Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Preppers

Prepping For A Pandemic ....9

999 replies

ItsNotJustTheFuckingFlu · 01/03/2020 23:57

wheresmojo asked at the end of thread eight if other posters could keep an eye on threads filling up and start new ones if possible as she’s busy this week and may not have the time, saw thread 8 getting full so thought would start number 9 before going to bed. Thank you to ofwarren for the live updates too. I’ve copied and pasted the info that wheresmymojo has included in every thread, hopefully formatting doesn’t mess up.

Anxiety

As Preppers we tend to look at a reasonable worst case scenario to plan for. Everyone is welcome on the thread but if you find it makes you anxious be kind to yourself and think about sticking to once daily updates from the BBC or similar thanks Flowers

General COVID Info

The estimated replication rate is R= 2 to 4 based on latest expert estimates. This means each infected person spreads the virus to between 2 and 4 people. Experts estimate that, unchecked, it could infect 60% of the population.

Around 15-20% of cases are thought to be severe - that is resulting in the need for hospitalisation. Around 3-5% requiring ventilation.

The estimated mortality rate is around 1-2% at the moment (compared to 0.01-0.1% for flu). This may change as it is very difficult to estimate mortality.

Children tend to have milder symptoms. Those over 60 with underlying health issues and a history of smoking are more likely to be severe (although not exclusively this type of person).

Spread of COVID

It is estimated that the average incubation period is 3-5 days but can be as long as 24 days.

It can be spread with no symptoms.

It can be spread via droplet (cough/sneeze), aerosol (breathing same air in very close quarters), bodily fluids, fecal/oral route and formites (via surfaces, up to 28 days in the right circumstances but up to 3-5 days in more typical circumstances).

Updates

As this is a novel virus and knowledge is constantly being updated - I will post updates as they become available with links to source.

I am not a medical expert so any opinions or conjecture of my own should be taken with a pinch of salt!

Prepping Scenarios

Most of us are prepping for the following situations:

  • Wanting to stay indoors for 2-4 weeks + in case of a local outbreak / schools being closed
  • Potentially being ill with a flu type illness lasting 2-3 weeks with one or more of the household having the illness
  • Having to take a family member to hospital for COVID or any other reason during an outbreak

Prepping Items

Threads 1&2 have lists of things to think about to prep for the first scenario as do the Brexit prepping threads.

Main differences/additions to something like the Brexit list are:

  • Face masks if you can get them for any trips you have to make in public during an outbreak. These don't offer full protection and cannot be 100% relied upon but are probably better than nothing if you make sure you wear them correctly and dispose of them correctly. N95 masks are best but expensive and harder to wear, surgical face masks are second best. Dust masks are not going to help.
  • Hand sanitiser needs to be 60% or more alcohol content
  • Dettol / bleach / Miltons to disinfect. Not all disinfectants work but these three do
  • Plenty of at home/over counter treatments for flu type symptoms should you need to treat at home
  • Tissues (lots of) should you catch the virus
  • Think about meals that are easy to cook and eat should you be ill or both parents be ill at the same time (soup for example)
  • For a potential hospital trip you may want to prep a 'go bag' should you need to take someone to hospital with the virus (or anything else) during an outbreak. See Thread 1&2 for examples of what people are packing
  • Frequent and thorough hand washing, not touching your face and social distancing (no handshakes, hugs, etc) are some of the most effective ways to stay virus free

Other Thoughts

India have announced that they are stopping exports of some antibiotics, hormone treatments and vitamin supplements as they rely on China for raw materials.

Many factories that supplied fibre for use in sanitary towels and tampons are being diverted to manufacture face masks. Consider stocking up or changing to sustainable items (cloth STs, mooncup, period pants)

If you bulk buy hand gel with a high alcohol content make sure it is stored somewhere safe other than the one you’re using. It is flammable!

OP posts:
Thread gallery
6
tryingtoprep · 03/03/2020 14:22

@ofwarren been brilliant. She's taking the time to give us information she's found - and she's said she always checks it's verifiable news sources.

@echobench if he is still at school, I hope he's being kept away from the Queen!

Unlike *ofwarren" I'm rubbish at links but the Guardian live update mentions a Labour MP asking for hand soap in House of Commons toilets. They don't all have any!

Thorilicious · 03/03/2020 14:24

For the first time ever, I've gone and bought stuff in preparation. I've never really been a pepper, but with 2 kids under 7, I wanted to make sure I've got stuff that they'll eat if we end up isolating.
I'm sure my husband is going to roll his eyes at me. Do your other halves support your prepping?

TheElementsOfMedical · 03/03/2020 14:24

WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles

GrinGrinGrin

^^

rhij86 · 03/03/2020 14:25

@NatoPMT hope your friend is ok and it turns out to be nothing to worry about! Flowers

Puppycorn · 03/03/2020 14:26

@echobench no ppe suits only large laundry bags with choice of colours to match the shoes .. just tear it, wear it, then catch it, bin it 😅 that’s the strategy

Funny but sad reality 😞

ifonly4 · 03/03/2020 14:26

Are there any products which store well outside in a shed or storage unit, ie can cope with low night time temperatures. DD is coming home from uni and we have guests next week, so I'm having to move some of my stash!

itsnotjustflu · 03/03/2020 14:28

@NatoPMT are they abroad or in the UK? hope they're ok

@Thorilicious we are first timers as well. We've said we are always going to stockpile now. I'm going to keep a list of what needs eating by when so nothing can go out of date without being eaten. DH was supportive and all for prepping but now he doesn't seem as concerned which I find odd. I bet he won't!! Yes I also wanted food I knew my DS would eat

AspergersMum · 03/03/2020 14:29

Costco was veeeery busy this morning. They are out of 5L Carex refill soap and Dettol laundry germ killer stuff where we are. Plenty of people buying water, loo roll, and large amounts of food and this is a Tuesday when usually it is nice and calm for me and my autistic son to visit.

itsnotjustflu · 03/03/2020 14:30

@ifonly4 not really. tinned food doesn't keep well it temperatures go below 0. water would be OK and bottles of drink but not really food. It's not good to keep it in fluctuating temperatures

NatoPMT · 03/03/2020 14:33

He’s UK and not been abroad. He’s in a midlands hotel but is from London

He’s got either actual flu or CV, a cold doesn’t do those symptoms

I’d post the pic he posed but reverse image search might make that unsafe given how watched this thread is

ofwarren · 03/03/2020 14:33

2nd confirmed #coronavirus case hits #NewYork

NatoPMT · 03/03/2020 14:35

I’m feeling really anxious now 😔

ofwarren · 03/03/2020 14:37

#ITALY— Ivo Cilesi, one of the world's leading experts on Alzheimer's disease, has died of #coronavirus in Italy. Among other things, he devised several methods of therapy that helped people suffering from the disease to reduce the symptoms of the disease.

ofwarren · 03/03/2020 14:38

#CZECH REP- Restrictions applied at University of Brno. Lectures, student trips, conferences, library and gym are closed. 15 measures will apply from tomorrow. (With only 4 cases of #Coronavirus in the country, talk about measures)

JustMeAndMyTins · 03/03/2020 14:39

Just reading the Telegraph and struggling to see how people can't see the flaw in the stance below:

Prof Whitty says...the first reason you would close a school is if children were particularly at risk, which does not apply with coronavirus.

However, there is a question to be answered as to whether closing schools could help delay and contain the spread, which Sir Patrick and other scientists are currently modelling.

Sir Patrick also points that unlike Spanish Flu, which is referenced in the document, young people are far less likely to develop severe symptoms from coronavirus.

Who is going to look after said mildly-affected kids if they pass it on to teachers, school staff and parents/grandparents? You know, the demographic that includes the 1% who might die and the other 10% minimum who are hospitalised?

Tinnednut · 03/03/2020 14:40

@echobench I don't know about England but the stock pilling is happening it just isn't happening inside hospitals right now.
It won't be deployed until signal is given.

ifonly4 · 03/03/2020 14:40

itsnotjustflu thanks for your reply. We have suitcases stored inside suitcases, so think I'll put a few things in there.

LightofMine · 03/03/2020 14:41

Another case in Hertfordshire - A letchworth school parent. The child has tested negative and the school is to remain open.

www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/news/hertfordshire-news/hertfordshire-coronavirus-letchworth-school-confirms-3909673

FelicityFebruary · 03/03/2020 14:42

Exactly justmeandmytins!

rhij86 · 03/03/2020 14:43

@NatoPMT it's understandable. I hope doctors can get to your friend soon. Do keep us updated.

VivaLeBeaver · 03/03/2020 14:45

The Letchworth kid might be negative now but will they be down the line....I’m assuming the child has been told to stay off school?

itsnotjustflu · 03/03/2020 14:45

@ifonly4 You are welcome, that sounds like a very good plan. No point risking your stash

NatoPMT · 03/03/2020 14:45

Thank you rhij86 😘

Will let you know what happens when I know

rhij86 · 03/03/2020 14:48

Have I missed where these 12 new UK cases are? Or has that part not been announced?

SuckingDieselFella · 03/03/2020 14:48

@ofwarren If you can't provide the #source of this #information, it looks like scaremongering.

And now we have people on the thread saying they are scared.

Is this your intention? If not, please provide your sources.

Swipe left for the next trending thread