Dawn Butler racism just fine according to Labour

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Well, didn’t take long for labour ministers to show their real beliefs did it. According to Dawn Butler, Kemi Badenoch is “a white supremacist in blackface” (with apologies to all for re-typing her massively offensive words). According to the lovely KS this is all just fine, nothing to see here, move along.

One rule for labour, one rule for everybody else. Again. Last time it was failure to declare gifts. This time it is blatant racism. How hideous this government is and what rank hypocrites.

Dawn Butler must have the whip withdrawn otherwise I don’t want to hear one more word from this racist government.

Do you not think her retweet was horrific, racist and offensive then @Queensguide? Fair enough, you do you.

This little fact about Boris is quite interesting...

https://www.mylondon.news/news/nostalgia/boris-johnsons-turkish-great-grandfather-22935500?origin=serp_auto

It's just another example of the blindspot of many on the left. It's more than just rejecting others' beliefs - They simply can't comprehend how certain people have the beliefs they do.

Some have sought to deflect, in a vain attempt to avoid open criticism of the tweet.

You can evidently say whatever you like. But with a blatantly racist, very popular leader like Boris Johnson at your helm, don't pretend the Tories don't have a problem with race.

Wasn't Jenrick saying that colonised countries should be grateful to the UK in a discussion about the slave trade?

And that is totally the point. Racism isn’t just for people we agree with. I certainly don’t like Diane Abbots politics for example but respect she has the right like anyone else to have them (not anything racist or anti on her part though!) and will defend her no matter how much I dislike her from racism comments.

Oh dear oh dear. If you've read my comments you know I do not condone her comments. I have been only constructive in my posts here.

Your passion is making you argue with someone who agrees with you.

Food security is a massive issue that we ignore at our peril. Have a look at how few big players control our farming and food resources.

I have openly criticised the tweet. RTFT.

Again - "horrific, racist, offensive" sounds frantic.

You are using the word “frantic” to diminish and reduce the OP’s comment that what Dawn Butler tweeted was horrific, racist and offensive.

Id agree that saying KM is “a white supremacist in blackface” is all of those things. You obviously disagree!

She's an absolutely appalling woman. But Labour have a problem. Since KS has been in charge he's already had to remove the whip from/suspend Diane Abbott, Apsana Begum, Rupa Huq and Zarah Sultana. Can anyone see an awkward pattern there?

I mean it's bad enough for Labour that the Tories, this allegedly increasingly 'far right' and 'racist' party according to many, have already had an Indian heritage Prime Minister and former Chancellor, 2 female Indian heritage Home Secretaries, 3 female prime ministers, a female of Nigerian heritage now leading the party and likely to be the next PM, plus a Chancellor of Pakistani heritage and one of Ghanaian heritage, plus James Cleverly and Nadim Zahawi.

Dawn Butler absolutely should be on that list of suspended MPs. It's not her first offence yet she's been let off the hook. Plenty of black and ethnic minority people in Labour (as well as several Guardian journalists and left wing bloggers) have used unforgiveable language about Kemi, as they previously did for Suella and Priti in particular, Kwasi K and others, in relation to their ethnicity apparently being out of line with their politics.

But frankly if KS suspended every ethnic minority MP who indulged in 'black and brown intra-communal language or forms of critique, satire or compliment (e.g. coconut, Uncle Tom, Aunt Kemi, house negro, choc ice etc.)' or said something anti-semitic, he'd risk having no ethnic minority MPs left.

I think people are just holding Labour up to Labour's own self-professed standards of being non-racsist and hugely progressive, and pointing out they talk the talk (a lot) but don't walk the walk. The leadership is an easy example

A list of policies won't help you assess things as it will be far too long. Also my view of a progressive policy will be different from yours. For example RR has put employers NI up. This will penalise workers that might work part time for childcare reasons and who might be the ones more easily let go or their hours reduced. I wonder who that will affect more...

It was probably your insistence the op was 'frantic' due to the words chosen

The op was fine to describe the tweet as she did

Please can posters stop denigrating my language. I do indeed find DB’s retweet horrific, racist and offensive and I am angry that no action has been taken. This is not hyperbole. This is not frantic - I am quite calm and able to express my justifiable view. I’m not at home to gaslighters.

And while yes he’s not been Lilly white, let’s not compare a completely recent and just happened racist issues with someone who isn’t in power, no longer in government and has no real political sway.

Sorry but I get annoyed at the past comparisons to someone to negate the current situation by a comparison of ‘while they did it too’ thinking.

Did I mention you?

No, I did not.

I read an interesting statement. Most adults on the right can understand the left because they started out there. Most adults on the left can't understand the right because they've never progressed past the politics of their youth.
I'm not being partisan here, just chimed with me.

I agree. It's the difference between adult pragmatism and realism, versus youthful idealism and naivety.

Except she didn’t like it she RETWEETED it. You could maybe argue however abhorrent that she lazily like something, but she knowingly and willingly as a Labour MP retweeted this abhorrent tweet.

This isn’t a sound bite and frankly we should always be appalled at any racism and not try to accept varying degrees because it suits a narrative.

The fact of the matter is, that there aren't any progressive policies because the Tories aren't a progressive party. Haven't all Tory MPs had a go at the leadership? There seems to be a new one every five minutes.

Walking the walk is having policies that benefit marginalised groups. Strangely enough under the progressive Tories, poor people got a lot poorer. Anyone would think you were trying to gaslight people.

Panic buttons exist in the homes of a lot of MPs not just Labour ones so your point doesn’t quite work here. And a bit of irony for you? Nigel Farage has them and strong security due to serious threats etc and his wife is black (and that ain’t the reason he has them!).

I don't know why you are fixated on the previous government that has been voted out. Try and focus on the party that are actually in power.

I know why you are trying to deflect away from Labour by the way. Everyone does if they have been reading the news since July.

Terrific response.

Farage doesn't have a black wife. This is the thread that keeps on giving.

Brilliant post. Nailed it.