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He says I am not single, but will not see me

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evh1978 · 18/07/2026 07:17

I met a man two years ago through a mutual friend. We became good friends very quickly and, because of the circumstances at the time, spent most of that summer seeing each other as friends almost every day.
I was in the middle of a very dark period of my life, with a huge amount of change and emotional upheaval. I freely acknowledge that it was probably the worst period of my life. I was about as far away from the real me as I could possibly have been when he met me.
At the end of the summer, I returned to where I lived and slowly had to start rebuilding my life.
He was there.
Every day.
Phone calls. WhatsApp messages.
He was always very practically minded. He never let me wallow in the emotion of it all. He would call to see whether I had showered. Over time, as I rebuilt, he helped me find the tools I needed to rebuild my life rather than trying to do it for me.
I had been through things that left me with significant trauma and a profound loss of trust. I had stopped trusting almost everyone. He knew the full extent of what had happened and had been one of the very few people I allowed close to me.
I am a highly expressive and emotional person. I feel my way through life using emotions and language. I think in long form. I analyse everything.
I am also, I think, highly emotionally intelligent. I am very attuned to my own emotions and to the emotions of other people. I can usually see what is happening underneath a conversation, and I tend to want to talk about it.
He is almost the opposite.
He is pragmatic, grounded and emotionally contained. He tends to look at a problem and ask what can be done about it. I tend to want to understand what it means, why it happened and what is happening underneath it.
He also struggles with my emotionality. He frequently criticises the way I feel things or the intensity with which I express them. He has told me that he hates feeling responsible for other people's feelings.
I have tried to explain to him that there is a difference between being responsible for somebody else's feelings and being responsible for the impact of our behaviour on someone we are in an intimate relationship with.
We do not get to behave however we like and then say that someone else's feelings are entirely their own problem.
He has been married twice. From what he has told me, both marriages involved him being emotionally distant and unavailable in ways he now recognises. He has described himself as someone who has historically struggled with emotional intimacy.
I have wondered whether he has an avoidant attachment style, although I am very aware that people are far too fond of diagnosing everyone as avoidant simply because they don't behave in the way we want them to.
What makes him difficult to understand is that he is not generally distant from me.
In fact, the opposite is true.
He is extraordinarily present in my life. He talks to me constantly. He is often the first and last person I speak to in a day. He will spend hours talking to me. He has been there through some of the most difficult things I have ever experienced.
So I don't think the simple explanation is that he is an emotionally unavailable man who doesn't want intimacy.
He seems to want an enormous amount of intimacy with me.
The difficulty appears to be that he is much more comfortable with intimacy when it remains within certain boundaries that he controls.
He can be deeply emotionally connected to me through conversation. He can be intensely sexually intimate with me remotely. He can be incredibly present and involved in my daily life.
But real-life romantic intimacy seems to activate something different in him.
That is the contradiction I cannot resolve.
We became extremely close, although after that summer our friendship was conducted almost entirely over the phone and WhatsApp.
The few short relationships I tried during that period all had one undercurrent of a problem: the man I was seeing would eventually feel threatened by my friendship with him.
Not because they were insecure men, necessarily. But because of how heavily I lean on my friend and how present he is and was in my day-to-day life.
One of these short relationships was with a man who lived overseas. I would fly to see him regularly. But my friend was the person I would text:
Let me know you've landed.
I've landed safely.
I'm in an Uber now.
I recognise that this is probably backwards.
Anyway, fast forward to the start of this year.
I was finally in a better place. Not fixed or healed, but definitely further forward.
There has always been a level of chemistry and attraction between us, but it had never been acted upon.
Earlier this year, however, he started to drive our relationship in that direction.
I followed.
In trust.
We ended up becoming very sexually intimate remotely, through phone calls, WhatsApp and video calls. Every day. Our level of contact grew even more. I did the maths once. We averaged around 300 messages a day.
Every day.
Plus phone calls.
Plus video calls.
Plus the sexual intimacy.
I had known him for two years by this point. I trusted him more than I trusted almost anyone. I had allowed myself to become emotionally and sexually intimate with the person who had been the safest and most constant person in my life.
And, inevitably, I fell in love with him.
Naturally, I asked him what we now were.
We were both scared of losing the friendship. It was agreed that we weren't friends with benefits. It was agreed that we weren't just friends.
For all intents and purposes, we were in a relationship.
But he struggled immensely with that title.
I was at a work event once and met a man there. We got on very well. He asked for my number and asked whether I was single.
I honestly didn't know what to say.
So I told my friend that night what had happened.
There is something else that is important to understand about this relationship: there is an extraordinary amount of honesty between us. Probably more from me. He is much more guarded, although he has opened up considerably over time.
He has more insight into my day-to-day life than I have into his.
Anyway, I asked him:
Am I single?
Eventually, he said no.
But it was a very begrudging no.
It did not come easily to him.
Seeing each other in person, however, has been a struggle.
I wanted to desperately. But he always had multiple reasons why we couldn't.
To be clear, we live around two hours apart. One motorway separates us. We both drive. He keeps an apartment in London for work purposes. I live in London.
He does have a demanding job. He is a single parent. He has complicated circumstances involving his parents' health and a dog. But he co-parents well with his son's mother and, while his logistics are undoubtedly complicated, I would not say they are more complicated than those of an average 53-year-old man with a demanding life.
For context, he has never had a fling or a one-night stand. He has only ever been with a relatively small number of women, all in serious, long-term relationships.
He struggles deeply with emotional intimacy.
So we coasted along for a while, but inevitably I started asking why he wouldn't see me.
I had been immensely vulnerable with him sexually, digitally, but I was increasingly scared that I was simply a digital plaything.
I had never agreed to that.
I repeatedly told him that I would not have entered into the sexual side of our relationship if I believed it was going to remain purely digital. I was very clear that, for me, it was heading towards a relationship that existed in real life.
He repeatedly reassured me that I wasn't a digital plaything.
He told me that he wanted to translate what we had into real life.
But we have met once.
In all this time, we have met once: one afternoon at his flat in London, where he was still working.
We had lunch.
We did not have sex.
It was incredibly confusing for me.
We made a plan to meet the following week.
He cancelled.
We made another plan for the week after.
He cancelled that too.
I have repeatedly tried to ask him, calmly and directly, what he actually wants.
I have not demanded declarations of undying love or issued ultimatums. I have tried to ask for clarity in what I believe are kind and healthy ways.
But whenever I ask for clarity, he becomes defensive and shuts down. I end up frustrated, and then the conversation becomes about my frustration rather than the question I originally asked.
I have also tried giving him space, hoping that if I stopped asking and allowed him room, he would come towards me himself with some clarity.
That doesn't work either.
I have told him explicitly that I do not do well living in confusion. I have told him that if he is not able to be in a relationship with me, I would rather know.
I have given him repeated opportunities, with dignity and without drama, to walk away.
I have said, in essence: if this is not what you want, you can tell me. I will be hurt, but I would rather have the truth than continue living in ambiguity.
He has always stayed.
He has told me he will never leave me.
But I have also told him that, now that our friendship has crossed into what it is, I will never be able to return to simply being friends.
I love him too deeply.
The contradiction is that he tells me he cannot commit, but also tells me that I am not single and that he will never leave me.
He tells me he wasn't ready for a relationship, but that I came along and changed things for him.
He tells me he cannot give me a relationship, but does not want to lose me.
He wants the emotional and sexual intimacy of what we have, but becomes defensive when I ask what it actually means.
He is, in many ways, a walking contradiction.
And I have reached the point where I don't know whether I am being compassionate towards somebody who is genuinely frightened and emotionally limited, or whether I am allowing somebody to keep me in a situation that is profoundly painful because I love him.
This is not, in my view, a love-language issue.
If he were a man I had met on Bumble and this were the beginning of our relationship, I would be running a mile in the other direction.
I would probably be warning every other woman I knew to stay away.
The difficulty is that he is not a man I met on Bumble.
He is the man who was there when I was at the lowest point in my life.
He is the man who helped me rebuild.
He is the person I have spoken to every day for two years.
He is the person I trusted enough to become vulnerable with.
He is also the person who now seems unable or unwilling to give me clarity about the relationship he helped create.
On his most recent cancellation of our plans, I asked him to propose another day.
He point-blank refused.
I found this incredibly difficult. My position was that, in my experience, when you cancel plans with someone, you apologise and propose an alternative if you actually want to see them.
He did not.
When I explained why I found that hurtful and confusing, he called me controlling.
That was a significant moment for me.
I do not believe that asking somebody who has cancelled plans to suggest another day is controlling.
I believe it is a normal expectation of somebody who wants to maintain a relationship.
I am now in a period of no contact with him because I simply could not tolerate the ambiguity and the repeated disrespect of my time any longer.
I love him deeply. On many levels.
And if I am brutally honest, I wonder whether the intensity of my attachment to him is partly a consequence of the role he played in helping me survive and rebuild.
He was there when I was at my lowest.
He became the person I trusted most.
He became part of my daily life and my emotional world.
That makes walking away extraordinarily difficult.
Leaving him and walking away from everything we have would cause me significant emotional damage.
Given everything I have already been through, that is not a prospect I am taking lightly.
But I also cannot see a way forward.
And I am now beginning to wonder whether he ever actually intended to make this relationship physical.
Perhaps he genuinely meant it whenever he said he wanted to.
Perhaps he believed he would eventually be able to do it.
Perhaps he loves me in whatever way he is capable of loving somebody.
But perhaps, in practical terms, he has created a relationship that gives him almost everything he wants while allowing him to avoid the one thing I need.
A relationship that exists in reality.
So what exactly is happening here?
Am I looking at a man who genuinely loves me but is terrified of real-life intimacy?
Am I looking at a man who has created a relationship that gives him all the emotional and sexual intimacy he wants without requiring him to take the risks of a real relationship?
Am I being manipulated, even if he does not consciously intend to manipulate me?
Or am I somehow both right?
And perhaps the most difficult question is this:
If somebody genuinely loves you, but is unable or unwilling to give you the relationship you need, does the reason ultimately matter?

I am waking up every day now, and my overriding feeling is that I feel used. And defective. I feel like I am not good enough for him to want in real life and I was only ever good enough for some digital fun. But what an elaborate route to get there for him....

OP posts:
Dirtyrose · 19/07/2026 08:19

He was always very practically minded. He never let me wallow in the emotion of it all. He would call to see whether I had showered. Over time, as I rebuilt, he helped me find the tools I needed to rebuild my life rather than trying to do it for me.

You've misinterpreted his behaviour, ascribing qualities to him which aren't the reality. He controlled you.

The 'have you showered' was not helpful. It was a man controlling you. Making you dependent on him. Checking up on you, messages 300 times a day. Did that not ring alarm bells?

You interpreted it as caring.It wasn't. It was all about HIM.

You've given 2 years of your life over to a fantasy.

The ONE meeting you had where he was distant and didn't want sex in real life should have sent you running for the hills.

The phone and video sex- basically providing free porn so he could masturbate at no cost (emotionally or financially) and continue to hook you in (because you were emotionally vulnerable.)

Please go back into therapy. In your 40s you should be able to see this man for what he is. The fact you can't says a lot about your self-worth, judgement, and vulnerability.

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ProfessorInkling · 19/07/2026 12:13

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He says I am not single, but will not see me
evh1978 · 19/07/2026 12:53

Fedup267 · 19/07/2026 03:56

@evh1978 OP I can really relate to your current situation, it’s one I am currently experiencing right now. I’m a year in from -finally having enough and blocking, to unblocking him a couple of months later as I miss the friendship, we chat for 5 hours non stop, arrange to meet, something inevitably comes up his end and he cancels then doesn’t contact me for a couple of weeks. It’s the same cycle every time. I’ve read lots of articles on avoidant attachment theory and tried to be patient / shrink myself to his needs but at the end of it all, I’m feeling worse than when I started. He was there for me through some serious mental difficulty in the past and I’ve always found it difficult to cut him off and put it down to his traumatic past but he’s never going to change. He seems happy to be vulnerable digitally but never wants to in real life, something I find baffling and isolating.

There was a previous poster who suggested thinking of another friend in the same situation or perhaps a daughter - what advise would you give them etc. I’ve been really honest with my friend in that I’ve said how he’s treated me I would have told someone else to leave it, he’s agreed and even sympathised!!! Yet I’m stuck in this cycle. I do feel I owe him something I guess and I didn’t really want to be sexting either but it always leads there. He’s even made jokes that he doesn’t mind me blocking him for a while as I “always come back” - you’d think that would put me off as it makes me feel pathetic. I did hit a nerve recently though as I called him an avoidant (in a nice way) and he got really defensive about it.

i suspect he’s got someone else even though he’s denied it when I’ve asked.

Anyway I just wanted to express solidarity , it’s really refreshing to see I’m not the only one going through this. I hope we can both come to our senses soon as this situation is making me miserable.

My goodness. Sounds like exactly the same man. Right down to the things he has said to you are carbon copies of what mine said to me.

The frustration is, that most people on here are saying I need to develop boundaries, do work on self worth etc and with any other human on the planet, in light of my past and the work i have done, I am exactly like this. To the point that some men have accused me of being too boundaried. I don't sleep around (any more), I practice rigorous body autonomy, i have a one strike and they are out rule for any red flag behaviour, I refuse to be glued to my phone and will only use whatsapp and phone calls primarily as a way to organise real world dates, I mean, i could write the rule book on having good boundaries. Except with this one. This one seemed to fly in under the radar and before I knew it we were here. It's like he somehow got inside my brain and adjusted the thinking to suit him.
After my last (not serious) relationship ended, a guy for a few months, no dramatic ending, just i realised he wasn't stretching me intellectually and was boring me a little, my friend turned round to me and said,,you don't need any more men, you have the boys (my kids) and you have me (him) . And I believed him i bloody believed him.
Im sorry you are experiencing it too.
Cold turkey.
I'm only on day 3. Haven't worked up the courage to block yet. I will. I have made plans to go and stay with a girlfriend and her family for the next couple of weeks. Kids are with their dad. Once they are deposited safely, and I am at my friends house, I will switch off my phone, and talk endlessly at my feiend to process it, wallow in being looked after for a bit and hopefully come out the other side a little bit more robust. I miss him. Annoyingly. Last night my 18 year old went awol for a couple of hours, he forgot his phone and hadn't mentioned he was going out. I was absolutely losing my mind worrying that something had happened (he literally doesn't even use the bathroom without taking his phone), and i automatically went to call my friend. To tell him and get support and have him talk me down. I didn't but it was so hard. 18 year old turned up fine. He had gone to the gym and forgot phone. But in moments like these, I realise how much I came to rely on him

OP posts:
evh1978 · 19/07/2026 13:04

@Fedup267 also, sorry, forgot to say, that really resonated about what you said about hoe you feel like you are indebted to him. It is the same here. I didn’t want to go into the gory details on the post (and would have probably been crucified for adding in even more detail), but I feel exactly the same. It's like I put up with the behaviours and gave him the benefit of the doubt because I felt I owed him so much. He saved my life. Not metaphorically. Actually literally. When we spent the summer together after we met. The details don't matter but he physically saved my life. And then over the past couple of years has acted like a benefactor in many ways. My eldest son plays a sport semi professionally and is about to head off to university and my friend has behind the scenes, paid for and facilitated an awful lot of my big one's needs. And has acted a bit like a co parent with my youngest one when I have struggled on decisions. But, I do see now, and everyone will of course jump on this as manipulative, as that's what it was. It didn't feel it at the time. It felt good to have someone on my parenting team.
And the defensiveness. Yes and yes. I get this.

OP posts:
Tontostitis · 19/07/2026 13:10

Synopsis as that was a wall of text:
Never had sex only met once says all the right things but isn't interested in having sex or meeting up. You are not in a relationship and if the way you talking to people is anything that wall of text you should probably seek therapy. You are trapped in your trauma and have latched on to a man that isn't interested in the real person that is you.l he's just interested in being a hero to your victim.

ProfessorInkling · 19/07/2026 13:57

Cold turkey is definitely the way OP and keep posting, start a new thread if you just want support when you feel like caving so people don’t just reply to your first post.

you are worth more than this.

that should be your mantra.

don’t settle for scraps.

Dirtyrose · 19/07/2026 14:54

You've surprised me even more to hear you have adult children.

How have you managed to carry on this behaviour for 2 years with the demands of two young boys at home? And all the input they need- exams, work, their own relationships.

And this man, who you met once in 2 years , was paying towards things your son did? And you accepted that? You took money from a man you'd met once, for your child? He was never on your parenting team.

Can't you see it was controlling? Making him indispensable in your eyes.
It was like payment for the remote sex services.

He saved your life? Maybe you considered suicide and he talked you down?
Yet he never came to see you. It was all talk. For 2 years.

What you are dealing with (your behaviour) is addiction, plain and simple.
You fell for a fantasy. It was never a relationship. He filled a gap in your life.
You need to block him. He is NOT a nice man.
And you need to consider more therapy.

I will switch off my phone, and talk endlessly at my feiend to process it, wallow in being looked after for a bit and hopefully come out the other side a little bit more robust.

What will your friend say? Is it fair to talk to them like you've posted here? Is your friend really there to listen to you for 2 weeks? That's a big ask.
Better to book yourself a session with a counsellor and get someone with no emotional investment or agenda to offload to.

AllTheTreesOfTheField · 19/07/2026 15:09

I will switch off my phone, and talk endlessly at my feiend to process it, wallow in being looked after for a bit and hopefully come out the other side a little bit more robust.

For two weeks? Sure if your friend and her family will be ok with that level of being talked at?

evh1978 · 19/07/2026 15:28

AllTheTreesOfTheField · 19/07/2026 15:09

I will switch off my phone, and talk endlessly at my feiend to process it, wallow in being looked after for a bit and hopefully come out the other side a little bit more robust.

For two weeks? Sure if your friend and her family will be ok with that level of being talked at?

My friend and I will not talk solely about my problems with this man. She will listen to me in the same way that I will listen to her about her stuff and undoubtedly we will also be normal. I am also not here on advice on how to manage my friendships. I'm very secure in these. It's sort of what friends do in my experience. You go and stay with them when you are having a rubbish time and you process your stuff and their stuff and live life whilst doing it. Sp please let's not all start another side swipe at another aspect of my life. I was here purely for support and guidance over the man situation not my career or friendships or parenting. All of which are good. Thank you. My whole life isn't coming apart. Just this one area!

OP posts:
evh1978 · 19/07/2026 15:33

Dirtyrose · 19/07/2026 14:54

You've surprised me even more to hear you have adult children.

How have you managed to carry on this behaviour for 2 years with the demands of two young boys at home? And all the input they need- exams, work, their own relationships.

And this man, who you met once in 2 years , was paying towards things your son did? And you accepted that? You took money from a man you'd met once, for your child? He was never on your parenting team.

Can't you see it was controlling? Making him indispensable in your eyes.
It was like payment for the remote sex services.

He saved your life? Maybe you considered suicide and he talked you down?
Yet he never came to see you. It was all talk. For 2 years.

What you are dealing with (your behaviour) is addiction, plain and simple.
You fell for a fantasy. It was never a relationship. He filled a gap in your life.
You need to block him. He is NOT a nice man.
And you need to consider more therapy.

I will switch off my phone, and talk endlessly at my feiend to process it, wallow in being looked after for a bit and hopefully come out the other side a little bit more robust.

What will your friend say? Is it fair to talk to them like you've posted here? Is your friend really there to listen to you for 2 weeks? That's a big ask.
Better to book yourself a session with a counsellor and get someone with no emotional investment or agenda to offload to.

Edited

Suicide is a big leap. As I said, the details are unimportant but interesting that this is where you landed.

I really am here for support. Whilst it is wonderful to be called a glorified prostitute by you, I'd really just rather have helpful advice. The situation is incredibly nuanced and I am in total agreement that this man has been a total arse, and I have, because of a complicated set of circumstances, let it run away with me, I'm not sure implying I have resorted to sex work and suicide is overly helpful.

OP posts:
B206 · 19/07/2026 15:39

Dirtyrose · 19/07/2026 14:54

You've surprised me even more to hear you have adult children.

How have you managed to carry on this behaviour for 2 years with the demands of two young boys at home? And all the input they need- exams, work, their own relationships.

And this man, who you met once in 2 years , was paying towards things your son did? And you accepted that? You took money from a man you'd met once, for your child? He was never on your parenting team.

Can't you see it was controlling? Making him indispensable in your eyes.
It was like payment for the remote sex services.

He saved your life? Maybe you considered suicide and he talked you down?
Yet he never came to see you. It was all talk. For 2 years.

What you are dealing with (your behaviour) is addiction, plain and simple.
You fell for a fantasy. It was never a relationship. He filled a gap in your life.
You need to block him. He is NOT a nice man.
And you need to consider more therapy.

I will switch off my phone, and talk endlessly at my feiend to process it, wallow in being looked after for a bit and hopefully come out the other side a little bit more robust.

What will your friend say? Is it fair to talk to them like you've posted here? Is your friend really there to listen to you for 2 weeks? That's a big ask.
Better to book yourself a session with a counsellor and get someone with no emotional investment or agenda to offload to.

Edited

Honestly I think she's had too much therapy.

I've never read so much deluded, self indulgent navel gazing in my life.

I think what she needs is to stop storifying her life and reinventing sordid, sleazy little secrets as grand passions, and instead actually live her life outside the house and outside her head.

AllTheTreesOfTheField · 19/07/2026 15:48

Hopefully OP's friend is the sensible type who will redirect the narrative when necessary.

Horses7 · 19/07/2026 16:26

You’ve got grown up children - I must have skipped a bit because I thought you were very young/inexperienced in the world.
Just to repeat what I’ve said before - stop overthinking !
You know the guy is bad news so move on and stop with the self therapy and introspection…..it’s not working for you.
Concentrate on what makes you and your kids happy, keep busy and stop overthinking and self analysing, you’re just going round in circles.

Dirtyrose · 19/07/2026 16:53

You're very defensive when posters analyse your actions and point out things you don't like to hear. Sometimes' being supportive' means challenging what someone says and believes. If you've had therapy you will know this.

Suicide is a big leap. As I said, the details are unimportant but interesting that this is where you landed.

He saved my life. Not metaphorically. Actually literally.

It's more interesting you said he literally saved your life if he didn't.

I assumed you meant suicide or self-destruction. You're a writer. You should know how to use words and how they're interpreted. Saying this man 'saved my life-literally' - what else could you mean? Was it hyperbole?

Whatever you had was fake. An illusion. Good men do not behave like he did. You don't know him. No matter what conversations you had, you didn't know him. You only know what he wanted to tell you.
A real relationship only comes from the daily grind, seeing people in all sorts of situations, not a 'relationship' based on phone and messaging.

I don't think staying with a friend for 2 weeks to try to come to terms with this is the best plan. The less you talk about him the faster you will get over it. Otherwise it's feeding an obsession.

Besidemyselfwithworry · 19/07/2026 16:56

FannyCraddocksPantry · 18/07/2026 07:24

Can you summarise in a paragraph?

This
I can’t be arsed to read all that and from skimming why are you arsed with him?

Blueuggboots · 19/07/2026 17:03

Good lord. I read the first couple of paragraphs then gave up…..

Sporkmaiden · 19/07/2026 18:23

evh1978 · 19/07/2026 15:33

Suicide is a big leap. As I said, the details are unimportant but interesting that this is where you landed.

I really am here for support. Whilst it is wonderful to be called a glorified prostitute by you, I'd really just rather have helpful advice. The situation is incredibly nuanced and I am in total agreement that this man has been a total arse, and I have, because of a complicated set of circumstances, let it run away with me, I'm not sure implying I have resorted to sex work and suicide is overly helpful.

I'm not sure implying I have resorted to sex work and suicide is overly helpful.
This is an incredibly defensive reaction. The PP you were replying to didn’t imply you resorted to sex work - she pointed out that this is how he has been treating you. He has been using you, making you trust him so you’d send him photos, sext with him, and engage in sexual acts over FaceTime. Paying for things for your son was part of that. He wasn’t being altruistic, he wasn’t doing it because he cared about you - he did this to make you feel like you owed him something in return. And it worked.

Suicide is a big leap. As I said, the details are unimportant but interesting that this is where you landed.
Your exact words were:
“He saved my life. Not metaphorically. Actually literally. When we spent the summer together after we met. The details don't matter but he physically saved my life.”
Asking “He saved your life? Maybe you considered suicide and he talked you down?” isn’t an attack on you or your character, it’s a logical interpretation of the exact words you chose to type. Plus, she only questioned this to lead into making the point that “he never came to see you. It was all talk. For 2 years”…which is something you need to focus on WAY more than the “but he helped me because he cared!” narrative you’re currently stuck on.

Regardless of whatever traumatic incident happened that led to him literally, physically, actually saving your life…not only did this man make no effort to see you in person for TWO WHOLE YEARS, you’ve also shared that:
he knew about the trauma that had happened just before we met. He knew the specific details. And the effect it had on me. And he chose to repeat almost exactly the same trauma, just dressed up differently.
He has never genuinely cared about you. He has been manipulating you. You should be fucking furious.

You don’t need to “work up the courage” to block him when it’s as easy as clicking a button. Why plan two weeks of talking “endlessly” to “process” a non-relationship with a man you’ve seen once in two years who you haven’t even slept with…when you could just spend time with your real friend, who actually cares about you, and just enjoy the visit? Making a drama out of this isn’t going to help you.

Dirtyrose · 19/07/2026 18:29

The only other explanation of 'he saved my life, literally' could be he rescued you from a situation, maybe in water, a dangerous situation, or potentially being in a accident. Which presumably most people would do under the circumstances if they could.

But if that is what happened why be so obtuse?
And in the grand scheme of things after that, it doesn't make him a better or caring person.

Whatdidyoujustcallme · 19/07/2026 19:00

Maybe she had appendicitis and he was her surgeon?

B206 · 19/07/2026 19:09

Whatdidyoujustcallme · 19/07/2026 19:00

Maybe she had appendicitis and he was her surgeon?

Or he's a fireman?
Mountain rescue?
Her AA sponsor?
He donated a kidney to her?
They met when he saved her from muggers?
He called an ambulance when he found her passed out somewhere...

I suspect that despite her age but in keeping with her writing style, the OP is using literally in the modern way, and actually despite all protestations it was more of a figurative/ symbolic or convoluted theoretical life saving....

Dirtyrose · 19/07/2026 19:24

But she has insisted he saved her life literally not metaphorically.

Whatever he did, it didn't mean she had to spend two years in a virtual relationship. And I mean' virtual ' literally.

He would probably have done the same for anyone, if they' d been drowning, hanging off a mountain or about to walk out in front of a car.

B206 · 19/07/2026 19:43

Dirtyrose · 19/07/2026 19:24

But she has insisted he saved her life literally not metaphorically.

Whatever he did, it didn't mean she had to spend two years in a virtual relationship. And I mean' virtual ' literally.

He would probably have done the same for anyone, if they' d been drowning, hanging off a mountain or about to walk out in front of a car.

Yes - I just wasted several minutes of my life skimming back through and she says he "physically" saved her life.

A man saved me from being attacked when I was in my early 20s - he swerved off the road in his white van and jumped out, and the man who had grabbed me from behind and pulled me to the ground ran off.

Reader, I married him. Oops - no I didn't, nor did I have a relationship with him.

He waited to check I had a mobile to call the police and then he drove away. I'll always be grateful, but I was so shaken I didn't ask his name (which I should have done, if only because he was a witness).

dairydebris · 19/07/2026 19:50

God don't chew your friends ear off about this for ages- I actually shivered at the thought of it.
Have a few nice walks, some food and wine and discuss anything else other than this. It's over. Just block him and start moving along.

Dirtyrose · 20/07/2026 08:47

The reason you're being given a bit of a hard time here OP is first, the huge detail and self-obsession, rather than a summary. (Being a writer means choosing your words carefully and considering your audience. I know.)

But mainly because you've allowed this 'friendship' to continue for 2 years.
Most women would have given it a few weeks without meeting up. It's been the equivalent of a pen friend, but using phones and messages.

The 2 hour distance is a red herring. My DH and I had that- each of us did it every weekend for 2 years before we married. (And it wasn't just a simple one motorway drive- far more complicated.)

Stop thinking this was Mr Wonderful. Being charitable, he sounds a creep. Pushing it into sexting and more, making you feel 'special', being there (except he wasn't, actually) boosting your fragile ego after whatever else preceded him (another break up?) and so on.

He's not Mr Wonderful. He is most likely a liar, a control freak, only interested in himself, emotionally and physically unavailable, and he may have a woman in his life you know nothing about.

The reason people suggest you need therapy is it's taken you 2 years to suss this out . Even now it's 'poor me' rather than raging how you've been well and truly led up the garden path FOR TWO YEARS.

The emotional investment you've made.

300 messages a day on average (how do you write at all with your head taken up with that?) The impact on your sons if your head was somewhere else, waiting for the next message, the virtual sex, the pining for more.

He's a prize tosser. The sooner you accept that the easier it will be to get over him. Keep telling yourself 'He is not Mr Wonderful, he's a creep.'