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He says I am not single, but will not see me

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evh1978 · 18/07/2026 07:17

I met a man two years ago through a mutual friend. We became good friends very quickly and, because of the circumstances at the time, spent most of that summer seeing each other as friends almost every day.
I was in the middle of a very dark period of my life, with a huge amount of change and emotional upheaval. I freely acknowledge that it was probably the worst period of my life. I was about as far away from the real me as I could possibly have been when he met me.
At the end of the summer, I returned to where I lived and slowly had to start rebuilding my life.
He was there.
Every day.
Phone calls. WhatsApp messages.
He was always very practically minded. He never let me wallow in the emotion of it all. He would call to see whether I had showered. Over time, as I rebuilt, he helped me find the tools I needed to rebuild my life rather than trying to do it for me.
I had been through things that left me with significant trauma and a profound loss of trust. I had stopped trusting almost everyone. He knew the full extent of what had happened and had been one of the very few people I allowed close to me.
I am a highly expressive and emotional person. I feel my way through life using emotions and language. I think in long form. I analyse everything.
I am also, I think, highly emotionally intelligent. I am very attuned to my own emotions and to the emotions of other people. I can usually see what is happening underneath a conversation, and I tend to want to talk about it.
He is almost the opposite.
He is pragmatic, grounded and emotionally contained. He tends to look at a problem and ask what can be done about it. I tend to want to understand what it means, why it happened and what is happening underneath it.
He also struggles with my emotionality. He frequently criticises the way I feel things or the intensity with which I express them. He has told me that he hates feeling responsible for other people's feelings.
I have tried to explain to him that there is a difference between being responsible for somebody else's feelings and being responsible for the impact of our behaviour on someone we are in an intimate relationship with.
We do not get to behave however we like and then say that someone else's feelings are entirely their own problem.
He has been married twice. From what he has told me, both marriages involved him being emotionally distant and unavailable in ways he now recognises. He has described himself as someone who has historically struggled with emotional intimacy.
I have wondered whether he has an avoidant attachment style, although I am very aware that people are far too fond of diagnosing everyone as avoidant simply because they don't behave in the way we want them to.
What makes him difficult to understand is that he is not generally distant from me.
In fact, the opposite is true.
He is extraordinarily present in my life. He talks to me constantly. He is often the first and last person I speak to in a day. He will spend hours talking to me. He has been there through some of the most difficult things I have ever experienced.
So I don't think the simple explanation is that he is an emotionally unavailable man who doesn't want intimacy.
He seems to want an enormous amount of intimacy with me.
The difficulty appears to be that he is much more comfortable with intimacy when it remains within certain boundaries that he controls.
He can be deeply emotionally connected to me through conversation. He can be intensely sexually intimate with me remotely. He can be incredibly present and involved in my daily life.
But real-life romantic intimacy seems to activate something different in him.
That is the contradiction I cannot resolve.
We became extremely close, although after that summer our friendship was conducted almost entirely over the phone and WhatsApp.
The few short relationships I tried during that period all had one undercurrent of a problem: the man I was seeing would eventually feel threatened by my friendship with him.
Not because they were insecure men, necessarily. But because of how heavily I lean on my friend and how present he is and was in my day-to-day life.
One of these short relationships was with a man who lived overseas. I would fly to see him regularly. But my friend was the person I would text:
Let me know you've landed.
I've landed safely.
I'm in an Uber now.
I recognise that this is probably backwards.
Anyway, fast forward to the start of this year.
I was finally in a better place. Not fixed or healed, but definitely further forward.
There has always been a level of chemistry and attraction between us, but it had never been acted upon.
Earlier this year, however, he started to drive our relationship in that direction.
I followed.
In trust.
We ended up becoming very sexually intimate remotely, through phone calls, WhatsApp and video calls. Every day. Our level of contact grew even more. I did the maths once. We averaged around 300 messages a day.
Every day.
Plus phone calls.
Plus video calls.
Plus the sexual intimacy.
I had known him for two years by this point. I trusted him more than I trusted almost anyone. I had allowed myself to become emotionally and sexually intimate with the person who had been the safest and most constant person in my life.
And, inevitably, I fell in love with him.
Naturally, I asked him what we now were.
We were both scared of losing the friendship. It was agreed that we weren't friends with benefits. It was agreed that we weren't just friends.
For all intents and purposes, we were in a relationship.
But he struggled immensely with that title.
I was at a work event once and met a man there. We got on very well. He asked for my number and asked whether I was single.
I honestly didn't know what to say.
So I told my friend that night what had happened.
There is something else that is important to understand about this relationship: there is an extraordinary amount of honesty between us. Probably more from me. He is much more guarded, although he has opened up considerably over time.
He has more insight into my day-to-day life than I have into his.
Anyway, I asked him:
Am I single?
Eventually, he said no.
But it was a very begrudging no.
It did not come easily to him.
Seeing each other in person, however, has been a struggle.
I wanted to desperately. But he always had multiple reasons why we couldn't.
To be clear, we live around two hours apart. One motorway separates us. We both drive. He keeps an apartment in London for work purposes. I live in London.
He does have a demanding job. He is a single parent. He has complicated circumstances involving his parents' health and a dog. But he co-parents well with his son's mother and, while his logistics are undoubtedly complicated, I would not say they are more complicated than those of an average 53-year-old man with a demanding life.
For context, he has never had a fling or a one-night stand. He has only ever been with a relatively small number of women, all in serious, long-term relationships.
He struggles deeply with emotional intimacy.
So we coasted along for a while, but inevitably I started asking why he wouldn't see me.
I had been immensely vulnerable with him sexually, digitally, but I was increasingly scared that I was simply a digital plaything.
I had never agreed to that.
I repeatedly told him that I would not have entered into the sexual side of our relationship if I believed it was going to remain purely digital. I was very clear that, for me, it was heading towards a relationship that existed in real life.
He repeatedly reassured me that I wasn't a digital plaything.
He told me that he wanted to translate what we had into real life.
But we have met once.
In all this time, we have met once: one afternoon at his flat in London, where he was still working.
We had lunch.
We did not have sex.
It was incredibly confusing for me.
We made a plan to meet the following week.
He cancelled.
We made another plan for the week after.
He cancelled that too.
I have repeatedly tried to ask him, calmly and directly, what he actually wants.
I have not demanded declarations of undying love or issued ultimatums. I have tried to ask for clarity in what I believe are kind and healthy ways.
But whenever I ask for clarity, he becomes defensive and shuts down. I end up frustrated, and then the conversation becomes about my frustration rather than the question I originally asked.
I have also tried giving him space, hoping that if I stopped asking and allowed him room, he would come towards me himself with some clarity.
That doesn't work either.
I have told him explicitly that I do not do well living in confusion. I have told him that if he is not able to be in a relationship with me, I would rather know.
I have given him repeated opportunities, with dignity and without drama, to walk away.
I have said, in essence: if this is not what you want, you can tell me. I will be hurt, but I would rather have the truth than continue living in ambiguity.
He has always stayed.
He has told me he will never leave me.
But I have also told him that, now that our friendship has crossed into what it is, I will never be able to return to simply being friends.
I love him too deeply.
The contradiction is that he tells me he cannot commit, but also tells me that I am not single and that he will never leave me.
He tells me he wasn't ready for a relationship, but that I came along and changed things for him.
He tells me he cannot give me a relationship, but does not want to lose me.
He wants the emotional and sexual intimacy of what we have, but becomes defensive when I ask what it actually means.
He is, in many ways, a walking contradiction.
And I have reached the point where I don't know whether I am being compassionate towards somebody who is genuinely frightened and emotionally limited, or whether I am allowing somebody to keep me in a situation that is profoundly painful because I love him.
This is not, in my view, a love-language issue.
If he were a man I had met on Bumble and this were the beginning of our relationship, I would be running a mile in the other direction.
I would probably be warning every other woman I knew to stay away.
The difficulty is that he is not a man I met on Bumble.
He is the man who was there when I was at the lowest point in my life.
He is the man who helped me rebuild.
He is the person I have spoken to every day for two years.
He is the person I trusted enough to become vulnerable with.
He is also the person who now seems unable or unwilling to give me clarity about the relationship he helped create.
On his most recent cancellation of our plans, I asked him to propose another day.
He point-blank refused.
I found this incredibly difficult. My position was that, in my experience, when you cancel plans with someone, you apologise and propose an alternative if you actually want to see them.
He did not.
When I explained why I found that hurtful and confusing, he called me controlling.
That was a significant moment for me.
I do not believe that asking somebody who has cancelled plans to suggest another day is controlling.
I believe it is a normal expectation of somebody who wants to maintain a relationship.
I am now in a period of no contact with him because I simply could not tolerate the ambiguity and the repeated disrespect of my time any longer.
I love him deeply. On many levels.
And if I am brutally honest, I wonder whether the intensity of my attachment to him is partly a consequence of the role he played in helping me survive and rebuild.
He was there when I was at my lowest.
He became the person I trusted most.
He became part of my daily life and my emotional world.
That makes walking away extraordinarily difficult.
Leaving him and walking away from everything we have would cause me significant emotional damage.
Given everything I have already been through, that is not a prospect I am taking lightly.
But I also cannot see a way forward.
And I am now beginning to wonder whether he ever actually intended to make this relationship physical.
Perhaps he genuinely meant it whenever he said he wanted to.
Perhaps he believed he would eventually be able to do it.
Perhaps he loves me in whatever way he is capable of loving somebody.
But perhaps, in practical terms, he has created a relationship that gives him almost everything he wants while allowing him to avoid the one thing I need.
A relationship that exists in reality.
So what exactly is happening here?
Am I looking at a man who genuinely loves me but is terrified of real-life intimacy?
Am I looking at a man who has created a relationship that gives him all the emotional and sexual intimacy he wants without requiring him to take the risks of a real relationship?
Am I being manipulated, even if he does not consciously intend to manipulate me?
Or am I somehow both right?
And perhaps the most difficult question is this:
If somebody genuinely loves you, but is unable or unwilling to give you the relationship you need, does the reason ultimately matter?

I am waking up every day now, and my overriding feeling is that I feel used. And defective. I feel like I am not good enough for him to want in real life and I was only ever good enough for some digital fun. But what an elaborate route to get there for him....

OP posts:
Fromage11 · 18/07/2026 08:45

Hi OP - I think my brain works a bit like yours and I don’t think this is AI to reassure you. I often see posts on here and people say ‘oh it’s too long’ which I don’t think is entirely fair, people have poured their heart out, give them some grace.
With regards to your situation. I’ve had a very similar one. I wanted it to work, I gave it more time than I should, I was completely detached from my real world because I was so attached to this remote relationship. I’d say it was the hardest break up, and it was the one i took the longest to get over. But honestly, it’s not ok for him to expect your attention but not your presence. Time to step away. Someone can be there for you in rough times, doesn’t mean you have to sacrifice good times for them too.

Coralsunset · 18/07/2026 08:45

What a load of tedious drama! How on earth have you got so enmeshed with this loser?

Block him and accept it was never real.

WhatNextImScared · 18/07/2026 08:47

Oscillating · 18/07/2026 07:28

Jesus Christ.

Just ditch him. He's probably married anyway and cheating on the mother of his child.

Absolutely this. He is not available to you. He highly likely to have a whole other life he is withholding from you. Move on.

ChocolateCinderToffee · 18/07/2026 08:49

ai;dr

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 08:49

Duckiewasthefirstniceguy · 18/07/2026 08:39

You’re a professional writer? Really? People pay you money?

Really appreciate the replies so far. Not sure what the hatred is about. Appreciate the post is long but not sure it is necessary to personally attack me for it. It takes a lot to write something emotionally vulnerable and I'm really glad for you that you clearly haven't been in a position before whereby you've needed support. I do need some supprt right now and criticising my career isn't overly helpful.
Please do feel free to pass the post by rather than trying to attack a 30 year career.

OP posts:
Duckiewasthefirstniceguy · 18/07/2026 08:54

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 08:49

Really appreciate the replies so far. Not sure what the hatred is about. Appreciate the post is long but not sure it is necessary to personally attack me for it. It takes a lot to write something emotionally vulnerable and I'm really glad for you that you clearly haven't been in a position before whereby you've needed support. I do need some supprt right now and criticising my career isn't overly helpful.
Please do feel free to pass the post by rather than trying to attack a 30 year career.

‘Hatred’. Right.

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 08:54

Fromage11 · 18/07/2026 08:45

Hi OP - I think my brain works a bit like yours and I don’t think this is AI to reassure you. I often see posts on here and people say ‘oh it’s too long’ which I don’t think is entirely fair, people have poured their heart out, give them some grace.
With regards to your situation. I’ve had a very similar one. I wanted it to work, I gave it more time than I should, I was completely detached from my real world because I was so attached to this remote relationship. I’d say it was the hardest break up, and it was the one i took the longest to get over. But honestly, it’s not ok for him to expect your attention but not your presence. Time to step away. Someone can be there for you in rough times, doesn’t mean you have to sacrifice good times for them too.

Thank you. I appreciate this.
I do recognise, that when written down, I come across as nothing other than a sentimental dick.
The situation, as they always are, is nuanced, but everyone's overall opinion seems to be right that, for whatever the reason, this isn't a good situation for me.
Life hasn't stopped for him. I'm still raising 3 children and working full time and running a charity I founded that supports victims of DV (there's an irony here i know), and travelling and writing the book and managing a difficult co parenting relationship with my ex husband and maintaining friendships and somehow having a social life in all of that, but I guess my friend was just someone I grew to count on. It hurts to think all along I didn't matter

OP posts:
NorthSouthEast · 18/07/2026 08:55

300 messages a day??? Plus calls, videos etc. Do you not both have work and real life to get on with?

It sounds like you’ve filled every spare moment in your life with messaging him and if you finish things there will be a massive hole in your time that you don’t know how to fill.

So start thinking now about anything and everything you could do to prioritise yourself, your interests, your wellbeing, your health and start engaging with life outside your phone. A gym class, a walk, an art group, trips to museums etc. you will want to tell him every detail. You mustn’t. You need to get used to doing things for you and not relaying every thought or detail to him. Regulate your sleep, switch your phone off.

Im not surprised other relationships have floundered if you’re so busy on your phone sending live updates to another man. Also, kindly, what person needs to know you’ve landed, you’re in an Uber etc etc when you’re a grown adult on a holiday with another grown adult? It’s like you’ve got stuck in the pattern from earlier where he was helping you on basics such as having a shower.

But you’re stronger now and you don’t need to check in with him or use him as your safety net.

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 08:55

Thank you. I appreciate this.
I do recognise, that when written down, I come across as nothing other than a sentimental dick.
The situation, as they always are, is nuanced, but everyone's overall opinion seems to be right that, for whatever the reason, this isn't a good situation for me.
Life hasn't stopped for him. I'm still raising 3 children and working full time and running a charity I founded that supports victims of DV (there's an irony here i know), and travelling and writing the book and managing a difficult co parenting relationship with my ex husband and maintaining friendships and somehow having a social life in all of that, but I guess my friend was just someone I grew to count on. It hurts to think all along I didn't matter

OP posts:
GentlemanJay · 18/07/2026 08:55

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 18/07/2026 07:34

I am going to be very, very blunt here. You are completely obsessed with someone who doesn't even make the time to see you in real life. There's no 'relationship' and never will be.
You need to dig deep deep deep and end it, or this will be your life until it's too late to let yourself do anything else.
End it as swiftly and totally as you can and then go straight into therapy so you can stay strong and process it.
Just do it. Cut it off, like a piece of cheese with a knife, just cut it. Yes it will hurt. But you must.

This.

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 08:57

Cars4Gov · 18/07/2026 08:10

I am waking up every day now, and my overriding feeling is that I feel used

Trust your instincts. Forget the last 2 years, that could be love bombing/grooming. Are you much younger than him?

Not really. I'm mid 40s. He's 53

OP posts:
TooHotToBoogie · 18/07/2026 08:57

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 08:49

Really appreciate the replies so far. Not sure what the hatred is about. Appreciate the post is long but not sure it is necessary to personally attack me for it. It takes a lot to write something emotionally vulnerable and I'm really glad for you that you clearly haven't been in a position before whereby you've needed support. I do need some supprt right now and criticising my career isn't overly helpful.
Please do feel free to pass the post by rather than trying to attack a 30 year career.

You are too old to let this User Use you for wank phone sex. He's obviously married still, just block him and find a real person to be with

coolcahuna · 18/07/2026 08:58

Have you spent time with him in person? I was trying to work this out from your post.. Honestly just move on , he likes all the conversation and ego stroke, he's probably not single. I've seen this before, thousands of messages etc, concentrate on people who want to actually see you.

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 18/07/2026 08:59

I do recognise, that when written down, I come across as nothing other than a sentimental dick.

@evh1978 it doesn’t come across as sentimental/hopelessly romantic. It comes across as terribly naive, needy and like the behaviour of a teenager who has no idea what a normal relationship is. It’s concerning that this comes from someone with the benefit of age, a career and kids.

For a professional writer - it also is way too long and disregards the forum and the audience.

OtterlyAstounding · 18/07/2026 09:02

As a pp said, a lot of what you've written does sound strikingly like the thinking and behaviour of someone with Borderline Personality Disorder, so whether you have a diagnosis or not, it might be useful to look into resources meant to help with that?

Runningswanker · 18/07/2026 09:04

I'm sorry OP, it sounds like:

He enjoyed feeling important
He has a bit of a 'saviour/rescuer' complex
You fell for him. He didn't reciprocate
He took advantage of your interest with online sexting
He doesn't want to be with you, but he wants to keep you hanging on because he likes the feeling you're relying on him. He doesn't want you to give that attention to anyone else.

He's not prepared to offer any more. Walk away.

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 09:04

OtterlyAstounding · 18/07/2026 09:02

As a pp said, a lot of what you've written does sound strikingly like the thinking and behaviour of someone with Borderline Personality Disorder, so whether you have a diagnosis or not, it might be useful to look into resources meant to help with that?

CPTSD. They present similarly

OP posts:
Runsaway · 18/07/2026 09:08

I honestly thought you must be in your 20s. It’s all very teenage drama.

He just doesn’t want a relationship with you and he doesn’t want to be with you. He’s using you. He’s probably married.

Jellycatspyjamas · 18/07/2026 09:08

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 08:55

Thank you. I appreciate this.
I do recognise, that when written down, I come across as nothing other than a sentimental dick.
The situation, as they always are, is nuanced, but everyone's overall opinion seems to be right that, for whatever the reason, this isn't a good situation for me.
Life hasn't stopped for him. I'm still raising 3 children and working full time and running a charity I founded that supports victims of DV (there's an irony here i know), and travelling and writing the book and managing a difficult co parenting relationship with my ex husband and maintaining friendships and somehow having a social life in all of that, but I guess my friend was just someone I grew to count on. It hurts to think all along I didn't matter

You did matter but not in the way you wanted to matter. I can’t pretend to know what need you meet for him, probably a need to have his ego stroked, and a need to control another person, or a need to feel powerful. None of these are the basis for a good relationship and the worst thing you could do is give him more years of your life hoping it’ll turn into something concrete.

He met you at a time when you were vulnerable, he inserted himself into your life and made you dependent on him in an unhealthy way. That’s abusive behaviour - you’d recognise it in someone else but there’s a huge cognitive dissonance going on for you while you’re in it. It’s both protective and harmful because it stops you seeing what’s really going on.

Really try not to spiral into “why didn’t he love me, why didn’t I matter” because that way madness lies. You can’t ever really understand the mindset of someone like this. Just drop the rope, let him go and move on with your life. Take yourself into therapy, to properly process your trauma. The emotional sensitivity you talk about isn’t a super power, it’s a trauma response that leaves you vulnerable.

OtterlyAstounding · 18/07/2026 09:09

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 09:04

CPTSD. They present similarly

My sympathies, OP. I know what it's like to struggle thanks to complex trauma. I really do think that cutting this man off is what you need to grow and find real, stable happiness. He's keeping you trapped in a holding pattern, and that's not healthy.

You've got to steel yourself and rip off the plaster – you'll miss him initially, but in six weeks or so you'll probably be glad you extricated yourself. He's just not relationship material.

Jellycatspyjamas · 18/07/2026 09:11

evh1978 · 18/07/2026 09:04

CPTSD. They present similarly

They do present similarly, the good news is that you can recover but you need healthy relationships to do that.

Think of this as just another symptom and instead of beating yourself up recognise that you’ve asked about it, had some excellent advice and can move past this. Hard, absolutely, necessary, absolutely, possible, of course it is.

notanotherfootballmatch · 18/07/2026 09:14

He'd definitely just using you at this point.

You don't want to be his remote plaything, but that is all he's offering. He is avoiding meeting you in person.

He'd called you controlling because you wanted to arrange a date to meet up.

It also sounds like he thinks he can treat you as badly as he wants and tells you if that upsets you then you are responsible for your emotions.

He helped you in the past but he is treating you very badly now.

ChaToilLeam · 18/07/2026 09:15

No need for all this overanalysing. You want a full relationship. He doesn't.

Time to move on. The whole situation sounds exhausting and you have enough on your plate already.

rainbowstardrops · 18/07/2026 09:15

That was way too long so I skipped over the second half of your post but it’s blatantly clear that this isn’t a ‘normal’ relationship.
You’ve met once? Is that correct?
Also, 300+ texts daily, together with video calls is obsessive! When do get any work done?!
I agree with some of the other posters that have said he very likely is either still with his wife, or at least has someone else. He’s keeping you separate from his actual life.
I’d suggest you block him and concentrate on real people who are part of your real life.

Justanopinionnothingmore · 18/07/2026 09:18

I'd say after reading that long post, well most of it, if you want a penpal then keep it as it is. Because that's all it is.

If you're as emotionally intelligent as you think you are then understand this. Nothing in this world would stop a man moving for what he wants. You wouldn't even have to ask. You'd just know. If you have to ask then that also gives you the answer.

He is just not that into you.

Right now you're an emotional filler for when he gets a girlfriend.

You are too emotionally enmeshed. I don't think it sounds healthy at all. He rescued you when you were in a bad place and the dynamic has stayed.

If you want to unclip your wings, let the safety net of him go. You need to stand on your own two feet.