charles saatchi aside ( fgs) - susannah constantine - 2003 called - it wants its jeans back

[LordPalmerston]

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2479751/Trinny-Woodall-invites-Susanna-Constantine-Scotts-dinner-new-beau-Charles-Saatchi.html

FFS.

OK, it might explain why an abuser asshat like CS feels it is acceptable to stick his finger up his nose.

As in, sticking your finger up someone's nose is beyond bizarre.

Well yes, but then abusers don't really need an excuse to find their abuse acceptable.

It's so classic that he's not going to sue her after all - of course he isn't, he never was. He's spread this as part of a campaign to discredit her. In a few weeks/ months there'll be more "rumours" about her - it's part of a drip drip effect so that in 10 years time when we've all forgotten the ins and outs, we'll look back and vaguely remember that there was an incident and the first thing we'll remember isn't that Charles Saatchi is a violent abuser, but that it was something to do with Nigella and drug use or something. That way in the cultural narrative it goes down as six of one and half a dozen of the other.

It really is a classic technique and it's very clever and it works - that's why he's using it.

On the provenance of the blog - it's either a very clever double bluff (and Hillgrove Circle is an offshoot of Hillgrove PR); or it is a complete fake.

Why hasn't the odious Daily Mail picked up on this if either one is true?

Well yes, but then abusers don't really need an excuse to find their abuse acceptable.

But no-one on this thread said it was acceptable, and to make out the anyone did is not fair.

Susannah in those jeans has the typical look of someone who has had liposuction as she looks out of proportion with the rest of her figure.

I'm only guessing that because she looks very similar to before and after my friend who has had lipo on her thighs, hips, stomach.

It's a very strange shape.

I am similar ish to her slim but busty and I would never wear those jeans or that top and the jacket well its horrendous for her shape. I thought this was their job. Trinny looks ok in anything as clothes are made for her size just throw it on and you look great. Dark tight jeans with a kick at the bottom are cilla black style in fact the whole outfit is.

I do like Trinny's coat!

I like her coat too but on her yes on me still would look cilla black Its not for boobs

I think Susannah looks facking dreadful. Really really bad. The jeans are horrid, the shirt is horrid, the jacket is horrid. She looks like she's been shopping in Ethel Austin.

Trinny looks ok, but just ok.

I never could understand why those two were advising other people on how to dress.

As for the hob-knobbing with CS - I think it's public image suicide to be honest. It makes them look like unsisterly abuse apologists, desperate for media attention, and it makes Trinny look so utterly desperate for a man, she will even take up with someone who was photographed physically abusing his wife in public.

Whole thing leaves a nasty taste in my mouth.

I agree and also can't see the attraction of Trinny's get up either. I have seen her in the flesh and it was about 6 yrs ago and she has had extensive stuff done very much that american duck face look

Trinny in that dirty car driving herself home after that depressing "date"...just seemed kinda pathetic, really. I guess T&S have been pretty washed up for a while now but surely they can do better than sharing Charles Saatchi? I feel sorry for both of them. Surely if this is publicity it can only backfire as I don't think any of us have become big T&S fans after this escapade?

No I agree QVC and now this. Tis over!

I don't want to be unkind but Trinny was a lovely looking woman and the surgery she has had is awful. Her head/face is so smooth she looks like a Mrs Potato head and the eyes, nose and oversized lips have been stuck on.

Why do they do it? They don't look younger or better, just smoother, puffier and bizarre.

There's no need for that plastic, rich housewives of Beverley Hills look. I have Botox and you can't tell. It just stops me from looking like a miserable piece of shit. I wouldn't have fillers and I don't want to look younger than I am, just to stop me frowning all the day long.

I resent Trinny because I listened to her when she said not to wear bias cut dresses when actually, I look bloody lovely in them.

I can't help thinking of them as Aunt Sponge and Aunt Spiker now.

I'm not making out anyone finds his violence acceptable, I'm sure on a conscious level, no-one does..

I do think it's worth pointing out however, that finding excuses for domestic violence is what we do in our culture and the usual way is to discredit the victim.

Our attitudes to DV are not linear, they're all mixed up. We condemn it while excusing it at the same time, which is why it's so prevalent and why abusers usually get away with it. It's why a respectable, beautiful woman with a public profile and a career to lose like Trinny Woodall, can even be seen out with a man who in a culture which didn't have this ambivalence to DV, would simply be a pariah.

Why did she say not to wear bias dresses btw?

I am the same shape as her (very tall however long waisted and relatively short legs) and she said bias cut was the devil as it makes you look broad in the beam even if you are slim.

Bollocks.

I found their fashion advice hit and miss tbh. Some of it was brilliant but some completely off.

Am wondering about Suzanna's tucked-in blouse. Do people do that now? For years, tucking shirts/ blouses into shirts /jeans etc. seemed to be banned but I've seen a few people do that recently and wonder if it's a trend or if they're just absent-minded...

I never never tuck things in, but a few weeks ago tucked a silky shirt into skinny jeans just out of curiosity, and it looked very flattering. I wore it all day but it felt very odd indeed to be tucked in. I looked THIN though which is always a winner.

Amusing article here

vagendamag.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/so-i-found-old-copy-of-trinny-susannahs.html

OMG found the blog. Do they think we are stupid enough to be distracted from CS physically abusing NL by frankly ridiculous drug allegations

Thanks for the link, Sunday, I'm enjoying reading through that Vagendamag - lots of thought provoking articles on there.

Charles Saatchi and T&S hooking up doesn't lend CS any credibility.

It simply confirms T&S as washed-up desperados.

To be fair to them, there were probably people who didn't put them quite in that category just yet. But by associating with CS, they've fast-tracked themselves there on a one-way ticket.

I understand that women who perhaps have self-esteem issues and who have a bad track record with deeply unsuitable men find it hard to break out of that cycle, and I don't think any reasonable person wouldn't have sympathy with that situation.

But Trinny is going into this with the blinkers off, eyes wide open, red flags waving and twunt radars flashing. Surely she has a modicum of responsbility to cop on a little bit herself.

But if publicity, the lure of OAP power and a mahoosive bank balance is enough to silence everything else, then so be it, I guess.

Whenever mumsnet gets holier-than-thou about skinny jeans I suspect you all have black or platinum hair in a sock bun.

For many, skinny jeans are a triumph of fashion over style.

Saatchi, though, there is no excuse.

I think you are all total bitches because I now really want to see that picture and decide for myself about the jeans and the coat but I'm boycotting DM links . Is there not a non-DM picture?

I went into a lovely little country church today which had an ongoing book sale, tucked away in a little corner. They had the Shades of Grey trilogy, Destiny by Sally Beaumont (shout-out to the Eighties trash-lot fans), Plays Pleasant by George Bernard Shaw, and What Not To Wear.