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Dawn Butler racism just fine according to Labour

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Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 08:44

Well, didn’t take long for labour ministers to show their real beliefs did it. According to Dawn Butler, Kemi Badenoch is “a white supremacist in blackface” (with apologies to all for re-typing her massively offensive words). According to the lovely KS this is all just fine, nothing to see here, move along.

One rule for labour, one rule for everybody else. Again. Last time it was failure to declare gifts. This time it is blatant racism. How hideous this government is and what rank hypocrites.

Dawn Butler must have the whip withdrawn otherwise I don’t want to hear one more word from this racist government.

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Nordione1 · 06/11/2024 10:12

Noisylass · 06/11/2024 09:47

Because she's a black woman saying that to another black woman that's OK. That's the difference here that deliberately is being ignored

Have you really given up on MLK and the content of your character being the most important thing?

Noisylass · 06/11/2024 10:17

Nordione1 · 06/11/2024 10:12

Have you really given up on MLK and the content of your character being the most important thing?

Nope he’s right so on that basis dawn is right against kemi who would have told him don’t worry lad there is no racism

Nordione1 · 06/11/2024 10:22

Noisylass · 06/11/2024 10:17

Nope he’s right so on that basis dawn is right against kemi who would have told him don’t worry lad there is no racism

The problem being that Dawn still can't see past the fact that Kemi is black then. So completely against what MLK thought.

Nordione1 · 06/11/2024 10:31

I mean, it's not rocket science.

Dawn has decided what people of a particular skin colour should think.

Dawn thinks all people with that particular skin colour should think that way.

Kemi has that particular skin colour. Kemi does not think the way Dawn has decided people of her colour should think.

Dawn is angry. Dawn makes an idiot of herself on Twitter.

Nordione1 · 06/11/2024 10:36

Definition of racism.

"characterized by or showing prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group"

I think Dawn has easily ticked all those boxes.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 07/11/2024 18:25

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-problem-with-dawn-butler/

Hopefully you can read that and it's not behind a paywall?

Babadookinthewardrobe · 08/11/2024 20:59

Thanks for the link @TwigletsAndRadishes - it is behind a paywall I’m afraid, but I am pleased to see the Spectator isn’t letting it drop even if KS is. I can see the first couple of paragraphs though… “As exhibit A I would present the Labour MP Dawn Butler…” - she’s chock full of prejudice.

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TwigletsAndRadishes · 13/11/2024 09:47

Babadookinthewardrobe · 08/11/2024 20:59

Thanks for the link @TwigletsAndRadishes - it is behind a paywall I’m afraid, but I am pleased to see the Spectator isn’t letting it drop even if KS is. I can see the first couple of paragraphs though… “As exhibit A I would present the Labour MP Dawn Butler…” - she’s chock full of prejudice.

I'll see if I can take some quotes from it later when i get a chance.

friendshipover24 · 13/11/2024 17:44

Just because skin colour was mentioned doesn’t make the statement racist. Do people on this thread know the meaning of the word? Just because someone says “black” or “white” with regards to a person’s skin colour doesn’t make something racist. 🙄

Babadookinthewardrobe · 14/11/2024 08:36

No, perhaps you didn’t follow the story properly @friendshipover24 .

Butler didn’t call Badenoch black or white, Butler called her a “white supremacist in blackface”.

Please stop defending her rank racism.

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TwigletsAndRadishes · 14/11/2024 20:14

Some passages taken from the Spectator article on Dawn Butler. I've paraphrased a bit for brevity:

First is the apparent view that a surprising number of people on the ‘progressive’ side of politics hold, which is that a person’s politics should not be decided by their intellect but by characteristics over which they have no say. These ‘progressives’ take it as axiomatic that anyone who is not white must always vote for the political left, as should anyone from a sexual minority.

This is an unfortunate misunderstanding of the left, but it is not evidence of malice per se. Butler on the other hand now exhibits something different. Because for her, describing someone as white or as trying to be white is clearly a great insult. Butler does not seem to believe that skin colour should not matter. She apparently believes it should matter a great deal – and that her skin colour makes her superior. We have her own words to go on.

Last month Butler posted a video online that was a sort of vainglorious rap. If you too don’t believe what I am about to relate, you will just have to go online and watch it for yourself.

At the beginning of the number, Butler chants: ‘You wanted to see me broken?/ Head bowed and tears in my eyes?/ More fool you, you didn’t realise/ That my strength is powered by your lies.’ Quite who the ‘You’ is in this is not made clear but you can make the reasonable assumption that they are white. She goes on: ‘You are the wrong one./ The violent one./ The weird one./ Whereas I, I am the chosen one./ Because I am of the first ones.’
‘You see this skin I’m in?/ This beautiful mahogany brown?/ The skin you don’t like, I believe./ So why you try so hard to achieve/ By burning yourself in the sun? /For me there’s no need / Because I am the chosen one./ For I am of the first ones.’
To conclude Butler says: ‘You, my friend, don’t matter.’ Then there’s yet more stuff about being the chosen one and the first one, before she reaches the searing insight: ‘You created a structure/ That made you seem great./ When the simple reality is/ It is all fake.’
‘Weird.’

Enough. It is time to come to some conclusions about Butler’s work. If a white MP made a video describing themselves as the chosen one because they have ‘white skin’ then I think it would be fair to say that their career would be over pretty sharpish. The grandiosity would be laughed at, but the white supremacy would be the death knell.

Yet what Butler has been displaying for some time, like a number of others on the Labour left, is the exact black counterpart to that. Butler does not appear to think she is the equal to her fellow countrymen. She seemingly believes she is superior to them if they are not of her skin colour.
There is a term for that.

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