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Xenophobia, homophonic, transphobia

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spstchmu · Today 01:52

Are you gonna do anything about it? Like, i know the line is that shoving the madness in the feminism board means it's not transphobia. And I know it's been done to death but I'm sick of it. It's not acceptable. Xenophobia, racism and homophobia also increasing.
And no. I won't leave. This is the biggest forum of its kind and it needs to represent and respect us all. And care that it's not.

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AccidentallyWesAnderson · Today 17:26

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:24

If you cared about it, any of you, when i search the site for talk about female prisoners, it wouldnt be overwhelmingly focused on trans prisoners.

What you should all do is every time you bring up female prisoners in relation to trans women, you should donate £1 to a charity like this:

https://www.womeninprison.org.ukp

I work with female prisoners! Sit down. You know absolutely fuck all.

backformoreofthesame · Today 17:26

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:25

No id be advocating for the things they actually want me to care about, like their health and their children. Silly me, actually LISTENING to the people I claim to care about instead of some site members on the Internet who hate trans people.

Many women in prison have been the victims of male violence - they do care about that

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:27

Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 17:24

Hyperbole, emotional blackmail, whataboutery and insults is all the defenders of males in women’s spaces have. They certainly don’t have any compelling arguments or I’m sure we would have heard them by now.

I think that's you using female prisoners who you probably detest and would never associate with to further your campaign against trans people. You should be ashamed. Just say that you find them disgusting and think they shouldn't exist.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Today 17:27

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:25

No id be advocating for the things they actually want me to care about, like their health and their children. Silly me, actually LISTENING to the people I claim to care about instead of some site members on the Internet who hate trans people.

Hate boundary pushing men.

The penny will drop eventually. Or maybe not.

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:29

backformoreofthesame · Today 17:26

Many women in prison have been the victims of male violence - they do care about that

Not from trans women and they aren't the men who pose danger while you are in jail. You should care about that if prisoner safety is a real concern. Male screws who identify very much as men raping and abusing women. Staff members fucking mentally ill amd learning disabled prisoners. That kind of thing. That is every day for prisoners. Most will never see a trans woman

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:29

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Today 17:27

Hate boundary pushing men.

The penny will drop eventually. Or maybe not.

Why not care about the men that actually exist rather than the ones who simply might.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Today 17:29

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:29

Not from trans women and they aren't the men who pose danger while you are in jail. You should care about that if prisoner safety is a real concern. Male screws who identify very much as men raping and abusing women. Staff members fucking mentally ill amd learning disabled prisoners. That kind of thing. That is every day for prisoners. Most will never see a trans woman

You should not be working with vulnerable women.

Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 17:30

I can see that TRA arguments have improved not one iota in the last decade. That’s because there is no particularly convincing argument that a group of men should be classified as women.

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:30

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Today 17:26

I work with female prisoners! Sit down. You know absolutely fuck all.

If you did then youd know that trans women don't even rate on their top 100 issues. I call bullshit. Nobody who works with female prisoners would.say that this is an issue they talk.about often. You're blatantly lying about who you are.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Today 17:31

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:29

Why not care about the men that actually exist rather than the ones who simply might.

The last trans woman I met was very mentally deranged and threatened to stab his sister and mother and burn their houses down. I would not be locking him up with the women.

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:31

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callmeLoretta1 · Today 17:31

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:15

My point is that if you cared about dangerous behaviour in the public bathrooms, you'd care more about that which happens most often. Drug use is something that happens more often than trans women wanking in female toilets. Therefore, anyone who wasnt just obsessed with trans people would naturally care more about that if safety was a real concern.

Drug use only affects the user, not other women in the facility.

Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 17:31

Hashtag no debate was the best idea, because they don’t do well in fair, open debate.

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:31

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Today 17:31

The last trans woman I met was very mentally deranged and threatened to stab his sister and mother and burn their houses down. I would not be locking him up with the women.

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Yeah ok. I met Elvis in benidorm

Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 17:32

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Today 17:31

The last trans woman I met was very mentally deranged and threatened to stab his sister and mother and burn their houses down. I would not be locking him up with the women.

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If we look at some of the men around the world, including in the uk, who have been locked up with women, it’s pretty horrifying.

Shedmistress · Today 17:33

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:27

I think that's you using female prisoners who you probably detest and would never associate with to further your campaign against trans people. You should be ashamed. Just say that you find them disgusting and think they shouldn't exist.

Weirdly it was the trans lobby who specifically targeted female prisons because nobody gave a shit about women in prison. And weirdly again, it was women who had to take court case after court case to try and get this reversed.

All without you even noticing apparently.

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:33

callmeLoretta1 · Today 17:31

Drug use only affects the user, not other women in the facility.

Thats how its obvious you know fuck all about social issues.

backformoreofthesame · Today 17:33

Male officers abusing their position is bad

yes it’s unlikely that the abuse they faced outside was from a transgender person - based on absolute numbers

why does that mean that it’s ok to lock these women up with men , many of whom are convicted sex offenders?

Hasn’t there been at least one case of pregnancy caused by a transwoman prisoner ? Why is that ok?

i really hope that you are not involved in advocating for these women because you are happy to treat them with such disrespect

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Today 17:33

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:30

If you did then youd know that trans women don't even rate on their top 100 issues. I call bullshit. Nobody who works with female prisoners would.say that this is an issue they talk.about often. You're blatantly lying about who you are.

When I’m next in work I’ll ask a few how they would feel if Isla Bryson or Karen White were housed in with them. Your lack of comprehension skills and non existent understanding of basic safeguarding principles should absolutely not have you working with vulnerable women.

callmeLoretta1 · Today 17:33

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:16

Yes they have quite clearly. I think if you're used to just abusing trans people, you become desensitised to attacks on them.

If you're used to denying rape survivors like me my right to a female only changing room, you become desensitised to attacks on womens sex based rights.

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:33

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AccidentallyWesAnderson · Today 17:34

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:31

Yeah ok. I met Elvis in benidorm

That’s probably more convincing based on your posts so far.

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:34

callmeLoretta1 · Today 17:33

If you're used to denying rape survivors like me my right to a female only changing room, you become desensitised to attacks on womens sex based rights.

Im talking about prisons. Stick to the subject or dont contribute.

Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 17:35

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It really is not. It’s documented, and women went to court in Scotland only last week to force the Scottish government to respect the Equality Act. Again.

callmeLoretta1 · Today 17:35

Lexibletheflexible · Today 17:18

It's really disgusting to use female prisoners to further your anti trans agenda. None of you have ever even been to visit a woman in prison or given a penny to a charity that supports them. Imagine using vulnerable people in that way.

It's really disgusting to use female prisoners to further your anti women agenda. If you had ever visited a women's shelter or rape crisis shelter, you'd be told in no uncertain terms how males in female intimate single sex spaces traumatises victims.