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To be bored of the trans hate?

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DaisyUpsy · 10/07/2023 09:54

Ok, there are extremists (like the punch people in the face person), extremists can be found in many areas of life but is anyone else fed up of the trans stuff constantly being dragged up?

I've seen some ridiculous statements on here recently. Everything gets something added related to trans when it's totally irrelevant. It's getting boring. Trans extremists are not the norm so can we stop pretending they are?

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Conkersinautumn · 10/07/2023 10:03

I mean, apart from enjoying the train crash conspiracy theorists froth at the mouth, you're not wrong. It is an embarrassment though, because of transphobes it's not like I'd mention to anyone in RL that I use MN.

Gerrataere · 10/07/2023 10:03

DaisyUpsy · 10/07/2023 10:02

I understand some of the concerns. Unfortunately the way some (not all) people are going about things is quite extremist in itself and won't encourage anyone to listen to anything valid, it's just obliterated by the pure hatefulness.

If you in anyway agree with any ‘concerns’ then you are transphobic. There’s no ifs or buts on that.

Jigslaw · 10/07/2023 10:04

I'd say one side is much more hateful, and it's not women...

AutumnCrow · 10/07/2023 10:04

Take it up with MNHQ via Site Stuff.

Meeting · 10/07/2023 10:05

endofthelinefinally · 10/07/2023 10:03

Tipping teenaged girls into menopause 30 years too early is abuse IMO. We should be worried about it if we have any care about safeguarding children.

We should be more than worried, it's criminal.

aSofaNearYou · 10/07/2023 10:05

I understand some of the concerns. Unfortunately the way some (not all) people are going about things is quite extremist in itself and won't encourage anyone to listen to anything valid, it's just obliterated by the pure hatefulness.

I've yet to see anyone speaking actively from the other side of the debate be measured and non hateful. Have you?

This is one of the key things discouraging me from listening to pro trans activists!

endofthelinefinally · 10/07/2023 10:05

Have you read the Cass report OP?
Do you understand why the GIDS at the Tavistock was closed down?

PTSDBarbiegirl · 10/07/2023 10:05

Can we worry about the woman hate, lack of tolerance for neurodiversity and homophobia then? The fuel to the spike in trans stats lies there. We should be angry, women are now not sure if it is legal to use language to describe ourselves. Think about that!!!!!!!

Pluvia · 10/07/2023 10:06

But those trans extremists, some of whom have the ear of government (try living in Wales, where Mark Drakeford and his government are planning to bring in self-ID, like Scotland) have power. And they want women's rights. Rights that your mum and grandmother fought for.

If you're not worried, you either don't understand what this is really about — a male rights campaign in response to women's gains over the last 100 years — or you're not paying attention.

RhodaDendron · 10/07/2023 10:06

YANBU

StefanosHill · 10/07/2023 10:06

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 10/07/2023 10:00

Yanbu. Everyone is aware of the issue now. It's gone beyond "legitimate concerns" and become a hysterical moral panic. Time to move on.

True when someone says they’d like to punch women in the face, or actually do it, we should all remember this.

That righteous anger is so important for those males and we should just listen and not speak

yeh no thanks

YetAnotherSpartacus · 10/07/2023 10:07

I thought your thread was going to be about the hatred of women by the trans lobby.

I don't see any hate going the other way.

Just legitimate concern.

YABVU

Milk2SugarsAndAShotOfYourFinestValium · 10/07/2023 10:07

YANBU.

SpottyBumPony · 10/07/2023 10:07

DaisyUpsy · 10/07/2023 09:54

Ok, there are extremists (like the punch people in the face person), extremists can be found in many areas of life but is anyone else fed up of the trans stuff constantly being dragged up?

I've seen some ridiculous statements on here recently. Everything gets something added related to trans when it's totally irrelevant. It's getting boring. Trans extremists are not the norm so can we stop pretending they are?

Can you give some examples please?

RenoDakota · 10/07/2023 10:07

YANBU. I see it shoehorned into the most unrelated threads all the time and am sick of seeing it.

Milk2SugarsAndAShotOfYourFinestValium · 10/07/2023 10:08

Ffs I meant YANBU!!!

I’ve reported my own post but totally agree OP.

3dogsandarabbit · 10/07/2023 10:08

I don't care if a man wants to dress as a woman or change his name, but that doesn't make him a woman so I would still refer to him as he. Does that make me someone who "hates trans" ? If it does then so be it.

Seeitsayitsalted · 10/07/2023 10:08

RebulahConundrum · 10/07/2023 10:03

I try to avoid the whole issue because it seems too risky if you say the wrong thing, whatever the wrong thing is. I just don't understand why there is hate towards trans people when surely the real enemy is cis men abusing changes in rules that are meant to benefit trans people in order to abuse women.

Don’t start with your reasonable comments, the natives don’t like it

AutumnCrow · 10/07/2023 10:08

What's your actual complaint, @DaisyUpsy?

The way that women think? Or the way that MNHQ moderates and runs their own website?

IAmSalmaFuckingHayek · 10/07/2023 10:09

Still waiting for 5 examples of GC extremism.

Willing to bet my right arm that it won’t include:
Bomb threats
Death threats
Rape threats
Violent threats
Weaponising police against women
(Could go on and on, but you get the picture…)

SweetestOfTheSunflowers · 10/07/2023 10:09

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DaisyUpsy · 10/07/2023 10:09

Are you trans? @Gerrataere ?

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TomatoSandwiches · 10/07/2023 10:10

YABVVU, you are fed up with the wrong people.

StefanosHill · 10/07/2023 10:10

IAmSalmaFuckingHayek · 10/07/2023 10:09

Still waiting for 5 examples of GC extremism.

Willing to bet my right arm that it won’t include:
Bomb threats
Death threats
Rape threats
Violent threats
Weaponising police against women
(Could go on and on, but you get the picture…)

I’m interested too

Gerrataere · 10/07/2023 10:10

DaisyUpsy · 10/07/2023 10:09

Are you trans? @Gerrataere ?

Why do you ask? Rather than reply to any of the issues I’ve responded to you with?

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