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Husband left after row over our teenager and I feel lost

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NotTonightDeidre · 20/09/2026 08:21

DH packed his bags & left yesterday.

It basically stemmed from an argument he was having with DD(15). She was shouting/ranting/usual teen angst/vitriol.

We clashed about how best to approach her/the situation (not the first time). He thinks I'm a shit parent.

I don't know what to do. I feel sad, lost and lonely but at the same time I don't think I necessarily want him to come back either. I'm worried what the future will look like, how I will cope.

I'm swinging between thinking sod him & the feeling my world is crashing down around me.

OP posts:
katepilar · 20/09/2026 16:38

converseandjeans · 20/09/2026 08:56

Why was she shouting/being vitriolic? What started the row? To be honest neither of my teens ever shout at me & I don’t think it’s OK for teens to treat their parents like that. Maybe you took her side & he was fed up? If he was towering over her shouting then of course you should defend her. It’s hard to judge without more context.

I also think that normalising teen behavious as "usual teen vitriol" isnt doing generally any good.

leavingonajetplane76 · 20/09/2026 16:44

I can count on one hand the amount of times I've shouted at my sons and they've shouted back. I'm not proud of it but it happens. They storm off to their rooms, I would slam the living room door shut, then 30 minute later they would come down or I would go up, we'd apologise and talk rationally about what had just happened.

Mzaaaz · 20/09/2026 16:54

Aluna · 20/09/2026 15:13

No it’s not understandable. If he genuinely hadn’t, and she must have had some reason to think he had, then I don’t see how this has escalated into him shouting a teenage girl. It’s completely unacceptable.

You can’t see how it escalated? He might have been sitting down watching TV and she came barging into the room screaming HOW DARE YOU GO INTO MY ROOM??? Now he may well have responded calmly to start and replied with excuse me I haven’t been in your room. YES YOU HAVE I CAN TELL HOW DARE YOU!!!!! And any time is he tried to respond was met with her screaming over him. I truly believe there is nothing wrong with shouting back at this point. She is a teenager not a 6 month old. Is it ideal? Maybe not. But parents are human. And quite frankly responding to being screamed at by calmly pussyfooting around her isn’t teaching her how most humans respond. If she started screaming like that at a friend or partner in the future and accusing them of things they hadn’t done while in their own house and not believing them when they denied it I think most people would start shouting back. If you don’t want to get screamed at, don’t scream first is the answer. Being a man doesn’t mean he needs to tolerate all manner of screaming vitriol directed at him in his own home.

Tanjamaltija · 20/09/2026 16:56

...or ,aybe he was waiting for an excuse to leave. Surely he had an idea where he was going, if he packed bags and did not just leave with a haversack?

House12 · 20/09/2026 17:00

IkeaJesusChrist · 20/09/2026 16:14

Of course, see how she fucking likes it living in a pig pen and avoiding school.

Teenagers screaming abuse at their parents seems to be oddly accepted by certain Mumsnet users, if I ever did that to either of my parents they would have reacted with fury and I wouldn't be sitting down for a week.

OP's husband said he hadn't been in her bedroom, even if he had it wouldn't justify his daughter screaming at him.

You sound f—king awful, and a shining example of what happens if you beat your kids.

IkeaJesusChrist · 20/09/2026 17:01

House12 · 20/09/2026 17:00

You sound f—king awful, and a shining example of what happens if you beat your kids.

I wasn't beaten, but I also didn't scream abuse at my parents.

Stormyrose · 20/09/2026 17:05

Please ignore the cheating crowd, there are some people in here who can’t think of anything but, it’s tragic.

op. He sounds like a controlling arse who is struggling with his daughter growing up and not being under his control

for uour daughters sake I would keep him gone.

Stormyrose · 20/09/2026 17:06

IkeaJesusChrist · 20/09/2026 17:01

I wasn't beaten, but I also didn't scream abuse at my parents.

Did your parents scream abuse at you?

Failedcrunchymum · 20/09/2026 17:09

Gosh, I don't have much advice but I just want to say your DD and DH sound so much like mine, my heart goes out to you cos I know how this feels. I'd be feeling the same as you so my advice is to make the most of the peace and quiet of him leaving so everyone calms down, and decide what to say / do when he comes back. I'm currently trying to sort out some therapy to resolve some communication issues, but my DH isn't really communicating enough to discuss it, ironically.

IkeaJesusChrist · 20/09/2026 17:10

Stormyrose · 20/09/2026 17:06

Did your parents scream abuse at you?

Nope but like I said, I didn't scream abuse at them in the first place.

I'm not sure what you're trying to get at,the DD started screaming at her dad and he responded in kind, probably after initially denying her assertions that he'd been in her bedroom.

Stormyrose · 20/09/2026 17:22

IkeaJesusChrist · 20/09/2026 17:10

Nope but like I said, I didn't scream abuse at them in the first place.

I'm not sure what you're trying to get at,the DD started screaming at her dad and he responded in kind, probably after initially denying her assertions that he'd been in her bedroom.

But that’s not what the op said is it, she never said who started screaming first, in your rush to blame the female child and absolve the adult male screaming at a child you made that up

IkeaJesusChrist · 20/09/2026 17:26

Stormyrose · 20/09/2026 17:22

But that’s not what the op said is it, she never said who started screaming first, in your rush to blame the female child and absolve the adult male screaming at a child you made that up

Half this thread is full of posters making up shit in support of either DD or her dad.

Stormyrose · 20/09/2026 17:27

IkeaJesusChrist · 20/09/2026 17:26

Half this thread is full of posters making up shit in support of either DD or her dad.

So you thought you’d do the same so you could blame the female child and absolve the grown ass man?

IkeaJesusChrist · 20/09/2026 17:31

Stormyrose · 20/09/2026 17:27

So you thought you’d do the same so you could blame the female child and absolve the grown ass man?

Not particularly no, but seeing as many posters are sticking the boot into the man based on fuck all I thought I'd do the same and at the same time question why a teenage girl screaming vitriol at either parent was acceptable for a section of posters?

Beenwhereyouareagain · 20/09/2026 17:37

Regardless of the other things going on, it sounds as though your daughter is having extreme difficulty dealing with issues in her life. If she's ND (and it sounds likely) there's a good possibility that she also has Rejection Sensitivity Dysregulation. Click on "see more" for a more complete description. (Your husband may have RSD too.)

RSD can make handling conflict or criticism extremely difficult, not just in this situation but throughout a person's life. I realize a Google search result is not evidence, but the explanation and resources it gives are very good. Although ADHD is the most-used condition associated, RSD can also go along with Autism, Bipolar disorder, BPD, and other ND conditions.

Please check out the link and the associated articles and explanations; you might recognize some things that are similar to what you're seeing at home.

It's probable that your daughter is struggling with her mental health. Being a teen is hard enough without additional ND issues. From what I see on MN, it's often difficult to get timely help with MH in the UK. You shouldn't wait for the NHS; your family needs help now. I don't know if private treatment is doable for you, but there are some really good sites to get help with your family situation. These organizations and the NHS information can offer help now. There are also some good YouTube videos or Spotify podcasts on the subject.

This YouTube Short has a good introduction to the subject. After watching this, my husband wanted to learn more.

Please at least look at the first link. I hope things improve for you and your family very soon. 💙

Sxwer · 20/09/2026 17:41

This won't change and her mental health could really suffer.
I am very very house proud but have had to STFU about the bedrooms and respect their space.
Every so often I ask for a clean up....aka....clear the floor and mountain of clothes, which they do eventually.
It is not worth a screaming distressed child.

Best he doesn't come home if he feels the need to go at her.

malificent7 · 20/09/2026 17:44

Wow...amazed at all these teens who NEVER shout!!

dippy567 · 20/09/2026 17:52

So shes supposed to self regulate, at 15 with lots of emotions and hormones going on, but your husband (a grown man) thinks ok for him to be screaming and shouting and not able to self regulate?!

Have had this issue in our house with my husband. All it serves to do is escalate things and then I'm parenting kids plus husband. No point engaging with a teen who is all worked up (in fight or flight) ...only thing that works is staying calm and discuss when everyone is calm. My husband also things im too soft for taking this approach (and I don't always manage to stay calm tbh)

What has helped a bit is making him watch some pod casts - calm parenting or those aimed at teens. For ages he said he would but never did!! But since he has it has helped a bit.

Stormyrose · 20/09/2026 18:04

IkeaJesusChrist · 20/09/2026 17:31

Not particularly no, but seeing as many posters are sticking the boot into the man based on fuck all I thought I'd do the same and at the same time question why a teenage girl screaming vitriol at either parent was acceptable for a section of posters?

Lovely. You get in there and stick the boot into this young girl whose father tries to control her and screams abuse at her. Enjoy.

EveryoneUsingOutro · 20/09/2026 18:08

sittingonabeach · 20/09/2026 09:26

If he thinks you are such a shit parent why is he leaving DD with you?

Well quite. While he storms off to have his mantrum. Such a great example. Confused

Daftypants · 20/09/2026 18:32

I think he’s in the wrong here .
I read your posts and it seems like it all escalated when it didn’t need to .
I am familiar with this sort of thing but DH just takes himself off even just to a different room / man cave .
You’re right not to sweat the small stuff .
messy room , different makeup not a hill to die on

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 20/09/2026 19:03

THisbackwithavengeance · 20/09/2026 12:50

Of course it’s not right. But then you sit down as a couple and discuss how to handle it. Not kick off and storm out.

Too much whatabouttery and yeah buts.. on this thread.

YOU DO NOT STORM OUT. Whether or not he thinks the OP is the world’s shittest parent. She’s not by the way because he is.

I posted before any more context was added.

I see the OP tried to let the situation calm before trying to deal with it. That’s a good approach. However, I still won’t accept anyone shouting at me. My DD2 is nearly 6, we’re undergoing neurodiversity investigations and she struggles with her emotions. She shouts and we don’t accept that. She’s allowed to have big feelings and we will help her but not whilst she is shouting at us. Most people won’t accept being shouted at by an adult so it’s our responsibility to help her cope with her emotions in a better way.

The DH sounds like a shit parent with the updates but, again, I didn’t have any context when I posted.

SandyHappyPerson · 20/09/2026 19:25

NotTonightDeidre · 20/09/2026 13:41

Interesting how people are assuming DD went in & started the argument. I don't know exactly how it started as I wasn't in the house, and neither were you.

By "vitriol" I mean she was saying thst she hates us, the DS & DD2 are our priority, nobody cares about her etc.

I suggested DH ignore her until she (and he) had calmed down. Screaming accusations and insults gets nowhere and trying to have a conversation in the moment is pointless.

I'm not perfect, I know I'm not, but I'm trying my best. There is lots more going on but a lot of it would be outing.

I'd love to be a parent who had a teen that followed the rules 24/7 & never had an issue. Thankfully in my real world I know I'm not the only parent struggling with their teen DC's behaviour.

Interesting how people are assuming DD went in & started the argument.

No one is assuming anything, you told us what started the argument, so people have taken your word for it

It basically stemmed from an argument he was having with DD(15). She was shouting/ranting/usual teen angst/vitriol.

The argument started because DD thought DH had been in her room/messing with her room door whilst she & I were out.

Now you have said she was screaming accusations at him.. I'm sorry OP, but whatever her troubles are, she is way out of line.

Summer26woohoo · 20/09/2026 19:39

I detest the old trope that teenagers screaming, ranting and shouting awful things like 'I hate you' or to fuck off or whatever is 'normal teen behaviour'.

No, no it's not. Barring significant additional needs, in every single case i've seen of this, it's the cumulative effect of years of failure to put your bloody foot down.

At age 2 you see toddlers smacking their parents in the face and parents ignoring it. At 5 you see them saying 'no' or demanding something and getting it, whilst parents chuckle and exclaim what a little diva they are. At 10 they start ignoring instructions, slamming doors and speaking to parents in an unpleasant tone, and it's ignored.

At 15...well, you get a screaming, ranting terror who hurls abuse at you because they know there's fuck all boundary to stop them.

jacks11 · 20/09/2026 19:40

I think it is perfectly acceptable to have rules and boundaries, even for teens. Life is not a free for all it’s also not controlling to have standards children and teens are expected to adhere to. My teens are expected to keep their room reasonably tidy- not a show room, but there is an acceptable standard of cleanliness we expect them to maintain. Washing put into wash basket, not lying on the floor. Clean clothes put away properly, not in messy piles on the floor. Mugs/glasses/plates taken down to be cleaned, bins emptied appropriately, no rotting food, for example. They have chores they must do. Standards of behaviour in communal living areas- basically, tidy up after yourself. If you use the last of something- make it known. None of it onerous or unreasonable. I don’t expect the house to be spotless, just basic standards of cleanliness
and tidiness, which shows respect for those they live with. It is also not negotiable. We actually don’t have that many rules, but those we do have are quite firm.

if they chose not to abide by the rules, then there are consequences- so they can chose not to keep their room to an acceptable standard and they can chose not to complete their chores…. But they know what the consequences are. Do they rebel on occasion? Yep, of course. And have we been called unfair/dictators etc- again, yes. Have they lost their temper on more than one occasion? yes of course they have. Have they broken rules? Absolutely. My dd with adhd probably less so than her risk taking, reactive sister. My DS’s have also both definitely had their moments. But I absolutely would not tolerate regular outbursts of vitriol or failure to follow basic rules. I think you have to be careful with the “don’t sweat the small stuff”- it depends on your definition of “the small stuff”, for one- and secondly, if they can’t (or are not expect to) stick to any of the fairly easy to adhere to rules why would you expect them to respect rules that are harder/less to their liking?

all of that said, we have a very close relationship relationship and probably more relaxed rules about a lot of things than some of my friends. My DC say they absolutely know we would have their back if anything went wrong and they could come to us and we’d help- even if we thought they were in the wrong/been an idiot/are the author of their own misfortune. I’m not perfect and I have definitely shouted and lost my temper with them on occasion. As has DH. We are all human, we all get it wrong. Children deserve to be listened to, but ultimately hierarchy does matter, I think- it changes as they get older and show they have earned the right to more independence and autonomy.

my DH has walked in on an argument between myself and DD1, we were both shouting and dd was being really quite unpleasant. His automatic response was “dd, no matter how angry you are, you do not speak to your mother like that. Stop it now. Please go and calm down”. It wasn’t to tell me off in front of her- though he did ask what had happened later and pointed out this probably wasn’t my finest moment (and he did not lecture me or opine in his superior ideas of parenting). You need to present a united front, unless your dh is being outrageous (unlike other posters, I’m not convinced he was). Otherwise she will learn to divide and conquer.

it sounds to me like you aren’t on the same page regarding parenting. You each ignore things the other thinks is important, and you both seem fairly entrenched in the idea that your way is 100% right and the others viewpoint is inferior. You undermine each other, possibly allowing your dd to you off against each other, however unconsciously- children and teens are very good at finding these weaker links. I think going forward, regardless of whether you end your relationship- unless you are not planning to co-parent with him at all- you do need to have a better agreement as to how you are going to parent. That might mean you don’t do things 100% your way, 100% of the time.