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He says I am not single, but will not see me

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evh1978 · 18/07/2026 07:17

I met a man two years ago through a mutual friend. We became good friends very quickly and, because of the circumstances at the time, spent most of that summer seeing each other as friends almost every day.
I was in the middle of a very dark period of my life, with a huge amount of change and emotional upheaval. I freely acknowledge that it was probably the worst period of my life. I was about as far away from the real me as I could possibly have been when he met me.
At the end of the summer, I returned to where I lived and slowly had to start rebuilding my life.
He was there.
Every day.
Phone calls. WhatsApp messages.
He was always very practically minded. He never let me wallow in the emotion of it all. He would call to see whether I had showered. Over time, as I rebuilt, he helped me find the tools I needed to rebuild my life rather than trying to do it for me.
I had been through things that left me with significant trauma and a profound loss of trust. I had stopped trusting almost everyone. He knew the full extent of what had happened and had been one of the very few people I allowed close to me.
I am a highly expressive and emotional person. I feel my way through life using emotions and language. I think in long form. I analyse everything.
I am also, I think, highly emotionally intelligent. I am very attuned to my own emotions and to the emotions of other people. I can usually see what is happening underneath a conversation, and I tend to want to talk about it.
He is almost the opposite.
He is pragmatic, grounded and emotionally contained. He tends to look at a problem and ask what can be done about it. I tend to want to understand what it means, why it happened and what is happening underneath it.
He also struggles with my emotionality. He frequently criticises the way I feel things or the intensity with which I express them. He has told me that he hates feeling responsible for other people's feelings.
I have tried to explain to him that there is a difference between being responsible for somebody else's feelings and being responsible for the impact of our behaviour on someone we are in an intimate relationship with.
We do not get to behave however we like and then say that someone else's feelings are entirely their own problem.
He has been married twice. From what he has told me, both marriages involved him being emotionally distant and unavailable in ways he now recognises. He has described himself as someone who has historically struggled with emotional intimacy.
I have wondered whether he has an avoidant attachment style, although I am very aware that people are far too fond of diagnosing everyone as avoidant simply because they don't behave in the way we want them to.
What makes him difficult to understand is that he is not generally distant from me.
In fact, the opposite is true.
He is extraordinarily present in my life. He talks to me constantly. He is often the first and last person I speak to in a day. He will spend hours talking to me. He has been there through some of the most difficult things I have ever experienced.
So I don't think the simple explanation is that he is an emotionally unavailable man who doesn't want intimacy.
He seems to want an enormous amount of intimacy with me.
The difficulty appears to be that he is much more comfortable with intimacy when it remains within certain boundaries that he controls.
He can be deeply emotionally connected to me through conversation. He can be intensely sexually intimate with me remotely. He can be incredibly present and involved in my daily life.
But real-life romantic intimacy seems to activate something different in him.
That is the contradiction I cannot resolve.
We became extremely close, although after that summer our friendship was conducted almost entirely over the phone and WhatsApp.
The few short relationships I tried during that period all had one undercurrent of a problem: the man I was seeing would eventually feel threatened by my friendship with him.
Not because they were insecure men, necessarily. But because of how heavily I lean on my friend and how present he is and was in my day-to-day life.
One of these short relationships was with a man who lived overseas. I would fly to see him regularly. But my friend was the person I would text:
Let me know you've landed.
I've landed safely.
I'm in an Uber now.
I recognise that this is probably backwards.
Anyway, fast forward to the start of this year.
I was finally in a better place. Not fixed or healed, but definitely further forward.
There has always been a level of chemistry and attraction between us, but it had never been acted upon.
Earlier this year, however, he started to drive our relationship in that direction.
I followed.
In trust.
We ended up becoming very sexually intimate remotely, through phone calls, WhatsApp and video calls. Every day. Our level of contact grew even more. I did the maths once. We averaged around 300 messages a day.
Every day.
Plus phone calls.
Plus video calls.
Plus the sexual intimacy.
I had known him for two years by this point. I trusted him more than I trusted almost anyone. I had allowed myself to become emotionally and sexually intimate with the person who had been the safest and most constant person in my life.
And, inevitably, I fell in love with him.
Naturally, I asked him what we now were.
We were both scared of losing the friendship. It was agreed that we weren't friends with benefits. It was agreed that we weren't just friends.
For all intents and purposes, we were in a relationship.
But he struggled immensely with that title.
I was at a work event once and met a man there. We got on very well. He asked for my number and asked whether I was single.
I honestly didn't know what to say.
So I told my friend that night what had happened.
There is something else that is important to understand about this relationship: there is an extraordinary amount of honesty between us. Probably more from me. He is much more guarded, although he has opened up considerably over time.
He has more insight into my day-to-day life than I have into his.
Anyway, I asked him:
Am I single?
Eventually, he said no.
But it was a very begrudging no.
It did not come easily to him.
Seeing each other in person, however, has been a struggle.
I wanted to desperately. But he always had multiple reasons why we couldn't.
To be clear, we live around two hours apart. One motorway separates us. We both drive. He keeps an apartment in London for work purposes. I live in London.
He does have a demanding job. He is a single parent. He has complicated circumstances involving his parents' health and a dog. But he co-parents well with his son's mother and, while his logistics are undoubtedly complicated, I would not say they are more complicated than those of an average 53-year-old man with a demanding life.
For context, he has never had a fling or a one-night stand. He has only ever been with a relatively small number of women, all in serious, long-term relationships.
He struggles deeply with emotional intimacy.
So we coasted along for a while, but inevitably I started asking why he wouldn't see me.
I had been immensely vulnerable with him sexually, digitally, but I was increasingly scared that I was simply a digital plaything.
I had never agreed to that.
I repeatedly told him that I would not have entered into the sexual side of our relationship if I believed it was going to remain purely digital. I was very clear that, for me, it was heading towards a relationship that existed in real life.
He repeatedly reassured me that I wasn't a digital plaything.
He told me that he wanted to translate what we had into real life.
But we have met once.
In all this time, we have met once: one afternoon at his flat in London, where he was still working.
We had lunch.
We did not have sex.
It was incredibly confusing for me.
We made a plan to meet the following week.
He cancelled.
We made another plan for the week after.
He cancelled that too.
I have repeatedly tried to ask him, calmly and directly, what he actually wants.
I have not demanded declarations of undying love or issued ultimatums. I have tried to ask for clarity in what I believe are kind and healthy ways.
But whenever I ask for clarity, he becomes defensive and shuts down. I end up frustrated, and then the conversation becomes about my frustration rather than the question I originally asked.
I have also tried giving him space, hoping that if I stopped asking and allowed him room, he would come towards me himself with some clarity.
That doesn't work either.
I have told him explicitly that I do not do well living in confusion. I have told him that if he is not able to be in a relationship with me, I would rather know.
I have given him repeated opportunities, with dignity and without drama, to walk away.
I have said, in essence: if this is not what you want, you can tell me. I will be hurt, but I would rather have the truth than continue living in ambiguity.
He has always stayed.
He has told me he will never leave me.
But I have also told him that, now that our friendship has crossed into what it is, I will never be able to return to simply being friends.
I love him too deeply.
The contradiction is that he tells me he cannot commit, but also tells me that I am not single and that he will never leave me.
He tells me he wasn't ready for a relationship, but that I came along and changed things for him.
He tells me he cannot give me a relationship, but does not want to lose me.
He wants the emotional and sexual intimacy of what we have, but becomes defensive when I ask what it actually means.
He is, in many ways, a walking contradiction.
And I have reached the point where I don't know whether I am being compassionate towards somebody who is genuinely frightened and emotionally limited, or whether I am allowing somebody to keep me in a situation that is profoundly painful because I love him.
This is not, in my view, a love-language issue.
If he were a man I had met on Bumble and this were the beginning of our relationship, I would be running a mile in the other direction.
I would probably be warning every other woman I knew to stay away.
The difficulty is that he is not a man I met on Bumble.
He is the man who was there when I was at the lowest point in my life.
He is the man who helped me rebuild.
He is the person I have spoken to every day for two years.
He is the person I trusted enough to become vulnerable with.
He is also the person who now seems unable or unwilling to give me clarity about the relationship he helped create.
On his most recent cancellation of our plans, I asked him to propose another day.
He point-blank refused.
I found this incredibly difficult. My position was that, in my experience, when you cancel plans with someone, you apologise and propose an alternative if you actually want to see them.
He did not.
When I explained why I found that hurtful and confusing, he called me controlling.
That was a significant moment for me.
I do not believe that asking somebody who has cancelled plans to suggest another day is controlling.
I believe it is a normal expectation of somebody who wants to maintain a relationship.
I am now in a period of no contact with him because I simply could not tolerate the ambiguity and the repeated disrespect of my time any longer.
I love him deeply. On many levels.
And if I am brutally honest, I wonder whether the intensity of my attachment to him is partly a consequence of the role he played in helping me survive and rebuild.
He was there when I was at my lowest.
He became the person I trusted most.
He became part of my daily life and my emotional world.
That makes walking away extraordinarily difficult.
Leaving him and walking away from everything we have would cause me significant emotional damage.
Given everything I have already been through, that is not a prospect I am taking lightly.
But I also cannot see a way forward.
And I am now beginning to wonder whether he ever actually intended to make this relationship physical.
Perhaps he genuinely meant it whenever he said he wanted to.
Perhaps he believed he would eventually be able to do it.
Perhaps he loves me in whatever way he is capable of loving somebody.
But perhaps, in practical terms, he has created a relationship that gives him almost everything he wants while allowing him to avoid the one thing I need.
A relationship that exists in reality.
So what exactly is happening here?
Am I looking at a man who genuinely loves me but is terrified of real-life intimacy?
Am I looking at a man who has created a relationship that gives him all the emotional and sexual intimacy he wants without requiring him to take the risks of a real relationship?
Am I being manipulated, even if he does not consciously intend to manipulate me?
Or am I somehow both right?
And perhaps the most difficult question is this:
If somebody genuinely loves you, but is unable or unwilling to give you the relationship you need, does the reason ultimately matter?

I am waking up every day now, and my overriding feeling is that I feel used. And defective. I feel like I am not good enough for him to want in real life and I was only ever good enough for some digital fun. But what an elaborate route to get there for him....

OP posts:
Helgirl666 · 18/07/2026 09:18

OP. I read everything you said very carefully as I would expect anyone responding to also do. Frankly if people expect you to take on board their advice the least they could do is take the time to read your post in full.

You are clearly a very emotionally aware individual in may ways but also appear to be down playing ur dependence and obsession with this man. You come across as very intense and a little 'bunny boiler.'

He clearly has been using you as a free version of 'only fans' and has no intention of this being an in the flesh relationship.

Switch off your devices and return to the real world x

Atleastthedoglikesme · 18/07/2026 09:23

I think you needed someone to lean on when you were vulnerable, and he was able to take on that role, can do those rules.

However for whatever reason real intimacy scares him. He can do it behind a screen but not in person. This is a shame but it is what it is.

This means he cannot ever be the partner you hoped he might be given how non-sexually supportive he was when you were just friends.

It's also trapping you into not being able to move on with guys who could become everything because this guy is everything except a proper partner.

So it's time to make a decision. Is this enough? Because it's all you are going to get. (The answer is very clearly, no). In that case you need to stop having him as a de facto partner who won't meet up with you or sleep with you. Treat it as a break up. Move on with someone who can do intimacy.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 18/07/2026 09:27

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 08:55

Thank you. I appreciate this.
I do recognise, that when written down, I come across as nothing other than a sentimental dick.
The situation, as they always are, is nuanced, but everyone's overall opinion seems to be right that, for whatever the reason, this isn't a good situation for me.
Life hasn't stopped for him. I'm still raising 3 children and working full time and running a charity I founded that supports victims of DV (there's an irony here i know), and travelling and writing the book and managing a difficult co parenting relationship with my ex husband and maintaining friendships and somehow having a social life in all of that, but I guess my friend was just someone I grew to count on. It hurts to think all along I didn't matter

You mattered. You were what he wanted to do, how he wanted to spend time. Maybe he’s a white knight type. Whatever, you will have filled a hole in his life.

He isn’t enough for you though. What he wants isn’t enough for you. You spice up his life, he doesn’t turn up in your world.

And you know you matter. You matter to many, many people. He just doesn’t want what you need.

This isn’t, about you, it’s about him.

Sporkmaiden · 18/07/2026 09:27

Short(ish) summary for those who were defeated by the wall of text:
OP was having a hard time 2yrs ago, met a man through a mutual friend, and they saw each other almost every day for a few weeks. After OP went back home to London the ‘friendship’ moved exclusively to phone/WhatsApp, despite this man working in London so often he has an apartment there.
The man has been married twice, and describes himself as someone who “struggles with emotional intimacy.” They’ve never had sex, have only seen each other once since OP went back to London, and he’s cancelled every time they’ve made plans after that meeting. OP considers herself highly emotionally intelligent and believes she is in a romantic relationship with this man.

We ended up becoming very sexually intimate remotely, through phone calls, WhatsApp and video calls.
That’s not “very sexually intimate”, it’s sexting. It’s nothing. When he’s not visible on screen, for all you know he could be cleaning the toilet/making a sandwich/chatting to his wife.

Seeing each other in person, however, has been a struggle. . . he always had multiple reasons why we couldn't.
He works in London so often he has an apartment there. You live in London. There’s fuck all reason for seeing each other to be difficult; he’s making excuses.

He seems to want an enormous amount of intimacy with me.
No, he doesn’t. He doesn’t even want to see you in person. He might like the ego boost of knowing you’re interested in him, but it seems like he’s actively avoiding you.

He’s called you controlling for asking to rearrange cancelled plans, he gets defensive, he criticises your emotions, and he can’t be arsed to make even the smallest amount of effort to see you. You’ve only met ONCE in two years and didn’t even have sex when you did. He doesn’t give a shit if any of this is upsetting for you.

You said:
there is an extraordinary amount of honesty between us. Probably more from me. He is much more guarded
and
He has more insight into my day-to-day life than I have into his.
Come on OP, he’s almost certainly still married to the woman he has such a fantastic co-parenting relationship with. (When he’s not in London and avoiding you, does he still live with his ‘ex’? Maybe for financial reasons, or for the kids, or while they wait for a house sale to go through, or something like that?)

You want a proper relationship, he’s clearly not interested in having that with you. You don’t need him to decide to put a stop to this; reclaim your self-respect and do it yourself. Move on, get some therapy, then maybe at some point in the future you can go be happy with somebody who actually likes you. This guy doesn’t care about you at all.

mmmarmalade · 18/07/2026 09:30

Suffocating. Abnormal.

Mygiddyvalentine · 18/07/2026 09:31

ToKittyornottoKitty · 18/07/2026 07:24

Honestly OP I skim read that as it was incredibly long and detailed. But you sound like you need a clean break from this guy, this is way too much and you sound pretty different. Nethermind the fact you live hours away. Give yourself a break and move on.

Great response and definitely this is your answer.

Betadelta · 18/07/2026 09:32

He reassures you that you're not his digital plaything, but actions speak louder than words. He is very very ready to engage with you sexually online but refuses to meet up with you in person. To the extent of calling you controlling when you try to arrange a date!

Ethelspagetti · 18/07/2026 09:33

It is not a real relationship is it?! It’s all online setting and asking if you’re okay messages. It’s stopping you from living your life. Put him on mute and go and enjoy your life. We all go through bad patches and we pull ourselves up. You do not need this man at all. You could block him when you’re ready. It is interfering with real life relationships isn’t it?! I wouldn’t continue to date a man who never stopped texting a female friend and checking in on them!

Think I’d send him a message saying that, I am grateful for all the supportive messages you’ve sent me when I was going through a bad patch. However since the relationship’s turned sexual, I’ve found this relationship confusing and it’s interfering with my real life. I need to move past our online relationship and meet someone in real life. I feel as though it is not healthy for me to continue our relationship, especially since you’ve said you are not single. Then when he’s read it, block him. Perhaps look into counselling so you have someone to offload to when you need to.

MarilynMerlot · 18/07/2026 09:35

With CPTSD this makes complete sense. I can say that because in my 30s I could have written your post almost to the letter. It's only after work with a trauma specialist that I have different relationships.

OP, I say this with utmost gentleness, but you are never going to 'win' in this, you have obviously had a deep, enmeshed friendship with this man when you were vulnerable, it was important to you and I don't think anyone gets to dismiss that, but now your brain is on a loop obsessing about how to cement whatever validation it wants from him, and he is so clearly someone who can't give it. As you'll know, people with Cptsd also often have deeply avoidant tendencies ourselves - often hidden by how 'emotionally aware' we present - what is really stopping you from putting down this completely unworkable man? From his 'intimacy' at a very safe distance?

Please don't let hypervigilant analysis brain destroy what remains of your time. It will hurt to let him go, it really will, but it will also free you. How much more time do you want to spend writing essays about a guy who won't see you? It's so hard to detach, but at some point you must stop pouring your sensitivity into someone who doesn't want it. It's the hardest lesson people like us must learn.

TakeThatAndParty81 · 18/07/2026 09:39

Stop analysing him and start believing his actions. Two years, hundreds of messages a day, phone/video sex, and you’ve met once despite living only two hours apart. That’s not a relationship - it’s a remote situationship entirely on his terms.
Whether he’s avoidant, frightened or simply comfortable with the arrangement doesn’t change the outcome. He gets the emotional and sexual intimacy he wants without having to build a real-life relationship.
Stay no contact. Get some therapy to work through why you’ve accepted so little for so long and why this attachment became so powerful. Then find someone who actually wants to spend time with you in real life, not just through a screen.

B206 · 18/07/2026 09:40

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 07:17

I met a man two years ago through a mutual friend. We became good friends very quickly and, because of the circumstances at the time, spent most of that summer seeing each other as friends almost every day.
I was in the middle of a very dark period of my life, with a huge amount of change and emotional upheaval. I freely acknowledge that it was probably the worst period of my life. I was about as far away from the real me as I could possibly have been when he met me.
At the end of the summer, I returned to where I lived and slowly had to start rebuilding my life.
He was there.
Every day.
Phone calls. WhatsApp messages.
He was always very practically minded. He never let me wallow in the emotion of it all. He would call to see whether I had showered. Over time, as I rebuilt, he helped me find the tools I needed to rebuild my life rather than trying to do it for me.
I had been through things that left me with significant trauma and a profound loss of trust. I had stopped trusting almost everyone. He knew the full extent of what had happened and had been one of the very few people I allowed close to me.
I am a highly expressive and emotional person. I feel my way through life using emotions and language. I think in long form. I analyse everything.
I am also, I think, highly emotionally intelligent. I am very attuned to my own emotions and to the emotions of other people. I can usually see what is happening underneath a conversation, and I tend to want to talk about it.
He is almost the opposite.
He is pragmatic, grounded and emotionally contained. He tends to look at a problem and ask what can be done about it. I tend to want to understand what it means, why it happened and what is happening underneath it.
He also struggles with my emotionality. He frequently criticises the way I feel things or the intensity with which I express them. He has told me that he hates feeling responsible for other people's feelings.
I have tried to explain to him that there is a difference between being responsible for somebody else's feelings and being responsible for the impact of our behaviour on someone we are in an intimate relationship with.
We do not get to behave however we like and then say that someone else's feelings are entirely their own problem.
He has been married twice. From what he has told me, both marriages involved him being emotionally distant and unavailable in ways he now recognises. He has described himself as someone who has historically struggled with emotional intimacy.
I have wondered whether he has an avoidant attachment style, although I am very aware that people are far too fond of diagnosing everyone as avoidant simply because they don't behave in the way we want them to.
What makes him difficult to understand is that he is not generally distant from me.
In fact, the opposite is true.
He is extraordinarily present in my life. He talks to me constantly. He is often the first and last person I speak to in a day. He will spend hours talking to me. He has been there through some of the most difficult things I have ever experienced.
So I don't think the simple explanation is that he is an emotionally unavailable man who doesn't want intimacy.
He seems to want an enormous amount of intimacy with me.
The difficulty appears to be that he is much more comfortable with intimacy when it remains within certain boundaries that he controls.
He can be deeply emotionally connected to me through conversation. He can be intensely sexually intimate with me remotely. He can be incredibly present and involved in my daily life.
But real-life romantic intimacy seems to activate something different in him.
That is the contradiction I cannot resolve.
We became extremely close, although after that summer our friendship was conducted almost entirely over the phone and WhatsApp.
The few short relationships I tried during that period all had one undercurrent of a problem: the man I was seeing would eventually feel threatened by my friendship with him.
Not because they were insecure men, necessarily. But because of how heavily I lean on my friend and how present he is and was in my day-to-day life.
One of these short relationships was with a man who lived overseas. I would fly to see him regularly. But my friend was the person I would text:
Let me know you've landed.
I've landed safely.
I'm in an Uber now.
I recognise that this is probably backwards.
Anyway, fast forward to the start of this year.
I was finally in a better place. Not fixed or healed, but definitely further forward.
There has always been a level of chemistry and attraction between us, but it had never been acted upon.
Earlier this year, however, he started to drive our relationship in that direction.
I followed.
In trust.
We ended up becoming very sexually intimate remotely, through phone calls, WhatsApp and video calls. Every day. Our level of contact grew even more. I did the maths once. We averaged around 300 messages a day.
Every day.
Plus phone calls.
Plus video calls.
Plus the sexual intimacy.
I had known him for two years by this point. I trusted him more than I trusted almost anyone. I had allowed myself to become emotionally and sexually intimate with the person who had been the safest and most constant person in my life.
And, inevitably, I fell in love with him.
Naturally, I asked him what we now were.
We were both scared of losing the friendship. It was agreed that we weren't friends with benefits. It was agreed that we weren't just friends.
For all intents and purposes, we were in a relationship.
But he struggled immensely with that title.
I was at a work event once and met a man there. We got on very well. He asked for my number and asked whether I was single.
I honestly didn't know what to say.
So I told my friend that night what had happened.
There is something else that is important to understand about this relationship: there is an extraordinary amount of honesty between us. Probably more from me. He is much more guarded, although he has opened up considerably over time.
He has more insight into my day-to-day life than I have into his.
Anyway, I asked him:
Am I single?
Eventually, he said no.
But it was a very begrudging no.
It did not come easily to him.
Seeing each other in person, however, has been a struggle.
I wanted to desperately. But he always had multiple reasons why we couldn't.
To be clear, we live around two hours apart. One motorway separates us. We both drive. He keeps an apartment in London for work purposes. I live in London.
He does have a demanding job. He is a single parent. He has complicated circumstances involving his parents' health and a dog. But he co-parents well with his son's mother and, while his logistics are undoubtedly complicated, I would not say they are more complicated than those of an average 53-year-old man with a demanding life.
For context, he has never had a fling or a one-night stand. He has only ever been with a relatively small number of women, all in serious, long-term relationships.
He struggles deeply with emotional intimacy.
So we coasted along for a while, but inevitably I started asking why he wouldn't see me.
I had been immensely vulnerable with him sexually, digitally, but I was increasingly scared that I was simply a digital plaything.
I had never agreed to that.
I repeatedly told him that I would not have entered into the sexual side of our relationship if I believed it was going to remain purely digital. I was very clear that, for me, it was heading towards a relationship that existed in real life.
He repeatedly reassured me that I wasn't a digital plaything.
He told me that he wanted to translate what we had into real life.
But we have met once.
In all this time, we have met once: one afternoon at his flat in London, where he was still working.
We had lunch.
We did not have sex.
It was incredibly confusing for me.
We made a plan to meet the following week.
He cancelled.
We made another plan for the week after.
He cancelled that too.
I have repeatedly tried to ask him, calmly and directly, what he actually wants.
I have not demanded declarations of undying love or issued ultimatums. I have tried to ask for clarity in what I believe are kind and healthy ways.
But whenever I ask for clarity, he becomes defensive and shuts down. I end up frustrated, and then the conversation becomes about my frustration rather than the question I originally asked.
I have also tried giving him space, hoping that if I stopped asking and allowed him room, he would come towards me himself with some clarity.
That doesn't work either.
I have told him explicitly that I do not do well living in confusion. I have told him that if he is not able to be in a relationship with me, I would rather know.
I have given him repeated opportunities, with dignity and without drama, to walk away.
I have said, in essence: if this is not what you want, you can tell me. I will be hurt, but I would rather have the truth than continue living in ambiguity.
He has always stayed.
He has told me he will never leave me.
But I have also told him that, now that our friendship has crossed into what it is, I will never be able to return to simply being friends.
I love him too deeply.
The contradiction is that he tells me he cannot commit, but also tells me that I am not single and that he will never leave me.
He tells me he wasn't ready for a relationship, but that I came along and changed things for him.
He tells me he cannot give me a relationship, but does not want to lose me.
He wants the emotional and sexual intimacy of what we have, but becomes defensive when I ask what it actually means.
He is, in many ways, a walking contradiction.
And I have reached the point where I don't know whether I am being compassionate towards somebody who is genuinely frightened and emotionally limited, or whether I am allowing somebody to keep me in a situation that is profoundly painful because I love him.
This is not, in my view, a love-language issue.
If he were a man I had met on Bumble and this were the beginning of our relationship, I would be running a mile in the other direction.
I would probably be warning every other woman I knew to stay away.
The difficulty is that he is not a man I met on Bumble.
He is the man who was there when I was at the lowest point in my life.
He is the man who helped me rebuild.
He is the person I have spoken to every day for two years.
He is the person I trusted enough to become vulnerable with.
He is also the person who now seems unable or unwilling to give me clarity about the relationship he helped create.
On his most recent cancellation of our plans, I asked him to propose another day.
He point-blank refused.
I found this incredibly difficult. My position was that, in my experience, when you cancel plans with someone, you apologise and propose an alternative if you actually want to see them.
He did not.
When I explained why I found that hurtful and confusing, he called me controlling.
That was a significant moment for me.
I do not believe that asking somebody who has cancelled plans to suggest another day is controlling.
I believe it is a normal expectation of somebody who wants to maintain a relationship.
I am now in a period of no contact with him because I simply could not tolerate the ambiguity and the repeated disrespect of my time any longer.
I love him deeply. On many levels.
And if I am brutally honest, I wonder whether the intensity of my attachment to him is partly a consequence of the role he played in helping me survive and rebuild.
He was there when I was at my lowest.
He became the person I trusted most.
He became part of my daily life and my emotional world.
That makes walking away extraordinarily difficult.
Leaving him and walking away from everything we have would cause me significant emotional damage.
Given everything I have already been through, that is not a prospect I am taking lightly.
But I also cannot see a way forward.
And I am now beginning to wonder whether he ever actually intended to make this relationship physical.
Perhaps he genuinely meant it whenever he said he wanted to.
Perhaps he believed he would eventually be able to do it.
Perhaps he loves me in whatever way he is capable of loving somebody.
But perhaps, in practical terms, he has created a relationship that gives him almost everything he wants while allowing him to avoid the one thing I need.
A relationship that exists in reality.
So what exactly is happening here?
Am I looking at a man who genuinely loves me but is terrified of real-life intimacy?
Am I looking at a man who has created a relationship that gives him all the emotional and sexual intimacy he wants without requiring him to take the risks of a real relationship?
Am I being manipulated, even if he does not consciously intend to manipulate me?
Or am I somehow both right?
And perhaps the most difficult question is this:
If somebody genuinely loves you, but is unable or unwilling to give you the relationship you need, does the reason ultimately matter?

I am waking up every day now, and my overriding feeling is that I feel used. And defective. I feel like I am not good enough for him to want in real life and I was only ever good enough for some digital fun. But what an elaborate route to get there for him....

This reads like something you've had AI write - all the "He was X.
Not because Y. Not because Z. But because pseudo profound thing".

Even "I asked him whether I was single" - well what an odd way to ask whether you're together/ exclusive?

You don't sound emotionally intelligent at all - although you do sound self absorbed and as though you spend a lot of time talking to a chatbot you use as a therapist.

He sounds controlling - why did he latch onto you at your "darkest" time, and why does he stalk you digitally, do you think?

Pull off the sticking plaster and end your odd, potentially dangerously controlling enmeshed friendship, and stop using AI for relationships.

MargoisanA1arsehole · 18/07/2026 09:44

BrickProblems · 18/07/2026 07:34

Summary I think is OP developed a close friendship with this guy two years ago and he was very supportive of her at that time when her life was at a really difficult point. Fast forward to this year he tried it on with her over phone/message and she reciprocated so they’ve been sexting/video calls etc but he won’t meet up with her or make the relationship real. She’s fed up.

Thank you for the summary! I just couldn’t read it all - too wordy.

Jellycatspyjamas · 18/07/2026 09:47

Ethelspagetti · 18/07/2026 09:33

It is not a real relationship is it?! It’s all online setting and asking if you’re okay messages. It’s stopping you from living your life. Put him on mute and go and enjoy your life. We all go through bad patches and we pull ourselves up. You do not need this man at all. You could block him when you’re ready. It is interfering with real life relationships isn’t it?! I wouldn’t continue to date a man who never stopped texting a female friend and checking in on them!

Think I’d send him a message saying that, I am grateful for all the supportive messages you’ve sent me when I was going through a bad patch. However since the relationship’s turned sexual, I’ve found this relationship confusing and it’s interfering with my real life. I need to move past our online relationship and meet someone in real life. I feel as though it is not healthy for me to continue our relationship, especially since you’ve said you are not single. Then when he’s read it, block him. Perhaps look into counselling so you have someone to offload to when you need to.

I wouldn’t send that message - far too many ways for him to work his way back in. If you feel the need to explain at all I’d just say this isn’t working for me. No need to explain more than you already have, no need to end it nicely (he’s been abusive, you don’t owe him anything).

Elsvieta · 18/07/2026 09:48

He's just not that into you.

Your "emotional intelligence" is, gently, not quite as developed as you think it is.

JustAboutHangingInThere · 18/07/2026 09:48

You’re looking for something with this man he can’t/wont provide. You’ve tried to push the relationship forward without success. His reluctance is an answer. No point trying to unpick the whys. You sound like you have a full and busy life without him. I think it’s time for you to move on from him. Good luck xx

daisychain01 · 18/07/2026 09:49

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 08:57

Not really. I'm mid 40s. He's 53

He probably got high on your dependency to him, sort of Jesus Complex. While you were at your most vulnerable he enjoyed the idea that he could somehow save you from yourself. In layperson's terms, he's an abusive dick, you deserve better and the best you can do is erase the past 24 months from your memory and make living your best life the revenge.

AImportantMermaid · 18/07/2026 09:49

Good grief, relationships shouldn’t be this hard. Just ditch him. He’s not good for you.

MayaPyjama · 18/07/2026 09:52

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 18/07/2026 07:55

This…. A wall of text.
i got as far as highly expressive and emotional person. I feel my way through life using emotions and language. I think in long form. I analyse everything.
I am also, I think, highly emotionally intelligent. I am very attuned to my own emotions and to the emotions of other people. I can usually see what is happening underneath a conversation, and I tend to want to talk about it.

do you see yourself as an ‘empath’ @evh1978 ?
I find those that do exhausting and the “see what’s underneath a conversation and tend to want to talk about it” usually is just them wanting to show off about their empath skills..

I thought the same… it seemed directly contradictory to describing yourself as emotionally intelligent, but rather someone who needs to post mortem every conversation and that’s frankly, dull and exhausting.

I only read the first half of the OP and was exhausted by the introspection of it all. Some things are not that deep (as the kids say).

A successful relationship involves two people wanting the same things and life goals. That is not what you have here. You might love him, but that’s not enough to build a life with someone. So I’d suggest you tell him that you are in fact single, and are pro actively looking for a relationship, and if the right person comes along you might need to dial your friendship back a bit.

If he doesn’t like it he can step up and be what you need, but I expect he’ll actually just accept that and you’ll drift apart and your life will ultimately be happier for it.

CloudyWithAChanceOfCustard · 18/07/2026 09:52

I would say you are the exact opposite of ‘emotionally intelligent’ OP. In fact I’d go as far as saying you are emotionally very vulnerable! Nothing intelligent at all about what you’ve written here about yourself…you’ve fallen in love with an emotionally and physically unavailable man who is using you for wank fodder.

He is NOT your friend…he’s a weirdo who manipulates women. You’ve been manipulated. It’s all just so bloody weird!

Get counselling OP…you need it to stop this happening again. And block this weird and abusive (yes…what he’s doing is abusive) man from your life! 🤯

Xanhi · 18/07/2026 09:53

I am not sure you are that highly attuned to other people's emotions. How soon after his marriage break up did you meet him? Was he over that relationship? His intense texting style suggests he might not have been. From reading your post it sounds like you were both using each other for company and distraction to get over other people/trauma and now it is time to move on.

BrickProblems · 18/07/2026 09:54

OP if you work with survivors of DV you must be so familiar with women trying to take control over their own lives. Even asking this guy “am I single” is handing him weird control over you. He’s not your owner. “Are we in a relationship?” is the more mutual way of framing this.

He wants to be single but you not to be single, I’m sure you can see how sick and unkind that is. He just wants to squat in your boyfriend space preventing you from meeting someone with whom you can have a fair and equal partnership. Say no to it by keeping the no contact permanent.

bittertwisted · 18/07/2026 09:55

At risk of hijacking someone’s thread, but what you said has helped me so much, the realisation my hyper vigilance is explainable, my lack of barriers, the people pleasing
its a trauma response

anyway back to the OP, please listen to this very insightful advice, it has been incredibly useful for me, you need to take pow from it too

BrickProblems · 18/07/2026 09:56

But also don’t feel you need to make this more painful by assuming “he was just using me all along”. It was a helpful relationship, then it turned bad. That might be easier to take.

JLou08 · 18/07/2026 09:57

I'm not sure you are emotionally intelligent. You don't seem to recognise how your intensity could be overwhelming for someone, or how someone could feel both tied to you and scared to be close to you when you are so intense, saying you deeply love someone and would be significantly emotionally damaged if the 'relationship' ended when you've only met once isn't healthy and places a huge burden on them. Especially when they have helped you 'rebuild'.
Instead of focusing on him and diagnosing him with an avoident attachment style focus on you. Cut contact with him and take responsibility for your own wellbeing. This is not healthy. I'm not saying he is blameless, but he is not in your control and he is not your responsibility. You need to work on you.

Hollycoco · 18/07/2026 09:58

This man is married. He is using you as a toy to play with, for phone sex and cheap thrills to boost his ego. You will never get any more from this man. He is using you clear as day, and is happy to string you along and destroy you in the process.

It is no coincidence that he came into your life and latched on to you when you were in a dark place and struggling emotionally. Men like him have a radar for weak prey (sorry if that sounds harsh, I don’t mean it to be mean, more to try help you wake up and see him for what he is.)

Have you ever tried therapy? Can you afford it? I would highly recommend it if you can. You deserve so much better than this.