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He says I am not single, but will not see me

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evh1978 · 18/07/2026 07:17

I met a man two years ago through a mutual friend. We became good friends very quickly and, because of the circumstances at the time, spent most of that summer seeing each other as friends almost every day.
I was in the middle of a very dark period of my life, with a huge amount of change and emotional upheaval. I freely acknowledge that it was probably the worst period of my life. I was about as far away from the real me as I could possibly have been when he met me.
At the end of the summer, I returned to where I lived and slowly had to start rebuilding my life.
He was there.
Every day.
Phone calls. WhatsApp messages.
He was always very practically minded. He never let me wallow in the emotion of it all. He would call to see whether I had showered. Over time, as I rebuilt, he helped me find the tools I needed to rebuild my life rather than trying to do it for me.
I had been through things that left me with significant trauma and a profound loss of trust. I had stopped trusting almost everyone. He knew the full extent of what had happened and had been one of the very few people I allowed close to me.
I am a highly expressive and emotional person. I feel my way through life using emotions and language. I think in long form. I analyse everything.
I am also, I think, highly emotionally intelligent. I am very attuned to my own emotions and to the emotions of other people. I can usually see what is happening underneath a conversation, and I tend to want to talk about it.
He is almost the opposite.
He is pragmatic, grounded and emotionally contained. He tends to look at a problem and ask what can be done about it. I tend to want to understand what it means, why it happened and what is happening underneath it.
He also struggles with my emotionality. He frequently criticises the way I feel things or the intensity with which I express them. He has told me that he hates feeling responsible for other people's feelings.
I have tried to explain to him that there is a difference between being responsible for somebody else's feelings and being responsible for the impact of our behaviour on someone we are in an intimate relationship with.
We do not get to behave however we like and then say that someone else's feelings are entirely their own problem.
He has been married twice. From what he has told me, both marriages involved him being emotionally distant and unavailable in ways he now recognises. He has described himself as someone who has historically struggled with emotional intimacy.
I have wondered whether he has an avoidant attachment style, although I am very aware that people are far too fond of diagnosing everyone as avoidant simply because they don't behave in the way we want them to.
What makes him difficult to understand is that he is not generally distant from me.
In fact, the opposite is true.
He is extraordinarily present in my life. He talks to me constantly. He is often the first and last person I speak to in a day. He will spend hours talking to me. He has been there through some of the most difficult things I have ever experienced.
So I don't think the simple explanation is that he is an emotionally unavailable man who doesn't want intimacy.
He seems to want an enormous amount of intimacy with me.
The difficulty appears to be that he is much more comfortable with intimacy when it remains within certain boundaries that he controls.
He can be deeply emotionally connected to me through conversation. He can be intensely sexually intimate with me remotely. He can be incredibly present and involved in my daily life.
But real-life romantic intimacy seems to activate something different in him.
That is the contradiction I cannot resolve.
We became extremely close, although after that summer our friendship was conducted almost entirely over the phone and WhatsApp.
The few short relationships I tried during that period all had one undercurrent of a problem: the man I was seeing would eventually feel threatened by my friendship with him.
Not because they were insecure men, necessarily. But because of how heavily I lean on my friend and how present he is and was in my day-to-day life.
One of these short relationships was with a man who lived overseas. I would fly to see him regularly. But my friend was the person I would text:
Let me know you've landed.
I've landed safely.
I'm in an Uber now.
I recognise that this is probably backwards.
Anyway, fast forward to the start of this year.
I was finally in a better place. Not fixed or healed, but definitely further forward.
There has always been a level of chemistry and attraction between us, but it had never been acted upon.
Earlier this year, however, he started to drive our relationship in that direction.
I followed.
In trust.
We ended up becoming very sexually intimate remotely, through phone calls, WhatsApp and video calls. Every day. Our level of contact grew even more. I did the maths once. We averaged around 300 messages a day.
Every day.
Plus phone calls.
Plus video calls.
Plus the sexual intimacy.
I had known him for two years by this point. I trusted him more than I trusted almost anyone. I had allowed myself to become emotionally and sexually intimate with the person who had been the safest and most constant person in my life.
And, inevitably, I fell in love with him.
Naturally, I asked him what we now were.
We were both scared of losing the friendship. It was agreed that we weren't friends with benefits. It was agreed that we weren't just friends.
For all intents and purposes, we were in a relationship.
But he struggled immensely with that title.
I was at a work event once and met a man there. We got on very well. He asked for my number and asked whether I was single.
I honestly didn't know what to say.
So I told my friend that night what had happened.
There is something else that is important to understand about this relationship: there is an extraordinary amount of honesty between us. Probably more from me. He is much more guarded, although he has opened up considerably over time.
He has more insight into my day-to-day life than I have into his.
Anyway, I asked him:
Am I single?
Eventually, he said no.
But it was a very begrudging no.
It did not come easily to him.
Seeing each other in person, however, has been a struggle.
I wanted to desperately. But he always had multiple reasons why we couldn't.
To be clear, we live around two hours apart. One motorway separates us. We both drive. He keeps an apartment in London for work purposes. I live in London.
He does have a demanding job. He is a single parent. He has complicated circumstances involving his parents' health and a dog. But he co-parents well with his son's mother and, while his logistics are undoubtedly complicated, I would not say they are more complicated than those of an average 53-year-old man with a demanding life.
For context, he has never had a fling or a one-night stand. He has only ever been with a relatively small number of women, all in serious, long-term relationships.
He struggles deeply with emotional intimacy.
So we coasted along for a while, but inevitably I started asking why he wouldn't see me.
I had been immensely vulnerable with him sexually, digitally, but I was increasingly scared that I was simply a digital plaything.
I had never agreed to that.
I repeatedly told him that I would not have entered into the sexual side of our relationship if I believed it was going to remain purely digital. I was very clear that, for me, it was heading towards a relationship that existed in real life.
He repeatedly reassured me that I wasn't a digital plaything.
He told me that he wanted to translate what we had into real life.
But we have met once.
In all this time, we have met once: one afternoon at his flat in London, where he was still working.
We had lunch.
We did not have sex.
It was incredibly confusing for me.
We made a plan to meet the following week.
He cancelled.
We made another plan for the week after.
He cancelled that too.
I have repeatedly tried to ask him, calmly and directly, what he actually wants.
I have not demanded declarations of undying love or issued ultimatums. I have tried to ask for clarity in what I believe are kind and healthy ways.
But whenever I ask for clarity, he becomes defensive and shuts down. I end up frustrated, and then the conversation becomes about my frustration rather than the question I originally asked.
I have also tried giving him space, hoping that if I stopped asking and allowed him room, he would come towards me himself with some clarity.
That doesn't work either.
I have told him explicitly that I do not do well living in confusion. I have told him that if he is not able to be in a relationship with me, I would rather know.
I have given him repeated opportunities, with dignity and without drama, to walk away.
I have said, in essence: if this is not what you want, you can tell me. I will be hurt, but I would rather have the truth than continue living in ambiguity.
He has always stayed.
He has told me he will never leave me.
But I have also told him that, now that our friendship has crossed into what it is, I will never be able to return to simply being friends.
I love him too deeply.
The contradiction is that he tells me he cannot commit, but also tells me that I am not single and that he will never leave me.
He tells me he wasn't ready for a relationship, but that I came along and changed things for him.
He tells me he cannot give me a relationship, but does not want to lose me.
He wants the emotional and sexual intimacy of what we have, but becomes defensive when I ask what it actually means.
He is, in many ways, a walking contradiction.
And I have reached the point where I don't know whether I am being compassionate towards somebody who is genuinely frightened and emotionally limited, or whether I am allowing somebody to keep me in a situation that is profoundly painful because I love him.
This is not, in my view, a love-language issue.
If he were a man I had met on Bumble and this were the beginning of our relationship, I would be running a mile in the other direction.
I would probably be warning every other woman I knew to stay away.
The difficulty is that he is not a man I met on Bumble.
He is the man who was there when I was at the lowest point in my life.
He is the man who helped me rebuild.
He is the person I have spoken to every day for two years.
He is the person I trusted enough to become vulnerable with.
He is also the person who now seems unable or unwilling to give me clarity about the relationship he helped create.
On his most recent cancellation of our plans, I asked him to propose another day.
He point-blank refused.
I found this incredibly difficult. My position was that, in my experience, when you cancel plans with someone, you apologise and propose an alternative if you actually want to see them.
He did not.
When I explained why I found that hurtful and confusing, he called me controlling.
That was a significant moment for me.
I do not believe that asking somebody who has cancelled plans to suggest another day is controlling.
I believe it is a normal expectation of somebody who wants to maintain a relationship.
I am now in a period of no contact with him because I simply could not tolerate the ambiguity and the repeated disrespect of my time any longer.
I love him deeply. On many levels.
And if I am brutally honest, I wonder whether the intensity of my attachment to him is partly a consequence of the role he played in helping me survive and rebuild.
He was there when I was at my lowest.
He became the person I trusted most.
He became part of my daily life and my emotional world.
That makes walking away extraordinarily difficult.
Leaving him and walking away from everything we have would cause me significant emotional damage.
Given everything I have already been through, that is not a prospect I am taking lightly.
But I also cannot see a way forward.
And I am now beginning to wonder whether he ever actually intended to make this relationship physical.
Perhaps he genuinely meant it whenever he said he wanted to.
Perhaps he believed he would eventually be able to do it.
Perhaps he loves me in whatever way he is capable of loving somebody.
But perhaps, in practical terms, he has created a relationship that gives him almost everything he wants while allowing him to avoid the one thing I need.
A relationship that exists in reality.
So what exactly is happening here?
Am I looking at a man who genuinely loves me but is terrified of real-life intimacy?
Am I looking at a man who has created a relationship that gives him all the emotional and sexual intimacy he wants without requiring him to take the risks of a real relationship?
Am I being manipulated, even if he does not consciously intend to manipulate me?
Or am I somehow both right?
And perhaps the most difficult question is this:
If somebody genuinely loves you, but is unable or unwilling to give you the relationship you need, does the reason ultimately matter?

I am waking up every day now, and my overriding feeling is that I feel used. And defective. I feel like I am not good enough for him to want in real life and I was only ever good enough for some digital fun. But what an elaborate route to get there for him....

OP posts:
RoseField1 · 18/07/2026 09:58

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 08:37

Hi all. I'm just going to read replies now. For clarity, I wrote it. I'm a professional a writer so do tend to get locked down in the detail. Will take the point it's long. Sorry x

If you're a professional writer and you wrote that, then I would avoid reading anything AI generated in future! It's clearly having a detrimental influence on your writing style.

SpaceRaccoon · 18/07/2026 09:59

Way, way too long, no paragraphs make it a real challenge to read, and dude you are SUCH an overthinker.

Sess249 · 18/07/2026 09:59

Tell him that this half way land is making you very very upset. Tell him you need to see immediate steps towards him meeting you in real life every week (two evenings a week?) every other weekend when his ex has the kid? Being in a virtual - long distance relationship isn’t working for you and if he’s not going to make it a real relationship where you see each other regularly you will need to break up for your own wellbeing.

omghereistrouble · 18/07/2026 10:00

I did read your long message twice it was very complex.
To be frank red flags were waving really quickly.
It seems that this man has built up a fantasy relationship and the odds are he is committed already. It is unlikely he is a single parent if he does indeed have a a child. More than likely as other people have said he is probably married.
This could be the reason why he will not meet again or want to be intimate. At least if you are not intimate you are not being unfaithful. Believe me that has been said to me on more than one time.
I think it is time to be alone and spend time being alone. Think what you actually want and need. See your Dr please perhaps to arrange counselling he is the one person who needs to see and help you with depression.
Get in touch with women's aid who will be able to help you sort out about relationships they do a great recovery program to help know what is what about men
Most of all good luck

Lougle · 18/07/2026 10:03

@evh1978 your title shows that this is a bad relationship for you. He doesn't get to tell you whether you're single. You're single. He isn't committing to you. You deserve more.

Itsthewoluff · 18/07/2026 10:05

He either has problems performing in bed so is scared that will get exposed, or he’s using you as an emotional crutch for himself. “Saviour syndrome” or something.
The former you need to ask directly. The latter, you need to protect yourself and pull the plug. It’s not fair of him.

daisychain01 · 18/07/2026 10:06

Sess249 · 18/07/2026 09:59

Tell him that this half way land is making you very very upset. Tell him you need to see immediate steps towards him meeting you in real life every week (two evenings a week?) every other weekend when his ex has the kid? Being in a virtual - long distance relationship isn’t working for you and if he’s not going to make it a real relationship where you see each other regularly you will need to break up for your own wellbeing.

Bad advice!!!

You do realise your advice makes the OP even more vulnerable to this abuser?
do you really think it's good to encourage the OP to try and become even more embroiled in a relationship with someone who has shown her who he really is and what he's capable of. She needs to escape, not get closer to him!

Bikergran · 18/07/2026 10:07

Christ on a bike. Why and how have either of you had the time for all this? Do you not have lives to lead? Do you ever (for instance) go to work, cook a meal, do the washing. I don't know about "emotionally intelligent" but I'm exhausted just reading this saga....and I'm a speed reader!

Sess249 · 18/07/2026 10:08

daisychain01 · 18/07/2026 10:06

Bad advice!!!

You do realise your advice makes the OP even more vulnerable to this abuser?
do you really think it's good to encourage the OP to try and become even more embroiled in a relationship with someone who has shown her who he really is and what he's capable of. She needs to escape, not get closer to him!

I was thinking there is no way this wanker will actually take steps to show up and the OP can then move on with her life knowing she’s asked for what she needs and wants. I’m a huge believer in asking for what you need and also that boundaries are for yourself - you can’t control other people but can control your reactions. 🤷‍♀️ maybe you are right

B206 · 18/07/2026 10:09

Fromage11 · 18/07/2026 08:45

Hi OP - I think my brain works a bit like yours and I don’t think this is AI to reassure you. I often see posts on here and people say ‘oh it’s too long’ which I don’t think is entirely fair, people have poured their heart out, give them some grace.
With regards to your situation. I’ve had a very similar one. I wanted it to work, I gave it more time than I should, I was completely detached from my real world because I was so attached to this remote relationship. I’d say it was the hardest break up, and it was the one i took the longest to get over. But honestly, it’s not ok for him to expect your attention but not your presence. Time to step away. Someone can be there for you in rough times, doesn’t mean you have to sacrifice good times for them too.

It isn't the length alone that makes this look like AI - it's stylistically very similar to the kind of AI supported posts social media "content creators" and astroturfing marketers produce (except that the paragraphing usually makes those posts more readable).

If she did write it entirely herself (rather than ask AI to rewrite something she entered) she's been spending too much time with a chatbot using therapy prompts. A shockingly large number of women in their 20s and 30s use chatbots as therapists - engage with them like that all day and you may well start unconsciously mimicking the style.

SurferRona · 18/07/2026 10:09

Oh my. Too much OP, just waaaay too much. I would run a mile were you to be this intense irl 🫨

From what I could bear to read and follow, it’s not a real life relationship, is it? Distant mutual masturbation online/on video even dressed up with other contact does not a relationship make.

No point worrying, navel gazing, analysing…. This isn’t real and doesn’t have legs- even if your emotions are real. Sorry but I think you are deluding yourself.

He has had a real life relationship before, marriage, children. So he could do that with you if he wanted to. He doesn’t. He’s just not into you to the extent you are with him.

Cut him away, end it and move on. It’s going nowhere, don’t waste your time.

Quitelikeit · 18/07/2026 10:10

I was shocked to read you have met him once

You do need to actually spend physical time with a person to see if you click - it’s truly not the same when you are communicating in the way you have been

The fact he has been married twice before but is very reluctant to be physically present in your life is so bizarre I can only assume he is not that into you

I find it further bizarre how you entered into various relationships with others during this time and he showed no emotion about that - jealousy etc

Spacedsunshine1 · 18/07/2026 10:11

Stay no contact. Just because he was there for you two years ago does not mean you owe him. He is not in any way offering the type of relationship you want. Walk away and do not look back, he will not change.

Aluna · 18/07/2026 10:12

I got bored halfway through.

Essentially you’re a cheap version of OF. So ditch the cybersex guy and find a man who actually wants to be in a relationship.

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 10:14

Helgirl666 · 18/07/2026 09:18

OP. I read everything you said very carefully as I would expect anyone responding to also do. Frankly if people expect you to take on board their advice the least they could do is take the time to read your post in full.

You are clearly a very emotionally aware individual in may ways but also appear to be down playing ur dependence and obsession with this man. You come across as very intense and a little 'bunny boiler.'

He clearly has been using you as a free version of 'only fans' and has no intention of this being an in the flesh relationship.

Switch off your devices and return to the real world x

Edited

Thank-you. Just out of interest what is the bit that is needy.
I have obviously examined my behaviour a lot and pressure tested what I wanted and said etc.

The ironic thing is, is that whilst there was always chemistry, I'd been very happy with it just being friendship, I hadn't really considered another possibility. So when he drove it into the territory it is now, I was surprised but, yes, did follow as he had my trust. He said that he'd always known he had feelings for me and watching me over the past couple of years attempting other relationships was painful for him....
I'm just so cross as I was happy when we were just friends.

OP posts:
Gwenhwyfar · 18/07/2026 10:14

HotinJapantonight · 18/07/2026 08:17

That was War & Peace but I think the upshot is that he doesn't want a formal relationship with you. You come across as being incredibly needy and he's given you as much as he's prepared to.

He's also being a bit dog in the manger with regards to you seeing someone else. You really need to put some distance between you so you can see your relationship with more clarity.

At 300 messages a day, he's just as needy!

Slightyamusedandsilly · 18/07/2026 10:15

AI simulation using 10 words where 1 (or less) would do.

CamillaMcCauley · 18/07/2026 10:15

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 08:37

Hi all. I'm just going to read replies now. For clarity, I wrote it. I'm a professional a writer so do tend to get locked down in the detail. Will take the point it's long. Sorry x

As a professional editor, I can advise that your work will be massively improved by cutting to the chase, and the same applies to your relationship. You are getting so lost in the details that you cannot see the wood for the trees. This man cannot and will not give you what you want.

Gwenhwyfar · 18/07/2026 10:16

WhatNextImScared · 18/07/2026 08:47

Absolutely this. He is not available to you. He highly likely to have a whole other life he is withholding from you. Move on.

What other life does he have time to have with 300 messages a day plus being a father and having a job?
I think the pp's suggestion that he has performance issues in person is more likely than he's married or got another woman.

Ved · 18/07/2026 10:16

Runsaway · 18/07/2026 09:08

I honestly thought you must be in your 20s. It’s all very teenage drama.

He just doesn’t want a relationship with you and he doesn’t want to be with you. He’s using you. He’s probably married.

This. ^ I struggled with the OP (nearly two and a half thousand words long!) and think the poster must have used ChatGPT for this. Still, as others have said @evh1978 this is all very teen angst and I'm surprised that you're nearly 50. (I'm guessing 1978 is your birth year, and you say you have been a writer or 30 years so you have to be nearly 50/around 50.)

Just nudge this man out of your life and focus on yourself. This is all so pointless, crying, and mooning over a man who is just awful to you. I bet he's older too. Probably keeping you hanging around so he can have a carer when he's older, or a carer for his mother.

Stop letting yourself be treated like this!

FatCatPyjamas · 18/07/2026 10:18

The relationship doesn't meet your needs. That's all there is to it.

Tying yourself in knots trying to understand him, his motivations, his emotions, his relationship style etc is only doing one thing; blocking you from showing up for yourself. Stop asking him what you are and what the relationship is. How he views things literally doesn't matter. What matters is if it's practically and emotionally working for you, and it isn't. Set some boundaries for yourself and stick to them. You will never get what you want from him.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 18/07/2026 10:19

So, my personality and experiences are similar to yours, OP. Introspection is an important part of learning to function healthily.

There comes a time when you have to do less introspection. You can get bogged down in your feelings. At a certain point you have to actively choose to live on the surface, only going deeper when there’s a real confusion that needs to be untangled. We waste a lot of time and energy when we keep going deeper.

RosaMundi27 · 18/07/2026 10:19

I'll keep it short:
You need to get a life, you need to get off your phone and communicate with people and situations in person.
You need a hobby, you need friends, real ones.
And yes, you were used, and you used him too.
This relationship is never ever going to be what you want - real intimacy is achieved in real life and this man seems incapable of it and tbh, your willingness to enter into a digital relationship of such intensity suggests that you also have problems with intimacy - your boundaries seem very poor.

bettyrubble99 · 18/07/2026 10:19

FannyCraddocksPantry · 18/07/2026 07:24

Can you summarise in a paragraph?

She's "broken", he semi "fixed her", they texted alot, had phone sex, met up, didn't shag, he didn't want to see her again. That's about it.

RoseOliviaAu · 18/07/2026 10:19

You’re not as emotionally intelligent as you think you are - he isn’t in love with you. If anything, I’d say he’s in a relationship with someone else who he lIves with.

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