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He says I am not single, but will not see me

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evh1978 · 18/07/2026 07:17

I met a man two years ago through a mutual friend. We became good friends very quickly and, because of the circumstances at the time, spent most of that summer seeing each other as friends almost every day.
I was in the middle of a very dark period of my life, with a huge amount of change and emotional upheaval. I freely acknowledge that it was probably the worst period of my life. I was about as far away from the real me as I could possibly have been when he met me.
At the end of the summer, I returned to where I lived and slowly had to start rebuilding my life.
He was there.
Every day.
Phone calls. WhatsApp messages.
He was always very practically minded. He never let me wallow in the emotion of it all. He would call to see whether I had showered. Over time, as I rebuilt, he helped me find the tools I needed to rebuild my life rather than trying to do it for me.
I had been through things that left me with significant trauma and a profound loss of trust. I had stopped trusting almost everyone. He knew the full extent of what had happened and had been one of the very few people I allowed close to me.
I am a highly expressive and emotional person. I feel my way through life using emotions and language. I think in long form. I analyse everything.
I am also, I think, highly emotionally intelligent. I am very attuned to my own emotions and to the emotions of other people. I can usually see what is happening underneath a conversation, and I tend to want to talk about it.
He is almost the opposite.
He is pragmatic, grounded and emotionally contained. He tends to look at a problem and ask what can be done about it. I tend to want to understand what it means, why it happened and what is happening underneath it.
He also struggles with my emotionality. He frequently criticises the way I feel things or the intensity with which I express them. He has told me that he hates feeling responsible for other people's feelings.
I have tried to explain to him that there is a difference between being responsible for somebody else's feelings and being responsible for the impact of our behaviour on someone we are in an intimate relationship with.
We do not get to behave however we like and then say that someone else's feelings are entirely their own problem.
He has been married twice. From what he has told me, both marriages involved him being emotionally distant and unavailable in ways he now recognises. He has described himself as someone who has historically struggled with emotional intimacy.
I have wondered whether he has an avoidant attachment style, although I am very aware that people are far too fond of diagnosing everyone as avoidant simply because they don't behave in the way we want them to.
What makes him difficult to understand is that he is not generally distant from me.
In fact, the opposite is true.
He is extraordinarily present in my life. He talks to me constantly. He is often the first and last person I speak to in a day. He will spend hours talking to me. He has been there through some of the most difficult things I have ever experienced.
So I don't think the simple explanation is that he is an emotionally unavailable man who doesn't want intimacy.
He seems to want an enormous amount of intimacy with me.
The difficulty appears to be that he is much more comfortable with intimacy when it remains within certain boundaries that he controls.
He can be deeply emotionally connected to me through conversation. He can be intensely sexually intimate with me remotely. He can be incredibly present and involved in my daily life.
But real-life romantic intimacy seems to activate something different in him.
That is the contradiction I cannot resolve.
We became extremely close, although after that summer our friendship was conducted almost entirely over the phone and WhatsApp.
The few short relationships I tried during that period all had one undercurrent of a problem: the man I was seeing would eventually feel threatened by my friendship with him.
Not because they were insecure men, necessarily. But because of how heavily I lean on my friend and how present he is and was in my day-to-day life.
One of these short relationships was with a man who lived overseas. I would fly to see him regularly. But my friend was the person I would text:
Let me know you've landed.
I've landed safely.
I'm in an Uber now.
I recognise that this is probably backwards.
Anyway, fast forward to the start of this year.
I was finally in a better place. Not fixed or healed, but definitely further forward.
There has always been a level of chemistry and attraction between us, but it had never been acted upon.
Earlier this year, however, he started to drive our relationship in that direction.
I followed.
In trust.
We ended up becoming very sexually intimate remotely, through phone calls, WhatsApp and video calls. Every day. Our level of contact grew even more. I did the maths once. We averaged around 300 messages a day.
Every day.
Plus phone calls.
Plus video calls.
Plus the sexual intimacy.
I had known him for two years by this point. I trusted him more than I trusted almost anyone. I had allowed myself to become emotionally and sexually intimate with the person who had been the safest and most constant person in my life.
And, inevitably, I fell in love with him.
Naturally, I asked him what we now were.
We were both scared of losing the friendship. It was agreed that we weren't friends with benefits. It was agreed that we weren't just friends.
For all intents and purposes, we were in a relationship.
But he struggled immensely with that title.
I was at a work event once and met a man there. We got on very well. He asked for my number and asked whether I was single.
I honestly didn't know what to say.
So I told my friend that night what had happened.
There is something else that is important to understand about this relationship: there is an extraordinary amount of honesty between us. Probably more from me. He is much more guarded, although he has opened up considerably over time.
He has more insight into my day-to-day life than I have into his.
Anyway, I asked him:
Am I single?
Eventually, he said no.
But it was a very begrudging no.
It did not come easily to him.
Seeing each other in person, however, has been a struggle.
I wanted to desperately. But he always had multiple reasons why we couldn't.
To be clear, we live around two hours apart. One motorway separates us. We both drive. He keeps an apartment in London for work purposes. I live in London.
He does have a demanding job. He is a single parent. He has complicated circumstances involving his parents' health and a dog. But he co-parents well with his son's mother and, while his logistics are undoubtedly complicated, I would not say they are more complicated than those of an average 53-year-old man with a demanding life.
For context, he has never had a fling or a one-night stand. He has only ever been with a relatively small number of women, all in serious, long-term relationships.
He struggles deeply with emotional intimacy.
So we coasted along for a while, but inevitably I started asking why he wouldn't see me.
I had been immensely vulnerable with him sexually, digitally, but I was increasingly scared that I was simply a digital plaything.
I had never agreed to that.
I repeatedly told him that I would not have entered into the sexual side of our relationship if I believed it was going to remain purely digital. I was very clear that, for me, it was heading towards a relationship that existed in real life.
He repeatedly reassured me that I wasn't a digital plaything.
He told me that he wanted to translate what we had into real life.
But we have met once.
In all this time, we have met once: one afternoon at his flat in London, where he was still working.
We had lunch.
We did not have sex.
It was incredibly confusing for me.
We made a plan to meet the following week.
He cancelled.
We made another plan for the week after.
He cancelled that too.
I have repeatedly tried to ask him, calmly and directly, what he actually wants.
I have not demanded declarations of undying love or issued ultimatums. I have tried to ask for clarity in what I believe are kind and healthy ways.
But whenever I ask for clarity, he becomes defensive and shuts down. I end up frustrated, and then the conversation becomes about my frustration rather than the question I originally asked.
I have also tried giving him space, hoping that if I stopped asking and allowed him room, he would come towards me himself with some clarity.
That doesn't work either.
I have told him explicitly that I do not do well living in confusion. I have told him that if he is not able to be in a relationship with me, I would rather know.
I have given him repeated opportunities, with dignity and without drama, to walk away.
I have said, in essence: if this is not what you want, you can tell me. I will be hurt, but I would rather have the truth than continue living in ambiguity.
He has always stayed.
He has told me he will never leave me.
But I have also told him that, now that our friendship has crossed into what it is, I will never be able to return to simply being friends.
I love him too deeply.
The contradiction is that he tells me he cannot commit, but also tells me that I am not single and that he will never leave me.
He tells me he wasn't ready for a relationship, but that I came along and changed things for him.
He tells me he cannot give me a relationship, but does not want to lose me.
He wants the emotional and sexual intimacy of what we have, but becomes defensive when I ask what it actually means.
He is, in many ways, a walking contradiction.
And I have reached the point where I don't know whether I am being compassionate towards somebody who is genuinely frightened and emotionally limited, or whether I am allowing somebody to keep me in a situation that is profoundly painful because I love him.
This is not, in my view, a love-language issue.
If he were a man I had met on Bumble and this were the beginning of our relationship, I would be running a mile in the other direction.
I would probably be warning every other woman I knew to stay away.
The difficulty is that he is not a man I met on Bumble.
He is the man who was there when I was at the lowest point in my life.
He is the man who helped me rebuild.
He is the person I have spoken to every day for two years.
He is the person I trusted enough to become vulnerable with.
He is also the person who now seems unable or unwilling to give me clarity about the relationship he helped create.
On his most recent cancellation of our plans, I asked him to propose another day.
He point-blank refused.
I found this incredibly difficult. My position was that, in my experience, when you cancel plans with someone, you apologise and propose an alternative if you actually want to see them.
He did not.
When I explained why I found that hurtful and confusing, he called me controlling.
That was a significant moment for me.
I do not believe that asking somebody who has cancelled plans to suggest another day is controlling.
I believe it is a normal expectation of somebody who wants to maintain a relationship.
I am now in a period of no contact with him because I simply could not tolerate the ambiguity and the repeated disrespect of my time any longer.
I love him deeply. On many levels.
And if I am brutally honest, I wonder whether the intensity of my attachment to him is partly a consequence of the role he played in helping me survive and rebuild.
He was there when I was at my lowest.
He became the person I trusted most.
He became part of my daily life and my emotional world.
That makes walking away extraordinarily difficult.
Leaving him and walking away from everything we have would cause me significant emotional damage.
Given everything I have already been through, that is not a prospect I am taking lightly.
But I also cannot see a way forward.
And I am now beginning to wonder whether he ever actually intended to make this relationship physical.
Perhaps he genuinely meant it whenever he said he wanted to.
Perhaps he believed he would eventually be able to do it.
Perhaps he loves me in whatever way he is capable of loving somebody.
But perhaps, in practical terms, he has created a relationship that gives him almost everything he wants while allowing him to avoid the one thing I need.
A relationship that exists in reality.
So what exactly is happening here?
Am I looking at a man who genuinely loves me but is terrified of real-life intimacy?
Am I looking at a man who has created a relationship that gives him all the emotional and sexual intimacy he wants without requiring him to take the risks of a real relationship?
Am I being manipulated, even if he does not consciously intend to manipulate me?
Or am I somehow both right?
And perhaps the most difficult question is this:
If somebody genuinely loves you, but is unable or unwilling to give you the relationship you need, does the reason ultimately matter?

I am waking up every day now, and my overriding feeling is that I feel used. And defective. I feel like I am not good enough for him to want in real life and I was only ever good enough for some digital fun. But what an elaborate route to get there for him....

OP posts:
SaraHoliday · 20/07/2026 09:04

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 07:17

I met a man two years ago through a mutual friend. We became good friends very quickly and, because of the circumstances at the time, spent most of that summer seeing each other as friends almost every day.
I was in the middle of a very dark period of my life, with a huge amount of change and emotional upheaval. I freely acknowledge that it was probably the worst period of my life. I was about as far away from the real me as I could possibly have been when he met me.
At the end of the summer, I returned to where I lived and slowly had to start rebuilding my life.
He was there.
Every day.
Phone calls. WhatsApp messages.
He was always very practically minded. He never let me wallow in the emotion of it all. He would call to see whether I had showered. Over time, as I rebuilt, he helped me find the tools I needed to rebuild my life rather than trying to do it for me.
I had been through things that left me with significant trauma and a profound loss of trust. I had stopped trusting almost everyone. He knew the full extent of what had happened and had been one of the very few people I allowed close to me.
I am a highly expressive and emotional person. I feel my way through life using emotions and language. I think in long form. I analyse everything.
I am also, I think, highly emotionally intelligent. I am very attuned to my own emotions and to the emotions of other people. I can usually see what is happening underneath a conversation, and I tend to want to talk about it.
He is almost the opposite.
He is pragmatic, grounded and emotionally contained. He tends to look at a problem and ask what can be done about it. I tend to want to understand what it means, why it happened and what is happening underneath it.
He also struggles with my emotionality. He frequently criticises the way I feel things or the intensity with which I express them. He has told me that he hates feeling responsible for other people's feelings.
I have tried to explain to him that there is a difference between being responsible for somebody else's feelings and being responsible for the impact of our behaviour on someone we are in an intimate relationship with.
We do not get to behave however we like and then say that someone else's feelings are entirely their own problem.
He has been married twice. From what he has told me, both marriages involved him being emotionally distant and unavailable in ways he now recognises. He has described himself as someone who has historically struggled with emotional intimacy.
I have wondered whether he has an avoidant attachment style, although I am very aware that people are far too fond of diagnosing everyone as avoidant simply because they don't behave in the way we want them to.
What makes him difficult to understand is that he is not generally distant from me.
In fact, the opposite is true.
He is extraordinarily present in my life. He talks to me constantly. He is often the first and last person I speak to in a day. He will spend hours talking to me. He has been there through some of the most difficult things I have ever experienced.
So I don't think the simple explanation is that he is an emotionally unavailable man who doesn't want intimacy.
He seems to want an enormous amount of intimacy with me.
The difficulty appears to be that he is much more comfortable with intimacy when it remains within certain boundaries that he controls.
He can be deeply emotionally connected to me through conversation. He can be intensely sexually intimate with me remotely. He can be incredibly present and involved in my daily life.
But real-life romantic intimacy seems to activate something different in him.
That is the contradiction I cannot resolve.
We became extremely close, although after that summer our friendship was conducted almost entirely over the phone and WhatsApp.
The few short relationships I tried during that period all had one undercurrent of a problem: the man I was seeing would eventually feel threatened by my friendship with him.
Not because they were insecure men, necessarily. But because of how heavily I lean on my friend and how present he is and was in my day-to-day life.
One of these short relationships was with a man who lived overseas. I would fly to see him regularly. But my friend was the person I would text:
Let me know you've landed.
I've landed safely.
I'm in an Uber now.
I recognise that this is probably backwards.
Anyway, fast forward to the start of this year.
I was finally in a better place. Not fixed or healed, but definitely further forward.
There has always been a level of chemistry and attraction between us, but it had never been acted upon.
Earlier this year, however, he started to drive our relationship in that direction.
I followed.
In trust.
We ended up becoming very sexually intimate remotely, through phone calls, WhatsApp and video calls. Every day. Our level of contact grew even more. I did the maths once. We averaged around 300 messages a day.
Every day.
Plus phone calls.
Plus video calls.
Plus the sexual intimacy.
I had known him for two years by this point. I trusted him more than I trusted almost anyone. I had allowed myself to become emotionally and sexually intimate with the person who had been the safest and most constant person in my life.
And, inevitably, I fell in love with him.
Naturally, I asked him what we now were.
We were both scared of losing the friendship. It was agreed that we weren't friends with benefits. It was agreed that we weren't just friends.
For all intents and purposes, we were in a relationship.
But he struggled immensely with that title.
I was at a work event once and met a man there. We got on very well. He asked for my number and asked whether I was single.
I honestly didn't know what to say.
So I told my friend that night what had happened.
There is something else that is important to understand about this relationship: there is an extraordinary amount of honesty between us. Probably more from me. He is much more guarded, although he has opened up considerably over time.
He has more insight into my day-to-day life than I have into his.
Anyway, I asked him:
Am I single?
Eventually, he said no.
But it was a very begrudging no.
It did not come easily to him.
Seeing each other in person, however, has been a struggle.
I wanted to desperately. But he always had multiple reasons why we couldn't.
To be clear, we live around two hours apart. One motorway separates us. We both drive. He keeps an apartment in London for work purposes. I live in London.
He does have a demanding job. He is a single parent. He has complicated circumstances involving his parents' health and a dog. But he co-parents well with his son's mother and, while his logistics are undoubtedly complicated, I would not say they are more complicated than those of an average 53-year-old man with a demanding life.
For context, he has never had a fling or a one-night stand. He has only ever been with a relatively small number of women, all in serious, long-term relationships.
He struggles deeply with emotional intimacy.
So we coasted along for a while, but inevitably I started asking why he wouldn't see me.
I had been immensely vulnerable with him sexually, digitally, but I was increasingly scared that I was simply a digital plaything.
I had never agreed to that.
I repeatedly told him that I would not have entered into the sexual side of our relationship if I believed it was going to remain purely digital. I was very clear that, for me, it was heading towards a relationship that existed in real life.
He repeatedly reassured me that I wasn't a digital plaything.
He told me that he wanted to translate what we had into real life.
But we have met once.
In all this time, we have met once: one afternoon at his flat in London, where he was still working.
We had lunch.
We did not have sex.
It was incredibly confusing for me.
We made a plan to meet the following week.
He cancelled.
We made another plan for the week after.
He cancelled that too.
I have repeatedly tried to ask him, calmly and directly, what he actually wants.
I have not demanded declarations of undying love or issued ultimatums. I have tried to ask for clarity in what I believe are kind and healthy ways.
But whenever I ask for clarity, he becomes defensive and shuts down. I end up frustrated, and then the conversation becomes about my frustration rather than the question I originally asked.
I have also tried giving him space, hoping that if I stopped asking and allowed him room, he would come towards me himself with some clarity.
That doesn't work either.
I have told him explicitly that I do not do well living in confusion. I have told him that if he is not able to be in a relationship with me, I would rather know.
I have given him repeated opportunities, with dignity and without drama, to walk away.
I have said, in essence: if this is not what you want, you can tell me. I will be hurt, but I would rather have the truth than continue living in ambiguity.
He has always stayed.
He has told me he will never leave me.
But I have also told him that, now that our friendship has crossed into what it is, I will never be able to return to simply being friends.
I love him too deeply.
The contradiction is that he tells me he cannot commit, but also tells me that I am not single and that he will never leave me.
He tells me he wasn't ready for a relationship, but that I came along and changed things for him.
He tells me he cannot give me a relationship, but does not want to lose me.
He wants the emotional and sexual intimacy of what we have, but becomes defensive when I ask what it actually means.
He is, in many ways, a walking contradiction.
And I have reached the point where I don't know whether I am being compassionate towards somebody who is genuinely frightened and emotionally limited, or whether I am allowing somebody to keep me in a situation that is profoundly painful because I love him.
This is not, in my view, a love-language issue.
If he were a man I had met on Bumble and this were the beginning of our relationship, I would be running a mile in the other direction.
I would probably be warning every other woman I knew to stay away.
The difficulty is that he is not a man I met on Bumble.
He is the man who was there when I was at the lowest point in my life.
He is the man who helped me rebuild.
He is the person I have spoken to every day for two years.
He is the person I trusted enough to become vulnerable with.
He is also the person who now seems unable or unwilling to give me clarity about the relationship he helped create.
On his most recent cancellation of our plans, I asked him to propose another day.
He point-blank refused.
I found this incredibly difficult. My position was that, in my experience, when you cancel plans with someone, you apologise and propose an alternative if you actually want to see them.
He did not.
When I explained why I found that hurtful and confusing, he called me controlling.
That was a significant moment for me.
I do not believe that asking somebody who has cancelled plans to suggest another day is controlling.
I believe it is a normal expectation of somebody who wants to maintain a relationship.
I am now in a period of no contact with him because I simply could not tolerate the ambiguity and the repeated disrespect of my time any longer.
I love him deeply. On many levels.
And if I am brutally honest, I wonder whether the intensity of my attachment to him is partly a consequence of the role he played in helping me survive and rebuild.
He was there when I was at my lowest.
He became the person I trusted most.
He became part of my daily life and my emotional world.
That makes walking away extraordinarily difficult.
Leaving him and walking away from everything we have would cause me significant emotional damage.
Given everything I have already been through, that is not a prospect I am taking lightly.
But I also cannot see a way forward.
And I am now beginning to wonder whether he ever actually intended to make this relationship physical.
Perhaps he genuinely meant it whenever he said he wanted to.
Perhaps he believed he would eventually be able to do it.
Perhaps he loves me in whatever way he is capable of loving somebody.
But perhaps, in practical terms, he has created a relationship that gives him almost everything he wants while allowing him to avoid the one thing I need.
A relationship that exists in reality.
So what exactly is happening here?
Am I looking at a man who genuinely loves me but is terrified of real-life intimacy?
Am I looking at a man who has created a relationship that gives him all the emotional and sexual intimacy he wants without requiring him to take the risks of a real relationship?
Am I being manipulated, even if he does not consciously intend to manipulate me?
Or am I somehow both right?
And perhaps the most difficult question is this:
If somebody genuinely loves you, but is unable or unwilling to give you the relationship you need, does the reason ultimately matter?

I am waking up every day now, and my overriding feeling is that I feel used. And defective. I feel like I am not good enough for him to want in real life and I was only ever good enough for some digital fun. But what an elaborate route to get there for him....

Jeez OP! Had I seen the length of the post before I realised I was only 50% through reading it I might not have skimmed the remainder - so I am bound to have missed something!

In essence, you're emotionally invested in him.

He's 53 years old - he should be able to navigate this and express himself by now. If he's been upfront with you on what he wants from whatever this is - OK. Only you can make the choice on whether it's enough for you.

supersop60 · 20/07/2026 09:21

If you want closure, just get in the car (train, whatever) and drive those two hours. Whatever you find will tell you everything.
He doesn’t want to see you, and is making a mug of you.
My dear mum used to say ‘ find the iron in your soul’.

Thriftygal · 20/07/2026 13:03

OP you seem to be wrapping yourself in knots trying to decipher and understand his behaviour but this is a pointless excersise. You are not a priority to him and he doesnt want to see you in person. He wants this online contact all on his own terms and does not want to change this despite your requests. All you can do is understand YOUR OWN response to being treated so badly and explore why you are allowing this unhealthy sham of a "relationship" to continue.

He is possibly married
He possibly may have ED so is avioding a physical relationship
He may have a fetish or preference for remote sexual encounters.
He is possibly after nothing but some digital wank fodder.
He may possibly get a thrill out of lovebombing and catfishing women remotely.

What does it matter? He does not want a physical, in persoon, real life relationship with you so this makes you incompatable with each other. He is not what you want or need him to be.

You sound as if you have made great progress in getting your life back on track and this situation is not helping you in any way, it is weird and toxic and probably damaging to you so please be brave and press the block and delete button on him.

Dirtyrose · 21/07/2026 07:30

What does it matter? He does not want a physical, in persoon, real life relationship with you so this makes you incompatable with each other. He is not what you want or need him to be.

Exactly.

The rub is it's taken 2 years to see that this is what he is.

I know it's easy but you need to accept it, forgive yourself, dust yourself down and move on.

You have two boys who need you to be 'there' in mind not just body, a job, and friends. Focus on them and, instead of feeling sad, get angry and see him for the loser he is.

Itsthewoluff · 21/07/2026 08:50

Appreciate he helped you when you needed it, but also realise he can’t/won’t give you what you need in real life now, at the point of your life you are now at. Have good memories, but cut him adrift. Or get your anger if that helps you leave him.

No point over analysing why. He’s just not right for you right now.

Fedup267 · 21/07/2026 16:02

evh1978 · 19/07/2026 13:04

@Fedup267 also, sorry, forgot to say, that really resonated about what you said about hoe you feel like you are indebted to him. It is the same here. I didn’t want to go into the gory details on the post (and would have probably been crucified for adding in even more detail), but I feel exactly the same. It's like I put up with the behaviours and gave him the benefit of the doubt because I felt I owed him so much. He saved my life. Not metaphorically. Actually literally. When we spent the summer together after we met. The details don't matter but he physically saved my life. And then over the past couple of years has acted like a benefactor in many ways. My eldest son plays a sport semi professionally and is about to head off to university and my friend has behind the scenes, paid for and facilitated an awful lot of my big one's needs. And has acted a bit like a co parent with my youngest one when I have struggled on decisions. But, I do see now, and everyone will of course jump on this as manipulative, as that's what it was. It didn't feel it at the time. It felt good to have someone on my parenting team.
And the defensiveness. Yes and yes. I get this.

@evh1978 hope you’re okay. The trip away and phone off sounds like a great idea and something you need. I hope you have a lovely time with your friend.

By the way, your post has given me the kick I needed so thank you. I’ve blocked my friend and deleted his number. I will never unblock. He hadn’t replied to my last message anyway so no goodbye message how he’s hurt me again , it’s all pointless. He’s helped me in the past and I have expressed my gratitude, but the past is the past. Same as if you’ve helped someone in the past you wouldn’t expect them to be indebted to you forever.

Try and find something else to fill the gaps of talking to him. Even ChatGPT has been useful to me the last few months. (I know that sounds pathetic but it’s true). A previous poster mentioned your man may possibly have ED. That’s what I now keep thinking about mine. What kind of man talks the talk but doesn’t follow up unless there’s something wrong that he doesn’t want to admit? If men had the opportunity , in my opinion, they would.

I’ve allowed all the negative things that give me the ick to enter my head, things that would physically put me off a person. That helps too.

Happy to chat if it helps - just remember that the decision must come from you though and it needs to be from a place where you’ve just had enough.

Fedup267 · 21/07/2026 16:12

@evh1978 ps I don’t take shit in real life either… no one would believe me if I told them about this guy. I’ve always been an advocate in being assertive and not standing for bad treatment and I’ve dumped others for less… ! There’s a chink in your armour and he’s managed to wriggle through, like a virus . Time to take some medicine and get rid for good. It won’t be easy but needs to happen.

Sausagedog101 · 21/07/2026 19:46

@Fedup267@evh1978Thank you both so much for your posts. I can’t tell you how personally helpful it has been to me and my situation. I too have a “friend” who uses me as an on-call sex line and I am fed up with it. It’s a very coercive relationship and very degrading and he always puts me down. I’ve agreed to all sorts of things I am completely horrified by. Your posts, and the posts of the other responders (thank you all!) have helped me place this in some sort of context. I tell myself - every moment I spend wasting on him is a moment I could be spending time with my girls and my family.

thank you all.

Sausagedog101 · 21/07/2026 19:47

To add @Fedup267@evh1978 I have also now cut contact. It’s hard but the sense of relief I felt when I did it was IMMENSE!

Fedup267 · 22/07/2026 07:00

@Sausagedog101 great to hear you’ve cut contact. The hardest part in my opinion will be sticking to it. I always am fine(ish) for the first few months no contact but our brains naturally tend to overlook/take the sting out of the bad parts the more time goes on, then you may find yourself back into the same cycle. You think time has passed, maybe he’s reflected, you reminisce, you get pulled back in, only for him to ignore, cancel, discard and you feel worse that you’ve allowed yourself to let it happen again knowing the history. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me and all that jazz ! It’ll be around Christmas/new year time that I’ll struggle and I know that - hopefully i can make it through this time and so can you.

olympicsrock · 22/07/2026 07:37

Oh OP . You are incredibly vulnerable and needy . This man has taken advantage of this. You are a digital plaything , he is not that into you , doesn’t want a real relationship and probably has a real life partner.

He is not good for you . The best thing you could do is to take control and block him . Someone who has treated you like this is not a friend and is not partner material .

AgilePearlTraybake · 22/07/2026 09:28

He likes the attention you give him on the phone. I think he likes the dynamic and the chat and has enjoyed your interactions. You're his emotional safe space/fall back girl.

However, there's something about your physical appearance or presence or manners (in person) he doesn't like and doesn't see as proper girlfriend or "public friend" material.

You're clearly attractive if you're getting real life attention. He just wants something different - could be younger, could be older, could be different hair colouring, different voice... who knows?

At 53 with lots of spare money there is NO way he is short of social or romantic options, if he isn't coupled up already.

When you first met expect you weren't in your usual environment so he was ok being seen with you. In real life, in London, he's embarrassed by you. If he met new friends who were more his "physical type" in real life he'd definitely be available for them.

I wonder if you yourself are emotionally unavailable as well? You seem to have good dating prospects and friends but are sacrificing them for a text relationship?

Why is this? Is it easier to do the perfect phone relationship than it is to make the compromises necessary for a physical relationship? Are the people you hang out with in real life not attractive or attentive enough?

Dirtyrose · 22/07/2026 10:14

AgilePearlTraybake · 22/07/2026 09:28

He likes the attention you give him on the phone. I think he likes the dynamic and the chat and has enjoyed your interactions. You're his emotional safe space/fall back girl.

However, there's something about your physical appearance or presence or manners (in person) he doesn't like and doesn't see as proper girlfriend or "public friend" material.

You're clearly attractive if you're getting real life attention. He just wants something different - could be younger, could be older, could be different hair colouring, different voice... who knows?

At 53 with lots of spare money there is NO way he is short of social or romantic options, if he isn't coupled up already.

When you first met expect you weren't in your usual environment so he was ok being seen with you. In real life, in London, he's embarrassed by you. If he met new friends who were more his "physical type" in real life he'd definitely be available for them.

I wonder if you yourself are emotionally unavailable as well? You seem to have good dating prospects and friends but are sacrificing them for a text relationship?

Why is this? Is it easier to do the perfect phone relationship than it is to make the compromises necessary for a physical relationship? Are the people you hang out with in real life not attractive or attentive enough?

Bloody hell- that's quite a leap! You really are sticking the knife in by telling OP she isn't attractive enough and he's embarrassed by her. The London meeting was in a flat, where he works a day now and then. He knew what she looked like as they'd done video calls.

More likely he is already attached to someone or simply enjoyed the thrill of a online affair.

Goditsmemargaret · 22/07/2026 10:49

Oh FFS get a grip. He's living with his wife and family. Block him.

nolongersurprised · 22/07/2026 10:55

Dirtyrose · 22/07/2026 10:14

Bloody hell- that's quite a leap! You really are sticking the knife in by telling OP she isn't attractive enough and he's embarrassed by her. The London meeting was in a flat, where he works a day now and then. He knew what she looked like as they'd done video calls.

More likely he is already attached to someone or simply enjoyed the thrill of a online affair.

Or he’s getting everything he needs by his nightly wank to the OP’s naked body and sexting 🤷‍♀️. he might not want real life actual intimacy, just the sex part.

Whatever the reason, it’s all a bit shabby.

Dirtyrose · 22/07/2026 11:27

Goditsmemargaret · 22/07/2026 10:49

Oh FFS get a grip. He's living with his wife and family. Block him.

That doesn't quite stack up if you read all her posts, about sharing childcare and being divorced, unless it's all lies.

Fedup267 · 28/07/2026 04:02

@evh1978 hi op, how are you doing?

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