Harvey Weinstein, continued (thread #2)

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Continuation of the Harvey Weinstein discussion.

Link to first thread here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3052708-Harvey-Weinstein?pg=1

Thanks to GorgeousLadyOfWrangling here is the current list of allegations:

Updated allegations (as of 17-10-17) Alleged harassment/assault often took place in hotel suites or offices or private residences/rooms. Some at Cannes, Sundance, Venice, Toronto film festivals. Complainants included actresses, assistants, interns, models, presenters, a producer.

'Bargaining' was a ploy in many cases as was presenting himself in a bathrobe or naked or in the bath and often took place in hotel suite meetings where women were sent up to the room from the original venue or accompanied by assistants who were then told to leave.

1. Amber Anderson - was offered opportunities in return for sex - 20
2. Lysette Anthony - rape - London her home
3. Asia Argento - demanded massage, forced cunnilingus - 21
4. Rosanna Arquette - attempted forced masturbation

5.Jessica Barth - propositioned naked massage in return for opportunities

1. Kate Beckinsale -interviewed her in his bathrobe - 17
2. Zoe Brock - exposed himself/demanded massage/chased -23
3. Liza Campbell - naked in bath during meeting
4. Emma de Caunes - exposed himself/told her to lie on bed

10. Cara Delevingne - asked her to kiss another girl, kissed her 11.Florence Darel - propositioned her, roles for sex - 26 12. Sophie Dix - demanded massage, exposed himself, tried to pin her down, masturbated in front of her - 22 13. Dawn Dunning - offered jobs in return for threesome - 24 14. Alice Evans - told her now husband's career would stall/HW wanted to touch her breasts (Evans and Ioan Gruffud were never offered another picture with Weinstein studio) 15. Lucia Evans - forced fellatio 16. Angie Everhart - awoke to find him masturbating - yacht 17. Claire Forlani - massage suggested, she rebuffed him 25 18. Romola Garai - interviewed her in his bathrobe - 18 19. Louisette Geiss - appeared in bathrobe, asked her to watch him masturbate - 20. Louise Godbold - demanded massage 21. Judith Godreche - demanded massage, pulled at her - 24 22. Trish Goff - groped - private dining room 25 23. Heather Graham - he inferred sex for roles 24. Eva Green - groped, had to push him off, threatened her career 25. Ambra Guttierez - groped breasts 26: Lauren Holly - exposed himself, demanded massage 27. Angelina Jolie - unwanted advances 28. Ashley Judd - demanded massage, asked her to watch him masturbate 29. Katherine Kendall - demanded massage, exposed himself, chased - 23 30. Minka Kelly - offered her a $ lifestyle if she would be his girlfriend 31. Mia Kirshner - unwanted advances/inducements 32. Mylene Klass - offered a sex contract 33. Laura Madden - demanded massages 34. Sarah Ann Masse - interviewed her for nanny job in his underwear - 35. Rose McGowan - (NDA) rape - 23 36. Emily Nestor - offered her mentorship in return for sex 37. Lauren O'Connor - harrassment (NDA) 38. Gwyneth Paltrow - demanded massage - 22 39. Zelda Perkins - potential harassment but settlement 25 40. Sarah Polley - insinuated to her contracts for relationship 41. Tomi-Ann Roberts - naked in bath - 20 42. Erika Rosenbaum - he masturbated stood behind her 43. Melissa Sagemiller - demanded massage, blacklisted her - 24 44. Lea Seydoux - lunged at her 45. Lauren Sivan - masturbated in front of her in restaurant 46. 'Sarah Smith' (pseudonym) - sexual assault 47. Mira Sorvino - unwanted massage/chased 48. Tara Subkoff - pulled her onto his lap/blacklisted 49. Paula Wachowiak - exposed himself, demanded massage - 25

Plus five more anonymous = 54 women
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That list doesn't include:
Jessica Hynes (didn't get a role when refused to do a screen test in a bikini)
Courtney Love (potentially blacklisted)
Felicity Huffman (forced to wear his wife's gowns or no promotion)
Or women he has slandered by namedropping them (Charlize Theron, Nicole Kidman) Or ''Harvey's Girls'' blinds.

Yes of course! I mean if it was in the divorce petition what did she do at the time I wonder?

I bought a PP implied she had been gagged under the terms of the divorce?

www.theguardian.com/film/2017/nov/18/harvey-weinstein-secret-hitlist-sex-scandal

Not really a surprose, but Morrisey is a tosspot of the highest order. I mean, defending Spacey and Weinstein?!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42050512

Arsehole.

OTOH, Colbert nails it. With a song.

Love that!

Another one, US TV host Charlie Rose has been sacked after allegations were made against him: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42073417

I did read the other lyrics under the comments though and it seems his heart was in the right place? I learned the French for mansplaining this week....mexpliquer! (mec is slang for a guy)
Aled Jones has allegations from 10 years ago and is stepping down from Songs of Praise. Wanking in the air indeed.
Jeffrey Tambor has just stepped down from TransParent after harassment allegations from two transwomen (one an assistant,one a gueststar).
I am surprised that the music industry has not come under scrutiny yet.

it seems his heart was in the right place

Yes, probably. Just weird random words, IMO. Colbert's target wasn't so much Keith, as many other men, I think.

The chorus is random yes, but the verses are slightly better...I'm not remotely a Keith Urban fan or a fan of country music but hotch potch chorus aside, it makes a change from Stand by your man

When you hear somebody say somebody hits like a girl
How does that hit you?
Is that such a bad thing?
When you hear a song that they play saying you run the world
Do you believe it?
Will you live to see it?

and

When somebody laughs and implies that she asked for it
Just 'cause she was wearin' a skirt
Oh, is that how that works?
When somebody talks about how it was Adam first
Does that make Eve second best
Or did He save the best for last?

www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/harvey-weinsteins-secret-settlements?mbid=nl_Daily%20112117&CNDID=37613390&spMailingID=12409977&spUserID=MjMwODkwNzgwNjc3S0&spJobID=1281985508&spReportId=MTI4MTk4NTUwOAS2

Third report from Ronan Farrow about the NDAs. Excellent journalism.

Christ, that video of Ronan Farrow talking.
Watch when he turns his head sideways. He is the spit of Frank Sinatra

Completely off topic

I agree Melty but Nancy Sinatra claims Mia was joking and Ronan also made a joke of about we could all possibly be Frank Sinatra's children.
I think it would be nicer if he was Frank's to be honest rather than, in his own words, having his 'father as his brother-in-law' (I am aware that Woody and Soon-yi have stayed together all this time but I still see it as a transgression).
Irrespective, Ronan Farrow is a son you'd be proud to call your own.

Nick Carter has been accused of rape: www.scarymommy.com/nick-carter-rape-accusation-melissa-schuman/?utm_source=FB

Woody has been accused of far worse Hangry - sexually abusing his daughter Dylan. Ronan wrote a piece on what happened when his sister made the allegations: www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/my-father-woody-allen-danger-892572

Uma Thurmans' thanksgiving message sounds like she has had an extreme experience with Weinstein.

I saw that, yes, but have no idea why she would use 'stay tuned' and drip feed info: to want to be exact is one thing but I am not sure what she means regarding fairness unless she simply means trial by social media.

Adding John Lasseter to the list - a six month sabbatical whilst waiting for the it all to blow over?

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2017/nov/23/hugs-life-pixar-john-lasseter-hollywood-golden-age-of-euphemism

Interesting article about how, in particular the Weinstein scandals, have been changing some minds of Internet posters.

www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2017/11/_metoo_is_changing_the_minds_of_internet_trolls.html

That's an encouraging article - that some might be changing how they respond to such reports. It is saddening to see how the word feminism has been used as an excuse to be dismissive of the high prevalence of sexual assault.

check out Blind gossip - looks like two new men are due to be outed. One for preying on boys, one for assaulting women.

Definitely something dodgy is going on behind the scenes about Bryan Singer being sacked from the film he was directing about Freddie Mercury.

A song for sex offenders.

Salma Hayek's account in the New Yorker, details another horrendous experience at the hands of HW.

Just seen that one too