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Xenophobia, homophonic, transphobia

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spstchmu · Today 01:52

Are you gonna do anything about it? Like, i know the line is that shoving the madness in the feminism board means it's not transphobia. And I know it's been done to death but I'm sick of it. It's not acceptable. Xenophobia, racism and homophobia also increasing.
And no. I won't leave. This is the biggest forum of its kind and it needs to represent and respect us all. And care that it's not.

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Lexibletheflexible · Today 09:48

ChamonixMountainBum · Today 09:47

Why the snark? If someone who is obviously male who has clearly put a lot of effort into presenting themselves as female and have adapted female pronouns it is hardly unreasonable to assume to that they are trans.

How do you know people you observe from a distance are using female pronouns?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Today 09:48

Lexibletheflexible · Today 09:48

No lots of women are fine with trans women being accepted of women, irrespective of their stage of transitioning or their plans for future procedures.

Lots are. The majority aren’t.

callmeLoretta1 · Today 09:48

Lexibletheflexible · Today 09:48

No lots of women are fine with trans women being accepted of women, irrespective of their stage of transitioning or their plans for future procedures.

No, lots of women really, really are not fine with males with penis and testicles in female only changing rooms where women and little girls are naked. No woman wants that. None.

Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 09:49

Lexibletheflexible · Today 09:48

No lots of women are fine with trans women being accepted of women, irrespective of their stage of transitioning or their plans for future procedures.

And still more women are not.

Lexibletheflexible · Today 09:49

Igneococcus · Today 09:43

One of the most outspoken opponents of putting men into women's prisons in Scotland, Rhona Hotchkiss, has spent years working in prisons as health inspector and as a governor. I take her opinion on this over random person popping up on MN making claims we can't verify any day.

What does she say about the issues female prisoners find most pertinent?

backformoreofthesame · Today 09:50

Lexibletheflexible · Today 09:48

No lots of women are fine with trans women being accepted of women, irrespective of their stage of transitioning or their plans for future procedures.

Lots perhaps - in a country of 70 million even a few percent is lots

the majority however don’t want people with penis’s considered as women in all circumstances

callmeLoretta1 · Today 09:50

@Lexibletheflexible 'Lots of women' really truly are not ok with seeing this in women and girls change rooms:

Xenophobia, homophonic, transphobia
Lexibletheflexible · Today 09:51

callmeLoretta1 · Today 09:48

No, lots of women really, really are not fine with males with penis and testicles in female only changing rooms where women and little girls are naked. No woman wants that. None.

Yes they are. Some of the people most vocal about trans rights are women. In fact, the only people I really see talking about this issue at all are women. It's only here that I see a sizeable group of women, all in one place, and against it.

callmeLoretta1 · Today 09:52

Nor this, @Lexibletheflexible https://x.com/KateBMwriting/status/2008096432771768355

ruethewhirl · Today 09:52

Completely agree with you, OP. I'm sick of it too.

Lexibletheflexible · Today 09:52

callmeLoretta1 · Today 09:52

I dont have X

callmeLoretta1 · Today 09:53

Lexibletheflexible · Today 09:51

Yes they are. Some of the people most vocal about trans rights are women. In fact, the only people I really see talking about this issue at all are women. It's only here that I see a sizeable group of women, all in one place, and against it.

This isn't about 'trans rights', this is about males exposing their penis to women and girls in the ladies changing rooms.

Lexibletheflexible · Today 09:54

Shedmistress · Today 09:40

Can we also remember that the Trans Lobby directly targeted changing prison policy to get men into female prisons, because it was thought that nobody cared about female prisoners; and if they could do it there they could replicate that anywhere.

And it seems they were right. Even someone who purportedly works with vulnerable women in prison has never heard of this and thinks it is no threat whatsoever.

No, rape by other inmates and staff members who have no problem telling you what a man they are is of more importance to prisoners going by what they seek help for.

Lexibletheflexible · Today 09:55

callmeLoretta1 · Today 09:53

This isn't about 'trans rights', this is about males exposing their penis to women and girls in the ladies changing rooms.

So we've gone to flashing now. This is getting weird. I have a meeting at 10 about actual real female prisoners and their problems. I'll go get back to that .

callmeLoretta1 · Today 09:56

Lexibletheflexible · Today 09:52

I dont have X

You can enter the url in nitter (which does not require an account) after the nitter.com/ hash stroke.

It's a shadow of a male masturbating in the ladies, and he says it's ok because he's a "transwoman". It's clear that he is with the hand movements, jerking his penis.

No woman wants to see that. Saying a male is a 'transwoman' does not excuse it.

ChamonixMountainBum · Today 09:57

Lexibletheflexible · Today 09:48

No lots of women are fine with trans women being accepted of women, irrespective of their stage of transitioning or their plans for future procedures.

Not down my sports club.

ItWasnaMeGuv · Today 09:57

spstchmu · Today 01:52

Are you gonna do anything about it? Like, i know the line is that shoving the madness in the feminism board means it's not transphobia. And I know it's been done to death but I'm sick of it. It's not acceptable. Xenophobia, racism and homophobia also increasing.
And no. I won't leave. This is the biggest forum of its kind and it needs to represent and respect us all. And care that it's not.

People here have a range of different opinions than yours, and they (like you) have a right to express them. It is a consequence of having free speech on this forum. Perhaps you should join a forum where everyone has the same opinion on everything .

Shedmistress · Today 09:58

backformoreofthesame · Today 09:45

I think it’s quite horrid that when you say that transwomen don’t belong in cells with women you are automatically accused of thinking of all transwomen as mentally impaired sex offenders , that it’s automatically assumed you wouldn’t call them by their preferred name or treat with basic respect

No, they are just men, who already have prisons designed and catered for them.

2021x · Today 09:59

Lexibletheflexible · Today 09:52

I dont have X

What do you think about my post about how the transwomen who use female spaces are an issue because they are putting their comfort/safety/sexual needs above the safety/privacy/dignity of women. This therefore leads me to think any male that uses female spaces are automatically misogynistic and are the riskiest people for women to be alone in a room with?

dizzydizzydizzy · Today 09:59

Totally agree. I particularly dislike the transphobia and the absolutism on the feminism boards. Human being are complex organisms and scientists have known for decades that sex isn’t always binary. DM was a researcher in a hospital lab in the 1960s and one of the things she was doing was looking at the chromosomes of people (not sure if babies, children, adults or all of them) in cases where it was not clear whether they were male or female. Apparently they sometimes had an extra chromosome eg XXY. I can’t remember what other abnormalities they found. Even when the chromosomes are normal-looking, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are other things that can go ‘wrong’.

callmeLoretta1 · Today 09:59

Lexibletheflexible · Today 09:55

So we've gone to flashing now. This is getting weird. I have a meeting at 10 about actual real female prisoners and their problems. I'll go get back to that .

Males getting undressed in front of females are flashing. Why do you think it's ok for males with a penis to get undressed in front of women and girls in the ladies?

Why do you think a male exposing his penis in the ladies changerooms is 'ok' because he wears a dress?

Xenophobia, homophonic, transphobia
Xenophobia, homophonic, transphobia
MilkBiscuit · Today 09:59

Surely you can just switch to reddit OP?

You know how women are told to just ignore things that make them uncomfortable? Well you can use that method yourself.

You delete one app and switch to another.

Just like having to move gyms because the old one allows men in the women’s changing room.

Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 10:00

MilkBiscuit · Today 09:59

Surely you can just switch to reddit OP?

You know how women are told to just ignore things that make them uncomfortable? Well you can use that method yourself.

You delete one app and switch to another.

Just like having to move gyms because the old one allows men in the women’s changing room.

Well said.

Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 10:01

dizzydizzydizzy · Today 09:59

Totally agree. I particularly dislike the transphobia and the absolutism on the feminism boards. Human being are complex organisms and scientists have known for decades that sex isn’t always binary. DM was a researcher in a hospital lab in the 1960s and one of the things she was doing was looking at the chromosomes of people (not sure if babies, children, adults or all of them) in cases where it was not clear whether they were male or female. Apparently they sometimes had an extra chromosome eg XXY. I can’t remember what other abnormalities they found. Even when the chromosomes are normal-looking, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are other things that can go ‘wrong’.

Sex is binary, with variation within the sexes. XXY is Klinefelters syndrome.

Shedmistress · Today 10:03

dizzydizzydizzy · Today 09:59

Totally agree. I particularly dislike the transphobia and the absolutism on the feminism boards. Human being are complex organisms and scientists have known for decades that sex isn’t always binary. DM was a researcher in a hospital lab in the 1960s and one of the things she was doing was looking at the chromosomes of people (not sure if babies, children, adults or all of them) in cases where it was not clear whether they were male or female. Apparently they sometimes had an extra chromosome eg XXY. I can’t remember what other abnormalities they found. Even when the chromosomes are normal-looking, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are other things that can go ‘wrong’.

The abnormalities are sex based, they are called Disorders of Sex Development. And there are only 2 gametes, there is no mystery 3rd, 4th or 5th sex or gamete.

And do not account for men who say they are women upon arrest just so that they get put into female jails.