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He says I am not single, but will not see me

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evh1978 · 18/07/2026 07:17

I met a man two years ago through a mutual friend. We became good friends very quickly and, because of the circumstances at the time, spent most of that summer seeing each other as friends almost every day.
I was in the middle of a very dark period of my life, with a huge amount of change and emotional upheaval. I freely acknowledge that it was probably the worst period of my life. I was about as far away from the real me as I could possibly have been when he met me.
At the end of the summer, I returned to where I lived and slowly had to start rebuilding my life.
He was there.
Every day.
Phone calls. WhatsApp messages.
He was always very practically minded. He never let me wallow in the emotion of it all. He would call to see whether I had showered. Over time, as I rebuilt, he helped me find the tools I needed to rebuild my life rather than trying to do it for me.
I had been through things that left me with significant trauma and a profound loss of trust. I had stopped trusting almost everyone. He knew the full extent of what had happened and had been one of the very few people I allowed close to me.
I am a highly expressive and emotional person. I feel my way through life using emotions and language. I think in long form. I analyse everything.
I am also, I think, highly emotionally intelligent. I am very attuned to my own emotions and to the emotions of other people. I can usually see what is happening underneath a conversation, and I tend to want to talk about it.
He is almost the opposite.
He is pragmatic, grounded and emotionally contained. He tends to look at a problem and ask what can be done about it. I tend to want to understand what it means, why it happened and what is happening underneath it.
He also struggles with my emotionality. He frequently criticises the way I feel things or the intensity with which I express them. He has told me that he hates feeling responsible for other people's feelings.
I have tried to explain to him that there is a difference between being responsible for somebody else's feelings and being responsible for the impact of our behaviour on someone we are in an intimate relationship with.
We do not get to behave however we like and then say that someone else's feelings are entirely their own problem.
He has been married twice. From what he has told me, both marriages involved him being emotionally distant and unavailable in ways he now recognises. He has described himself as someone who has historically struggled with emotional intimacy.
I have wondered whether he has an avoidant attachment style, although I am very aware that people are far too fond of diagnosing everyone as avoidant simply because they don't behave in the way we want them to.
What makes him difficult to understand is that he is not generally distant from me.
In fact, the opposite is true.
He is extraordinarily present in my life. He talks to me constantly. He is often the first and last person I speak to in a day. He will spend hours talking to me. He has been there through some of the most difficult things I have ever experienced.
So I don't think the simple explanation is that he is an emotionally unavailable man who doesn't want intimacy.
He seems to want an enormous amount of intimacy with me.
The difficulty appears to be that he is much more comfortable with intimacy when it remains within certain boundaries that he controls.
He can be deeply emotionally connected to me through conversation. He can be intensely sexually intimate with me remotely. He can be incredibly present and involved in my daily life.
But real-life romantic intimacy seems to activate something different in him.
That is the contradiction I cannot resolve.
We became extremely close, although after that summer our friendship was conducted almost entirely over the phone and WhatsApp.
The few short relationships I tried during that period all had one undercurrent of a problem: the man I was seeing would eventually feel threatened by my friendship with him.
Not because they were insecure men, necessarily. But because of how heavily I lean on my friend and how present he is and was in my day-to-day life.
One of these short relationships was with a man who lived overseas. I would fly to see him regularly. But my friend was the person I would text:
Let me know you've landed.
I've landed safely.
I'm in an Uber now.
I recognise that this is probably backwards.
Anyway, fast forward to the start of this year.
I was finally in a better place. Not fixed or healed, but definitely further forward.
There has always been a level of chemistry and attraction between us, but it had never been acted upon.
Earlier this year, however, he started to drive our relationship in that direction.
I followed.
In trust.
We ended up becoming very sexually intimate remotely, through phone calls, WhatsApp and video calls. Every day. Our level of contact grew even more. I did the maths once. We averaged around 300 messages a day.
Every day.
Plus phone calls.
Plus video calls.
Plus the sexual intimacy.
I had known him for two years by this point. I trusted him more than I trusted almost anyone. I had allowed myself to become emotionally and sexually intimate with the person who had been the safest and most constant person in my life.
And, inevitably, I fell in love with him.
Naturally, I asked him what we now were.
We were both scared of losing the friendship. It was agreed that we weren't friends with benefits. It was agreed that we weren't just friends.
For all intents and purposes, we were in a relationship.
But he struggled immensely with that title.
I was at a work event once and met a man there. We got on very well. He asked for my number and asked whether I was single.
I honestly didn't know what to say.
So I told my friend that night what had happened.
There is something else that is important to understand about this relationship: there is an extraordinary amount of honesty between us. Probably more from me. He is much more guarded, although he has opened up considerably over time.
He has more insight into my day-to-day life than I have into his.
Anyway, I asked him:
Am I single?
Eventually, he said no.
But it was a very begrudging no.
It did not come easily to him.
Seeing each other in person, however, has been a struggle.
I wanted to desperately. But he always had multiple reasons why we couldn't.
To be clear, we live around two hours apart. One motorway separates us. We both drive. He keeps an apartment in London for work purposes. I live in London.
He does have a demanding job. He is a single parent. He has complicated circumstances involving his parents' health and a dog. But he co-parents well with his son's mother and, while his logistics are undoubtedly complicated, I would not say they are more complicated than those of an average 53-year-old man with a demanding life.
For context, he has never had a fling or a one-night stand. He has only ever been with a relatively small number of women, all in serious, long-term relationships.
He struggles deeply with emotional intimacy.
So we coasted along for a while, but inevitably I started asking why he wouldn't see me.
I had been immensely vulnerable with him sexually, digitally, but I was increasingly scared that I was simply a digital plaything.
I had never agreed to that.
I repeatedly told him that I would not have entered into the sexual side of our relationship if I believed it was going to remain purely digital. I was very clear that, for me, it was heading towards a relationship that existed in real life.
He repeatedly reassured me that I wasn't a digital plaything.
He told me that he wanted to translate what we had into real life.
But we have met once.
In all this time, we have met once: one afternoon at his flat in London, where he was still working.
We had lunch.
We did not have sex.
It was incredibly confusing for me.
We made a plan to meet the following week.
He cancelled.
We made another plan for the week after.
He cancelled that too.
I have repeatedly tried to ask him, calmly and directly, what he actually wants.
I have not demanded declarations of undying love or issued ultimatums. I have tried to ask for clarity in what I believe are kind and healthy ways.
But whenever I ask for clarity, he becomes defensive and shuts down. I end up frustrated, and then the conversation becomes about my frustration rather than the question I originally asked.
I have also tried giving him space, hoping that if I stopped asking and allowed him room, he would come towards me himself with some clarity.
That doesn't work either.
I have told him explicitly that I do not do well living in confusion. I have told him that if he is not able to be in a relationship with me, I would rather know.
I have given him repeated opportunities, with dignity and without drama, to walk away.
I have said, in essence: if this is not what you want, you can tell me. I will be hurt, but I would rather have the truth than continue living in ambiguity.
He has always stayed.
He has told me he will never leave me.
But I have also told him that, now that our friendship has crossed into what it is, I will never be able to return to simply being friends.
I love him too deeply.
The contradiction is that he tells me he cannot commit, but also tells me that I am not single and that he will never leave me.
He tells me he wasn't ready for a relationship, but that I came along and changed things for him.
He tells me he cannot give me a relationship, but does not want to lose me.
He wants the emotional and sexual intimacy of what we have, but becomes defensive when I ask what it actually means.
He is, in many ways, a walking contradiction.
And I have reached the point where I don't know whether I am being compassionate towards somebody who is genuinely frightened and emotionally limited, or whether I am allowing somebody to keep me in a situation that is profoundly painful because I love him.
This is not, in my view, a love-language issue.
If he were a man I had met on Bumble and this were the beginning of our relationship, I would be running a mile in the other direction.
I would probably be warning every other woman I knew to stay away.
The difficulty is that he is not a man I met on Bumble.
He is the man who was there when I was at the lowest point in my life.
He is the man who helped me rebuild.
He is the person I have spoken to every day for two years.
He is the person I trusted enough to become vulnerable with.
He is also the person who now seems unable or unwilling to give me clarity about the relationship he helped create.
On his most recent cancellation of our plans, I asked him to propose another day.
He point-blank refused.
I found this incredibly difficult. My position was that, in my experience, when you cancel plans with someone, you apologise and propose an alternative if you actually want to see them.
He did not.
When I explained why I found that hurtful and confusing, he called me controlling.
That was a significant moment for me.
I do not believe that asking somebody who has cancelled plans to suggest another day is controlling.
I believe it is a normal expectation of somebody who wants to maintain a relationship.
I am now in a period of no contact with him because I simply could not tolerate the ambiguity and the repeated disrespect of my time any longer.
I love him deeply. On many levels.
And if I am brutally honest, I wonder whether the intensity of my attachment to him is partly a consequence of the role he played in helping me survive and rebuild.
He was there when I was at my lowest.
He became the person I trusted most.
He became part of my daily life and my emotional world.
That makes walking away extraordinarily difficult.
Leaving him and walking away from everything we have would cause me significant emotional damage.
Given everything I have already been through, that is not a prospect I am taking lightly.
But I also cannot see a way forward.
And I am now beginning to wonder whether he ever actually intended to make this relationship physical.
Perhaps he genuinely meant it whenever he said he wanted to.
Perhaps he believed he would eventually be able to do it.
Perhaps he loves me in whatever way he is capable of loving somebody.
But perhaps, in practical terms, he has created a relationship that gives him almost everything he wants while allowing him to avoid the one thing I need.
A relationship that exists in reality.
So what exactly is happening here?
Am I looking at a man who genuinely loves me but is terrified of real-life intimacy?
Am I looking at a man who has created a relationship that gives him all the emotional and sexual intimacy he wants without requiring him to take the risks of a real relationship?
Am I being manipulated, even if he does not consciously intend to manipulate me?
Or am I somehow both right?
And perhaps the most difficult question is this:
If somebody genuinely loves you, but is unable or unwilling to give you the relationship you need, does the reason ultimately matter?

I am waking up every day now, and my overriding feeling is that I feel used. And defective. I feel like I am not good enough for him to want in real life and I was only ever good enough for some digital fun. But what an elaborate route to get there for him....

OP posts:
SpryCat · 18/07/2026 07:55

He is not capable of intimacy IRL and you are also using him as a shield from intimacy from anyone you ever meet. You are both commitment/ intimacy phobes, you can read up on women who love too much forum and the book by the same title by Susan Forward.

MidsummerMadness91 · 18/07/2026 07:55

300 messages a day?! That's completely unhealthy regardless of who it is.

Behaviour is the language you need to listen to, not words. He is not interested. In all this time you've met once and he's outright refused to suggest another date. You need to end this now and go completely no contact. There'll be a gaping void where he used to be for a while but that doesn't mean you've made the wrong decision. Just push through and get your life back.

Humanswarm · 18/07/2026 07:56

This is merely an online friendship. That includes sexting. There is no sexual intimacy. And this is the kind of thing I warn my teenage daughters about. People can be anyone they wish to be via a screen. Often thats not who they really are. You speak of your emotional intelligence but its flabbergasting that you can't see what going on here. If you are not careful he is going to become the root of your trauma as opposed to 'the guy who was there through the toughest times'. Extricate yourself gently and move on.

dairydebris · 18/07/2026 07:58

I don't think its highly emotionally intelligent to allow yourself to fall in love with someone who is very clearly emotionally unavailable. Its positively teenage.
We all have a need for human connection, you and him too. He's unwilling to offer more. You've put up with it for two years. How silly. Get yourself out now.

DarkForces · 18/07/2026 08:06

A relationship should be fun for both people. It should lift you. This sounds like an agony of emotional distress on your side and he doesn't want to prop someone else up who's into analysing every thought and feeling.

I think you'll need to date a lot of men to find one who shares your preference to drag the depths of every feeling, but if that's what you need then you need to cast your net wide not waste your time over someone who's clearly completely unsuitable for you.

You need to get real, you're not in a relationship, you're satisfying his sexual needs on the phone for free. Block him and move on.

Cars4Gov · 18/07/2026 08:10

I am waking up every day now, and my overriding feeling is that I feel used

Trust your instincts. Forget the last 2 years, that could be love bombing/grooming. Are you much younger than him?

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 18/07/2026 08:12

Agreed @ALovelyPinkUnicorn
I’ve yet to meeet a self proclaimed “empath” who has any comprehension of the level of tedium they bring to any conversation….

Error404FucksNotFound · 18/07/2026 08:13

That was exhausting to read it must be unbearable to live!

Walk away from him. Theres nothing you've described that sounds worth it.

ForeverNowWithin · 18/07/2026 08:15

Look, he obviously cares about you but he's got issues and it doesn't appear that he's looking for ways to solve them. You fit into his life in exactly the way he wants you to and nothing more. My guess is he has performance issues around sex happening in person. And I think he's getting some sort of kick out of this weird dynamic that you've got going on.

He's keeping you at arm's length but at the same time he's trapping you into something so emotionally intense that you tell yourself you aren't free to pursue relationships elsewhere. You may as well be that mistress who stays with a married man for 10 years, telling herself he'll leave when the children are older, he'll leave when his mother dies, or his dog dies, or his job isn't so stressful or his finances are better, or wife's mental health is better or his son has finished his A levels.

That man rarely ever leaves and your man will never change. He's perfectly happy with the way things are now. It's a waste of your time.

HotinJapantonight · 18/07/2026 08:17

That was War & Peace but I think the upshot is that he doesn't want a formal relationship with you. You come across as being incredibly needy and he's given you as much as he's prepared to.

He's also being a bit dog in the manger with regards to you seeing someone else. You really need to put some distance between you so you can see your relationship with more clarity.

Glowglowdancer · 18/07/2026 08:22

This is what you need to know: despite how much you might be convinced this is not the case, the fact is: he has a wife. 99% guaranteed.

Pjsallday · 18/07/2026 08:24

Hes just that in to you

Quamarina · 18/07/2026 08:26

OP this isn’t the relationship for you.

you’ve described yourself as emotionally intelligent and a large part of this is understanding yourself. Not projecting what you want a person to be, when they just aren’t.
If he’s avoidant and you want open communication with lots of talking, he’s not for you.
if he knows everything about your day / life / innermost feelings and you know nothing of his, again, he’s not for you.

You say you didn’t sign up to become his digital plaything, but every time you go back online and do it, when it’s not bringing you the closeness you want, you ARE signing up for it.

I don’t want to assume but do you have an official diagnosis such as borderline? I just feel you are doing a LOT against your belief system to keep this illusion of closeness with this man, who is controlling the situation completely. He knows a lot about you and therefore how to manipulate the situation to his advantage. He’s got online sex on tap, someone to talk to 24/7, with no commitment whatsoever. You have lost 2 new relationships because of the intensity of the texting with this man.

I would honestly suggest ‘breaking up’ but with a support system in place, therapy, good friends, whatever it takes to keep you broken up. It sounds like addiction at this point, it won’t be easy. But your self esteem must be on the floor to be putting up with this.

RedToothBrush · 18/07/2026 08:26

And BLOCK

Drama solved. You will be happier in the long run.

username2185 · 18/07/2026 08:28

He’s throwing crumbs you’ll never get the whole cake. Walk away. Have you done enough digging to check he isn’t married?

exultingcrocs · 18/07/2026 08:33

BrickProblems · 18/07/2026 07:34

Summary I think is OP developed a close friendship with this guy two years ago and he was very supportive of her at that time when her life was at a really difficult point. Fast forward to this year he tried it on with her over phone/message and she reciprocated so they’ve been sexting/video calls etc but he won’t meet up with her or make the relationship real. She’s fed up.

Yes, that seems like an excellent summary.

It’s a tale as old as time - some people want all the fun of a semi half relationship without the commitment.

In your case it sounds as though you’re analysing every last word and action trying to figure out the ‘why’. There probably isn’t one. He either doesn’t want a romantic relationship full stop or he doesn’t want a romantic relationship with you.

It sucks but it’s rarely more complicated than that. I’m sorry you’ve been through so much but this man is not your saviour. To preserve any last sense of dignity, the best thing you can do is cut your losses and move on. Easier said than done, I know!

SoScarletItWas · 18/07/2026 08:34

I read every word of your post and my considered opinion is:

You are wank fodder at the end of a phone.

That’s it.

Great that he supported you while you were low. But he doesn’t want to be with you. You ARE single. Accept that you took what you needed when you needed it and cut him out now. That’s the only way you will move on.

Jellycatspyjamas · 18/07/2026 08:36

By the way, your deep emotional awareness is almost certainly hypervigilance caused by your trauma history. You are trained in spotting people’s emotions and heading off trouble, appeasing them, for self protection. While this has positive uses, it’s a trauma response and you NEED to learn how to throw up boundaries, to prioritise yourself in each moment rather than pandering to those around you.

This is really important to read, digest and act upon. Part of your healing is to find an emotional equilibrium where you don’t need to detect, dissect and understand every emotion. Your “sensitivity” is keeping you tied to something that isn’t now serving you well.

I imagine an online relationship would have felt safe for you - a form of connection without the risk of physical contact. You’ve fallen for an idea of who this person is, that they can portray to you by text, on phone, by video with no commitment to actually being that person. You’re enmeshed in it now, the level of contact, messages etc isn’t normal for even the closest relationship, he’s keeping you on a hook and your trauma response is making you hyper sensitive to all the reasons why he’s being like this instead of recognising that if he wanted to be with you he would be. It’s really that simple.

He’s got as much as he wants, the power to keep you dangling on the literal end of a line with no commitment, no risk, no real intimacy. And you’ve dressed it up as some special, unique thing when it’s a tale as old as time. He gave you the tools to “heal” in a way that he wanted, that kept the power imbalance, and now when you’re asking for a normal level of personal contact he’s calling you controlling. Get out of it - he’s abusive.

TheFlyingPenguin · 18/07/2026 08:37

You’re overthinking this- let it go.

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 08:37

Hi all. I'm just going to read replies now. For clarity, I wrote it. I'm a professional a writer so do tend to get locked down in the detail. Will take the point it's long. Sorry x

OP posts:
TooHotToBoogie · 18/07/2026 08:38

TLDR
LTB?

Duckiewasthefirstniceguy · 18/07/2026 08:39

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 08:37

Hi all. I'm just going to read replies now. For clarity, I wrote it. I'm a professional a writer so do tend to get locked down in the detail. Will take the point it's long. Sorry x

You’re a professional writer? Really? People pay you money?

Jellycatspyjamas · 18/07/2026 08:40

TooHotToBoogie · 18/07/2026 08:38

TLDR
LTB?

That’s about the size of it. The very long prose is really just evidence that she does indeed need to knock it on the head.

IntoTheRoseGarden · 18/07/2026 08:42

He enjoys being your 'saviour'. It gives him control over your emotions.

It is hard enough getting to grips with Making Tax Digital at the moment, let alone trying to have a wholly digital relationship. Time to move on from whatever this is not.

OtterlyAstounding · 18/07/2026 08:45

You're a digital plaything who's obsessed with this man – he might be stringing you along, but you need to look at what you're getting out of this pseudo-relationship that you've let it go on for so long.

I suspect some part of you enjoys the fact that it's mostly digital and not truly 'real', filled with angst and longing, and that you've constructed an exciting narrative around it – it's a romantic drama that you can agonise over, not real life. You're also unhealthily dependent on him. You seem very emotionally immature and unstable (not meant as an insult at all) and need to work on grounding yourself.

Cut him off and look for something real, with a man you meet face to face, who is actually looking for a relationship. And stop navel gazing so much. Picking apart your emotional state, or others, will only lead to rumination, melodrama, and neuroticism, not deep understanding.