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April Flylady. In which you’ll find Cake for the Fledglings and Compassion for the Frazzled. All welcome as we sort our houses out!

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Cagliostro · 31/03/2018 10:53

Hello everyone,
Welcome to the Flylady thread for April, where we follow (sort of) the Flylady system with baby steps, missions, daily focuses (foci?!) and decluttering. But more than that, we are a supportive bunch where we share the trials and tribulations of everyday life. We post our to do and ta da lists and chat a whole lot.
Newbies, lurkers and returners always welcome!
Back tonight with links for tomorrow!

OP posts:
Stilllivinginazoo · 20/04/2018 20:11

Annoyed isn't even close to how I am feeling with myself
My phone has taken total control and is "talking" even more crap than i doGrin

Ivegotfamilyandidrinkcupsoftea · 20/04/2018 20:13

I am fine

Have been doing stuff although house is a tip!

Wondering if its safe on here

Ivegotfamilyandidrinkcupsoftea · 20/04/2018 20:13

Oh and i still drink tea in the sun!

HillsBesideTheSea · 20/04/2018 20:22

I think the answer to that is: how much have you been getting involved in the debate that has caused the issues? Is there anything in RL that would make it dangerous for people to be able to work out who you are (eg DV type situations) I think those are the 2 main concerns. I think if you have any doubts that getting erased and starting again might be an idea. If the DV hiding thing is a serious concern then the question should be is the benefit of being on mn worth the risk? Personally atm I am going to stay. They have until GDPR to sort the mess out and convince me. After that I will review.

HillsBesideTheSea · 20/04/2018 20:23

Correction
If you have any doubts , then getting erased and starting agin

Ivegotfamilyandidrinkcupsoftea · 20/04/2018 20:32

I havent been involved in the debate at all

It gives me a headache just thinking about it Blush

Stilllivinginazoo · 20/04/2018 21:35
Bowerbird5 · 20/04/2018 21:39

I 'm like zoo it is over my head.
Is it because you have been involved a debate or just being on Mumsnet in general that is the problem?
It would be a shame to lose anyone but I need to be careful too due to career. Can you explain a bit more. I haven't seen or actually heard about the debate until it was mentioned here?

Hasn't been as hot here 17c and unfortunately I worked through all day without a break. I've been teaching most of the day as I got pinched to cover and normally teach in the afternoon anyway. The little ones are getting easier to manage and we had a lovely afternoon. Came home and sat in the garden for a while with tea first cup since 7.45am and magazine. I came in to have another and fell asleep for 30mins!
Salmon from Lidl, new potatoes, carrots and broccoli. Salmon was lovely.

Ta Das
Two loads of washing, hung out😃
Dishwasher on.
Veggie box into basket. Fruit into bowl.
Need to vacuum. Too tired, so tomorrow.
Henny has been comical scratting about today while I was out in the garden.

HillsBesideTheSea · 20/04/2018 22:38

tomo, i promise i will summarise. but for now i sleep or try to.

Cagliostro · 20/04/2018 22:58

ta da
✅phoned doc and had appt (all fine)
✅went to baby rhyme... she slept through it
✅made an omelette for the baby
✅lots of laundry
✅ballet including talking to principal about various things
✅BLAH

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Longtime · 21/04/2018 00:37

Hello ladies. I’m just crawling out of the naughty corner to say hello. I was doing quite well with decluttering but events have rather taken over. One of my two remaining uncles passed away unexpectedly followed by his great grandson (aged 16 months) only five days later. My cousin is devastated to have lost her dad and grandson, and her daughter is to have lost her son and granddad. There have been too many deaths in our family over the past couple of years including my own lovely dad. I’m just so sad for everyone and can’t lift myself out of this melancholy. Picked ds1 up from a friend this evening. Friend’s granddad is dying and it brought it all back for ds1. He got really upset in the car (not helped by the copious amounts of beer I think they consumed between them) and how he said he felt is just how I feel.

I’ll crawl back for a while and maybe see you all in May.

Saltcrust · 21/04/2018 06:30

Longtime I am so sorry for your recent losses. Will pm you. FlowersFlowersFlowers

Stilllivinginazoo · 21/04/2018 06:31

longtime hugs.be kind to yourself my love.Flowers

Ivegotfamilyandidrinkcupsoftea · 21/04/2018 07:08

longtime Flowers

Up just after 5 with ds3. Tired. Back ache. Period pains. Urgh

Stilllivinginazoo · 21/04/2018 07:49

I swear we are one person I've.....

Tada
Fed cat/kits
Bins
Littertray
Bleach lav
Wash on
Swept floors in living room and kitchen
Wash up last night's dinner stuff
Clear n clean dining table
Fed zoolets
Wash on airer
More in

We have no bread,about a tbsp milk left....a trip to the shops up next trailing zoolets.how lovely for meHmm

Stilllivinginazoo · 21/04/2018 07:50

Forgot to add fool sending positive vibes to help you thru today whilst you are feeling rough.hapoy birthday to your little one!!

Ivegotfamilyandidrinkcupsoftea · 21/04/2018 07:53

Ta da

Poonami dealt with and ds3 dressed
3 of 4 dc up and fed
Washer on
Dry pots away

I have to go out later for a few bits shopping hopefully without trailing full set of dc!

Weather cooler here today. 11 now expecting highs of 19

I left my washing out and it got darked on
Im trying to ignore this...

Cagliostro · 21/04/2018 08:42

Oh longtime that’s horrific I’m sorry 💐😰

Just popping on with links
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Saturday 21st April
Babystep MEH
No missions because weekend. It is the last day in the bathroom zone.
Daily focus is family fun so try and do something nice.
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Ok so that was link, not links 🧐😳

OP posts:
Saltcrust · 21/04/2018 08:45

Yes Fool sorry, spead-reading and missed your post - sorry you are feelng so rotten. Wishing you a speedy recovery! Happy birthday to your ds.

And to anyone else feeling under par (I'vegotafamily, Zoo)

Flowers
Saltcrust · 21/04/2018 09:18

Speed not spread!

Ta for links CAG!

Saltcrust · 21/04/2018 09:18

Oh not spread either, ruddy autocorrect, I give up!

HillsBesideTheSea · 21/04/2018 12:20

Right the summary:

The other week a former member of HQ posted some images in twitter to out what they felt was transphobic views on mn (ironically picking on one of the strongest supporters for trans) These images were from the mod view and contain IP addresses.
The person had been an intern for the media side of coordination and needed some access to some details of their work. Since the time of the person being at HQ the general access of details has limited so those who do not need all the details have less access to all the details.
The person was a trans activist who had a long publicised background of views. But also had a good work/experience background.
Since leaving they have been disrespectful and derogatory about MN on twitter as well as posting the images with IPs. It was clear the images had been not only taken whilst at mn but over an extended period of time. Questioned whether this was the sole purpose of joining HQ to destroy it.
Understandable people were upset as it was unclear at the time the position the person had held, what additional information they had taken and the fact that they were concern about similar effects to the Jeffery incident (especially as TRAs are know to actually attack people)
A she was targeting people who were debating the issue of Trans if you were not involved in this debate you are unlikely to be caught in this cross fire

The HQ side of things is affecting more people. At the beginning HQ were wishy washy with their acknowledgement of the situation and were not going to report to the ICO. Posters were pissed off and reported it themselves.
They did assert that the person was in breach of their contract
It was clear that HQ have no idea the sort of information they are handling (big picture data protection) and had had some very bad advice on what they needed to do wrt data protection.
This concerned a lot of people, lots of words were exchanged in the normal MN strong debate manner.
Eventually HQ reported to ICO and took the advice to report to Police. BUT they also accepted a wishy washy opps I got caught please don't take my pocket money type apology from the person and their word that they would delete anything else they had.
Which pissed people off again. Rightly because 1. evidence disposal and 2. how the hell do you accept the word of a person on this who has a proven track record.
Still clear HQ were not taking proper advice on big picture Data protection.

Some of the people trying to help HQ over the data protection situation. Got pissed off with MN and have left. Some have just got pissed off.

I have not followed discussions from today or yesterday. So the situation may have changed again. But it is very clear targeted MN to shut down conversation and predominantly woman safe space particularly with the timing being just after HQ stood up for the right for woman to discuss trans issues. This was done to shut down mn. but has damaged a person's carer, got people pissed off with HQ and more determined than ever not to be controlled by those who don't like that woman could have the right to discuss or a safe place to discuss.

IF you are in a situation where you could die or be hurt if someone found you, then this is who may seriously be concerned about still being on mn. But this is a personal decision. At this point there is no leaking of Identities. Hopefully HQ is getting better advice.

Personally I am giving them until after GDPR and if then they are proven to still being uneducated on the matter of data protection then I will reconsider. But right now I am personally sticking about because damn it I will not be shut up by people with an agenda.

If I have left anything out or you need more info, ask and I will try to answer tonight. I have to go to another city and long drive away so it could be rather late. But should be about for the morning for you. I will also try to catch up todate with what is going on.

HillsBesideTheSea · 21/04/2018 12:20

Opps sorry not much of a summary that Blush

Stilllivinginazoo · 21/04/2018 12:44

Thanks hills it was in plain enough English for oiks like me to follow.i see no need jump ship at this timeSmile

Tadas
Went out for supplies,meandered thru local nature area in 18oc temps with light wind.beautiful.we spot a small pond that's often little more than swampy but thanks to recent rains has a bit depth.its swarming with tadpoles!!!zoolets squatted fascinated for ages whilst I stand try not to look to much like I was alert for signs of parents.tadpoles are fine.frogs I am out of there Grin

So walk was waaay longer than intended,but most pleasant (and the bunny poo was around but we saw none probably due to few dogs around so tadpoles made up for that) we strolled via shops on way back returning to home around 11.30.so I don't mind if zoolets want hide on devices for a while as they've had a good dose fresh air and exercise all at a time that wasn't so hot I wilted or dd2 crisped (hint sun's rays and she starts burning.....)

More washing on airer
More in machine
Zoolets lunch-hot food as I cba layer once the sun's beating thru kitchen window.cool cats(veggie hot dogsGrin) in buns with lots red pepper slices,crisps and pears

HillsBesideTheSea · 21/04/2018 12:47

I have just had a very quick look at the threads and HQ have updated the data breach q&A page, looking like they are taking some concerns into account and updating policies accordingly. Will find out more later.

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