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Dawn Butler racism just fine according to Labour

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Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 08:44

Well, didn’t take long for labour ministers to show their real beliefs did it. According to Dawn Butler, Kemi Badenoch is “a white supremacist in blackface” (with apologies to all for re-typing her massively offensive words). According to the lovely KS this is all just fine, nothing to see here, move along.

One rule for labour, one rule for everybody else. Again. Last time it was failure to declare gifts. This time it is blatant racism. How hideous this government is and what rank hypocrites.

Dawn Butler must have the whip withdrawn otherwise I don’t want to hear one more word from this racist government.

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Nordione1 · 04/11/2024 10:56

username7891 · 04/11/2024 10:51

People are saying that it's a bit rich to complain of racism given Johnson's highly offensive homophobic, misogynist, racist and Islamaphobic remarks.

Which people? Leftists who can't justify Dawn's comments so want to deflect attention on someone who left office years ago?
Or people who agree with Dawn's comments secretly?

KindQuail · 04/11/2024 10:57

username7891 · 04/11/2024 10:51

People are saying that it's a bit rich to complain of racism given Johnson's highly offensive homophobic, misogynist, racist and Islamaphobic remarks.

The bloke who hasn't been PM for 2 years and hasn't even been an MP for a year?

Is racism wrong or not?

Queensguide · 04/11/2024 10:57

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 10:53

But this thread is about Dawn Butler’s horrific, racist, offensive re-tweet @username7891. You could always start another thread if you want to discuss other people’s remarks, let’s not get distracted from Dawn’s public view.

Have you written to your MP or taken any action other than raging on here about the comment? You sound frantic about it and some positive action might be more helpful than repeating yourself on MN.

ruffler45 · 04/11/2024 10:58

She was probabaly trained at the Tony Blair school of politics...

Say it then then tell people that have misunderstood or misinterpreted what she said.

lifeturnsonadime · 04/11/2024 10:58

username7891 · 04/11/2024 10:51

People are saying that it's a bit rich to complain of racism given Johnson's highly offensive homophobic, misogynist, racist and Islamaphobic remarks.

So it's a race to the bottom then?

This is so typical of die hard Labour supporters. Rather than own issues in their own camp they just point fingers.

username7891 · 04/11/2024 10:59

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 10:53

But this thread is about Dawn Butler’s horrific, racist, offensive re-tweet @username7891. You could always start another thread if you want to discuss other people’s remarks, let’s not get distracted from Dawn’s public view.

If this thread is only about Butler, why are you talking about the Labour party being racist? Why are you talking about Labour leaders?

If you're going to talk about racism in political parties, expect to be challenged if you're a Tory. Am still waiting for your list of progressive Tory policies btw.

EasternStandard · 04/11/2024 11:00

Queensguide · 04/11/2024 10:57

Have you written to your MP or taken any action other than raging on here about the comment? You sound frantic about it and some positive action might be more helpful than repeating yourself on MN.

The op doesn't sound 'frantic'. It's a pretty bad tweet, not sure if you felt it was ok

username7891 · 04/11/2024 11:01

lifeturnsonadime · 04/11/2024 10:58

So it's a race to the bottom then?

This is so typical of die hard Labour supporters. Rather than own issues in their own camp they just point fingers.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 11:01

I’m happy to bring the debate to MN for now thanks @Queensguide - I’m still waiting to see if KS will show any leadership on the matter or whether he will continue to condone her remarks by his silence. If he continues to turn a blind eye to the bigotry of his own MP then I might raise it with my MP, we’ll see.

Why you seem to have a problem with me bringing the matter up on MN is a more interesting question…

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Queensguide · 04/11/2024 11:01

EasternStandard · 04/11/2024 11:00

The op doesn't sound 'frantic'. It's a pretty bad tweet, not sure if you felt it was ok

I have already engaged in reasonable debate on this thread and absolutely do not condone Butler's comment. "horrific, racist, offensive" sounds frantic.

Dreamingofgoldfinchlane · 04/11/2024 11:01

Queensguide · 04/11/2024 10:57

Have you written to your MP or taken any action other than raging on here about the comment? You sound frantic about it and some positive action might be more helpful than repeating yourself on MN.

Of course we've written to our MP.

Queensguide · 04/11/2024 11:03

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 11:01

I’m happy to bring the debate to MN for now thanks @Queensguide - I’m still waiting to see if KS will show any leadership on the matter or whether he will continue to condone her remarks by his silence. If he continues to turn a blind eye to the bigotry of his own MP then I might raise it with my MP, we’ll see.

Why you seem to have a problem with me bringing the matter up on MN is a more interesting question…

No problem at all with you bringing it up on MN....but it will have no impact.
If you take it to your MP you might be part of the solution.

Nordione1 · 04/11/2024 11:03

username7891 · 04/11/2024 10:59

If this thread is only about Butler, why are you talking about the Labour party being racist? Why are you talking about Labour leaders?

If you're going to talk about racism in political parties, expect to be challenged if you're a Tory. Am still waiting for your list of progressive Tory policies btw.

Why do you need the list of Tory progressive policies? Labour are in power now. It's clearly harder than they thought, as they are being held to account for some very questionable activities now. And their words matter more. Every day there's a new disaster!

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Queensguide · 04/11/2024 11:03

Dreamingofgoldfinchlane · 04/11/2024 11:01

Of course we've written to our MP.

That's good then.

Dollybantree · 04/11/2024 11:03

Queensguide · 04/11/2024 10:57

Have you written to your MP or taken any action other than raging on here about the comment? You sound frantic about it and some positive action might be more helpful than repeating yourself on MN.

Deflection and gaslighting. The op doesn’t sound “frantic” at all - just opening a discussion into whether this comment is a sackable offence or not.

Id think most people would agree it is and she should be sacked. Rightly people expect our PM to deal with the matter accordingly.

I won’t hold my breath though.

porridgecake · 04/11/2024 11:05

Dawn Butler really isn't the sharpest tool in the box. She went on live TV and said babies are born without a sex. I have no idea if she is a good MP or not, to be fair.

Nordione1 · 04/11/2024 11:05

Queensguide · 04/11/2024 11:03

No problem at all with you bringing it up on MN....but it will have no impact.
If you take it to your MP you might be part of the solution.

Doubt it if your MP happens to be a Labour one. Keir's in charge of them and he hasn't sacked Dawn yet.

EasternStandard · 04/11/2024 11:05

Dollybantree · 04/11/2024 11:03

Deflection and gaslighting. The op doesn’t sound “frantic” at all - just opening a discussion into whether this comment is a sackable offence or not.

Id think most people would agree it is and she should be sacked. Rightly people expect our PM to deal with the matter accordingly.

I won’t hold my breath though.

Seconded

username7891 · 04/11/2024 11:05

Nordione1 · 04/11/2024 11:03

Why do you need the list of Tory progressive policies? Labour are in power now. It's clearly harder than they thought, as they are being held to account for some very questionable activities now. And their words matter more. Every day there's a new disaster!

Because according to some, the Tories are the most progressive party because of their leadership. The Tories therefore will have had progressive policies. They were in power for 14 years, and I didn't see any evidence them. However,I'm sure you have a list, given their progressive credentials.

Queensguide · 04/11/2024 11:06

Dollybantree · 04/11/2024 11:03

Deflection and gaslighting. The op doesn’t sound “frantic” at all - just opening a discussion into whether this comment is a sackable offence or not.

Id think most people would agree it is and she should be sacked. Rightly people expect our PM to deal with the matter accordingly.

I won’t hold my breath though.

Read my previous posts. I'm not deflecting or gaslighting, I've engaged postively, openly and constructively in debate here. Suggesting someone takes positive, constructive action isn't deflecting - it's enabling.

Again - "horrific, racist, offensive" sounds frantic.

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 11:08

I’m not quite sure why posters need to provide a list of all progressive conservative policies over the pat 14 years in order to be able to call out Dawn’s awful bigoted tweet?

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Queensguide · 04/11/2024 11:08

Nordione1 · 04/11/2024 11:05

Doubt it if your MP happens to be a Labour one. Keir's in charge of them and he hasn't sacked Dawn yet.

Defeatist attitude. All constructive action contributes.

Many Labour MPs have condemned Dawn's tweet....so you might get a better response than you hope.

KindQuail · 04/11/2024 11:08

username7891 · 04/11/2024 11:01

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Oh, so we should we be saying the Labour party are racist against Hindus and are anti-semites because of Jeremy Corbyns past comments?

Queensguide · 04/11/2024 11:09

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 11:08

I’m not quite sure why posters need to provide a list of all progressive conservative policies over the pat 14 years in order to be able to call out Dawn’s awful bigoted tweet?

Has anyone on here condoned her tweet?