

Its not like the Kardashians…yet.

Thedogscollar · 23/08/2026 15:21

The energy people use up on here indulging in the press coverage given to a family moving house is mindblowing.
The vitriol and insulting posts about two strangers is behaviour a psychiatrist/psychologist must revell in.
It's fascinating to watch people's reactions to complete strangers. I prefer to defer to the Mel Robbins theory of 'let them'
For all the HAM haters try it. It'll set you free from this circle of doom that you are trapped in.

Mycatisreal · 23/08/2026 15:24

It seems a very very strange decision considering the trouble they’ve caused. I can’t get my head round it at all. They wanted privacy. No they didn’t. Far from it. They’ve taken the piss out of the RF on more than one level. Calling the kid Lillibet being one massive piss take. I just don’t get the thinking behind them coming back and I wish they weren’t.

Cannesdo · 23/08/2026 15:26

Mycatisreal · 23/08/2026 15:24

It seems a very very strange decision considering the trouble they’ve caused. I can’t get my head round it at all. They wanted privacy. No they didn’t. Far from it. They’ve taken the piss out of the RF on more than one level. Calling the kid Lillibet being one massive piss take. I just don’t get the thinking behind them coming back and I wish they weren’t.

I’m with you 👍

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Mycatisreal · 23/08/2026 15:29

Cannesdo · 23/08/2026 15:26

I’m with you 👍

It’s utterly baffling. Coming back with their tails between their legs isn’t their style is it. She’s a brash bully and he’s a dimwit for allowing himself to be taken for such a fool. Genuinely perplexed.

CoffeeCantata · 23/08/2026 15:37

Thedogscollar · 23/08/2026 15:21

The energy people use up on here indulging in the press coverage given to a family moving house is mindblowing.
The vitriol and insulting posts about two strangers is behaviour a psychiatrist/psychologist must revell in.
It's fascinating to watch people's reactions to complete strangers. I prefer to defer to the Mel Robbins theory of 'let them'
For all the HAM haters try it. It'll set you free from this circle of doom that you are trapped in.

Congratulations! You have crammed the greatest number of predictable and hackneyed cliches, scolding posters on these threads that I’ve seen for a while.

durdledoris · 23/08/2026 15:38

Mycatisreal · 23/08/2026 15:24

It seems a very very strange decision considering the trouble they’ve caused. I can’t get my head round it at all. They wanted privacy. No they didn’t. Far from it. They’ve taken the piss out of the RF on more than one level. Calling the kid Lillibet being one massive piss take. I just don’t get the thinking behind them coming back and I wish they weren’t.

I agree!!

mydogisthebest · 23/08/2026 15:39

incrediblyincredible · 22/08/2026 18:23

I feel sorry for William and Kate. They really didn’t need this.

I don't feel sorry for the workshy pair. Good luck to Meghan and Harry. I hope they will be very happy wherever they live.

CoffeeCantata · 23/08/2026 15:47

mydogisthebest · 23/08/2026 15:39

I don't feel sorry for the workshy pair. Good luck to Meghan and Harry. I hope they will be very happy wherever they live.

🤣🤣🤣

CoffeeCantata · 23/08/2026 16:02

mydogisthebest · 23/08/2026 15:39

I don't feel sorry for the workshy pair. Good luck to Meghan and Harry. I hope they will be very happy wherever they live.

They don’t seem to be able to find happiness anywhere, do they?

I think the problem might be THEM.

NOTANUM · 23/08/2026 16:12

I suspect they got wind his US Visa will not
be renewed. There is the admission of taking drugs well into adulthood and they have been openly critical of Trump. This aligns to the idea that it was a rush to return and the security issues can suddenly be overlooked.

They will stay long enough to get the two kids to an age when boarding school won’t be looked at critically and will head to Portugal (house #3).

Screamingabdabz · 23/08/2026 16:14

Thedogscollar · 23/08/2026 15:21

The energy people use up on here indulging in the press coverage given to a family moving house is mindblowing.
The vitriol and insulting posts about two strangers is behaviour a psychiatrist/psychologist must revell in.
It's fascinating to watch people's reactions to complete strangers. I prefer to defer to the Mel Robbins theory of 'let them'
For all the HAM haters try it. It'll set you free from this circle of doom that you are trapped in.

’haters’ 🙄

Why do you love them so much? Genuinely curious as you seem so defensive of them.

NOTANUM · 23/08/2026 16:14

It will be interesting to see how close they remain to Eugenie and Beatrice. Both value Uncle Charles not throwing them to exile like he did their father. I don’t think they’d risk upsetting William too much.

Woodfiresareamazing2 · 23/08/2026 16:32

NOTANUM · 23/08/2026 16:12

I suspect they got wind his US Visa will not
be renewed. There is the admission of taking drugs well into adulthood and they have been openly critical of Trump. This aligns to the idea that it was a rush to return and the security issues can suddenly be overlooked.

They will stay long enough to get the two kids to an age when boarding school won’t be looked at critically and will head to Portugal (house #3).

I agree @NOTANUM , I think it's visa-related.

KC3 needs to tread carefully because I don't think W and K will want anything to do with them, and he can't afford to piss them off.

I don't think they're all going to be playing happy families together at Sandringham for Christmas, for example.

luckylavender · 23/08/2026 16:36

Cannesdo · 22/08/2026 15:56

Could someone please explain to me how Harry and Meghan’s return to the UK will work out.
They’re very unpopular with the British public.
Unless Doria moves over to the UK, Meghan has no family support.
Harry has burned so many bridges with his family.
His friends, those that are remaining, will have to choose between supporting Harry or supporting William and apparently they have had quite a aristocratic friends in common.
William will be the King so I presume he will be supported by many of those mutual friends.
Will the first cousins, George, Charlotte, Louis, Archie and Lilibet ever meet up ?
Apart from probably funerals.
Not my monkey not my circus I know, but it is a mess.

Nobody can explain anything to you because we’re not Mystic Meg.

luckylavender · 23/08/2026 16:41

DaisyDooley · 22/08/2026 19:16

I’m pretty sure the more I read that there has been a double whammy that has made this snap decision to move back.
1)Loosing court case. Potentially on the hook for £3-7 million. More of he’s promised Dorreen Lawrence to cover her costs.
It’s ok to say ‘oh he’s worth millions’. How much of your own nett worth do you have in liquid assets? If they are worth £70million (unlikely) do you think he’s got £7 million (10%) just on deposit waiting to be spent??
2) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EkG1rxfejtA&pp=ygUpS2V2IG9sc3VsbGl2YW4gbmlhbCBnYXJyZGluZXIgdGhpbmsgdGFuayA%3D
watch this. Nial Gardiener - chair of the think tank American heritage.
Harry lied (IMHO) on his visa application and has comitted a federal offence. 5 (possible) yrs jail and banned from entering the USA EVER again.

They are fucked.
The family saw what they have done over the last 6years. Who in that tight knit group will break ranks to see them when they know they cannot be trusted?
Equally former ‘mutual ‘ friends ( the van cutsems, Straubenzee, Guy Pelly, ) will all simply ignore him and stay loyal to William. Friends of Harry’s whom he dropped when he married -well only sad individuals would bother with people who treat them dreadfully. Celebrities - they are notoriously private and can’t bear people breaking ranks. Hollywood didn’t like Harry dropping Courtney cox in the shit in ‘Spare’. The Cotswold set - well the Beckhams won’t be phoning them, Meghan will have nothing in common with the aristocracy/wealthy set who all went to the right schools and know eat h other, like shoots and hunting.
The King? I’m sure he would like to see Harry & his grandchildren - but he is a very very busy man and never ever underestimate Camilla who will understandably want as little as possible to do with Harry.
They expect us to believe that they are coming back to this cold wet salty island, full of racists and people who hate them where they are so unsafe because of a part in a tv series and because ‘school’ - was Archie not already at a decent school??

It’s typical Sussex. Panic, snap decision, bad PR, look stupid, winge, repeat .
Neither of them have anything to offer the UK.
They might as well hve come over on a dingy from France as they will contribute nothing and cost us a fucking fortune.

I’m not H&M’s biggest fan & I think this could make things really difficult for the Royals. But I wouldn’t believe a word Niall Gardiner utters. He’s obnoxious.

AprilMizzel · 23/08/2026 16:46

I expect what they think they'll get and reality may be very different for them - but who knows.

There's lots of talk about being with family in press but mentioing the spensors - I'm not sure who is similar ages to their kids there if anyone.

I think it's likely visa and money related but possible also a fresh start as US ventures haven't gone well - or as well as hoped.

I also suspect they'll come back for a bit get annoyed and then try somewhere else.

Thedogscollar · 23/08/2026 16:47

Screamingabdabz · 23/08/2026 16:14

’haters’ 🙄

Why do you love them so much? Genuinely curious as you seem so defensive of them.

You will see no hate or love from me re HAM. I don't know them from Adam so how could I possibly form any sort of relationship.
The relationship you and @CoffeeCantataand many others have with them is literally in your head.
Let it go so you can concentrate on your own life, family and friends.
Your obsession with what they've allegedly said, done and going to do is seriously unhealthy.

CoffeeCantata · 23/08/2026 17:04

Thedogscollar · 23/08/2026 16:47

You will see no hate or love from me re HAM. I don't know them from Adam so how could I possibly form any sort of relationship.
The relationship you and @CoffeeCantataand many others have with them is literally in your head.
Let it go so you can concentrate on your own life, family and friends.
Your obsession with what they've allegedly said, done and going to do is seriously unhealthy.

I just don’t get why, if you claim to know nothing of them and not to care, why on earth are you on a thread scolding pps who do know a lot about them and ARE interested?

Now THAT a is weird.

ginasevern · 23/08/2026 17:16

@CoffeeCantata "I am miserable to think they've come back. It was bad enough when they were thousands of miles away."

Bad enough for who? If the return of a couple of strangers that you'll never, ever meet and who don't affect your life whatsoever is making you miserable, then you've got too much time on your hands. I mean, with all the awful shit in the world at the moment to actually care about this. They aren't paedophiles or rapists, unlike other members of that family.

Backedoffhackedoff · 23/08/2026 17:17

Well none of us know how it’s going to work out but tbh it doesn’t seem like a particularly tricky situation?!

Thedogscollar · 23/08/2026 17:22

Now there you go again saying you know a lot about them and are interested in them.
You do not know these people. You only know what is being fed to you by magazines newspaper and the news.
Anyway you have a nice evening. I'm off for a nice long dog walk and you can rest assured my thoughts will not be with HAM. Far more interesting things to think about.

CoffeeCantata · 23/08/2026 17:24

ginasevern · 23/08/2026 17:16

@CoffeeCantata "I am miserable to think they've come back. It was bad enough when they were thousands of miles away."

Bad enough for who? If the return of a couple of strangers that you'll never, ever meet and who don't affect your life whatsoever is making you miserable, then you've got too much time on your hands. I mean, with all the awful shit in the world at the moment to actually care about this. They aren't paedophiles or rapists, unlike other members of that family.

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Your comment is one almost word for word that I answered fully on another thread. I don’t know if it was you in the other thread?

I answered your question ( a frequent one on these threads, directed at pps discussing an OP) on that thread.

Over the years since Megxit, if I’d had a tenner for every time this question has been asked, I’d be a rich person.

Some people are interested in these shenanigans - if you’re not, walk on by.