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To be bored of the trans hate?

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DaisyUpsy · 10/07/2023 09:54

Ok, there are extremists (like the punch people in the face person), extremists can be found in many areas of life but is anyone else fed up of the trans stuff constantly being dragged up?

I've seen some ridiculous statements on here recently. Everything gets something added related to trans when it's totally irrelevant. It's getting boring. Trans extremists are not the norm so can we stop pretending they are?

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Crikeyalmighty · 10/07/2023 10:43

And sorry- I don't agree with all those saying the under30s have a different attitude. My son is 25 and him and his friends are all fed up to the back teeth of the obsession with it -

Theeyeballsinthesky · 10/07/2023 10:43

so you’re fine with the definition of women being changed from adult human female to ‘adult human female & men who feel like women’ which completely erases women to have anything for themselves

and you’re right, trans ppl are a teeny tiny proportion of the population, fewer than 1% and yet laws and language are being rewritten to redefine women to include men. It’s not about trans, it’s about women and why the fucking hell words like mother are being erased from maternity policies or women from menopause policies to accommodate a tiny amount of men. It’s almost as if everyone really does know TW are men

zerofuchsgivenTBH · 10/07/2023 10:45

@Seeitsayitsalted And yet here you are, on yet another thread this morning, making ageist comments.

Shouldn't you be somewhere being young and fabulous if this site is for oldies?

Or do you not have anything better to do? You don't need to answer that, btw.

loislovesstewie · 10/07/2023 10:45

I don't hate any trans person , I do however get fed up with
TWAW,[ no they aren't, its why they are trans]
Men saying they are trans and competing against women in sports.
Being told that men who say they are women can enter women only spaces, because above TWAW. No they aren't.
Being held to ransom by a tiny portion of the population in respect of language and the terms used for women only biological functions.
People obfuscating the whole argument by bringing in DSDs. just no!
Lesbians being told they have to have PIV sex ,because TWAW.
And lots more.
I agree with JKR, live your best life,love anyone who will love you, but don't expect the whole world to dance to your tune.
Oh and anyone who point out any of the above is transphobic !!!!
NO!!

Willyoujustbequiet · 10/07/2023 10:45

Yabu

I am bored of the appalling misogyny against females.

Trans extremists are the norm and I feel nothing but pity for the poor brainwashed kids caught in the middle.

GrinAndVomit · 10/07/2023 10:45

I’m bored of women being silenced and bullied for having serious and legitimate concerns about women’s rights.

beeskipa · 10/07/2023 10:46

YANBU. It seems like it's every third thread here at the moment. Worryingly obsessive.

whereaw · 10/07/2023 10:46

@PhantomUnicorn you can't 'choose' a new sexed body or a no-sexed body. You're male or female.

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StefanosHill · 10/07/2023 10:46

Crikeyalmighty · 10/07/2023 10:43

And sorry- I don't agree with all those saying the under30s have a different attitude. My son is 25 and him and his friends are all fed up to the back teeth of the obsession with it -

How do you feel about the violence and threats to women?

BeverlyBrook · 10/07/2023 10:47

OP what is extreme about a bunch of women wanting to talk to each other?
It's not women who are picketing, shouting, disrupting, threatening.

Best those uppity women just shut up and let the menz get on with running things eh?

NO. No no no no. Never. We have a right to protect our hard won rights.

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 10/07/2023 10:48

Nice to see that the beeeee kind brigade continue to think that ageism is absolutely fine 🙄

Blossomtoes · 10/07/2023 10:48

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You can’t help yourself, can you?

Meeting · 10/07/2023 10:49

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No he's not, he's typical for his (and mine) age group.

StefanosHill · 10/07/2023 10:49

Meeting · 10/07/2023 10:49

No he's not, he's typical for his (and mine) age group.

Are you ok with the violence and threats against women too?

GrinAndVomit · 10/07/2023 10:50

whodawhodaeho · 10/07/2023 10:37

There’s always extremes - on one end some GC people shouting that trans women are just fetishists and in the other trans activists screaming that anyone who is remotely GC is transphobic .
The reality is - most people live their life somewhere in the middle. The trans people who don’t think that trans women should compete in sport in women’s competitions for example .
Or the people who generally support trans rights but hate being called Cis or declaring pronouns.
etc

MN is an online forum therefore people come in here and say things they would never say face to face, that’s the reality.

There’s always extremes - on one end some GC people shouting that trans women are just fetishists and in the other trans activists screaming that anyone who is remotely GC…. Should be punched in the face and that male rapists and murderers should be housed in women’s prisons based solely on their say so.

The two are not comparable.

There are two groups with conflicting wants:

  1. women who want recourse to female only spaces, support, sports and intimate care
  2. males who demand to be able to access those spaces, support, sports and intimate care

Why is group 1 so easy to dismiss?
Why is group 2 so easy to prioritise?

IAmSalmaFuckingHayek · 10/07/2023 10:50

There’s plenty of evidence that transitioning men is often linked to porn use and fetish.
Reddit is a very busy hive for this, with thousands of members.

It’s far easier to deny this and stick your head on the sand than to actually do some research.

Sarahconnor1 · 10/07/2023 10:50

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Ah yes, let's dismiss women by blaming it on hormones. How edgy are you. 🙄

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CecilyP · 10/07/2023 10:50

So fed up, you started another thread! Therefore YABU

NancyDrawed · 10/07/2023 10:51

Seeitsayitsalted · 10/07/2023 10:26

There is a thread running now where people are saying trans women who chest feed need their hard drives checked

There are countless people on here who regularly try and imply trans women are sexual offenders

its disgusting

Seeitsayitsalted

If it was any other man (male human adult) posting about a baby sucking his nipples, what would you think?

That it is a man who is pretending to be a woman (whatever his motivation to do so, whether body dysmorphia or erotic cross dressing) does not take away the fact that it is all about satisfying what the man wants and nothing to do with what is best for the baby.

And I am not someone who thinks all transwomen are sex offenders, just like I don't think all men are sex offenders - but some are. Males are far more likely than females to commit sex offences - and transwomen are male.

zerofuchsgivenTBH · 10/07/2023 10:51

Younger kids don't seem so caught up from what I've observed.

The vehemence of the TRAs seems to be dying down too and no debate is well and truly over for anyone with sense.

I do think it's easy to become obsessed at either end due to algorithms constantly delivering you more of what you want to read, and that can lead to mental health issues, no doubt fuelled by the RW media who want us focussing on this and not climate breakdown caused by fossil fuels.

But I think the really avid TRAs are being gradually shut down and kids are being more closely protected thanks to experts stepping in now.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/07/2023 10:52

Considering the strong parallels between GC views and other fascist ideologies you’re not unreasonable for being bored of it, or concerned by it

Mimmymum 👍🏻 the Mermaids woman who tried to take a trans person to court for transphobic hate crime. It was thrown out. Mermaids seem to love losing in court for some reason.

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