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Westminstenders: Super Saturday

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RedToothBrush · 18/10/2019 23:02

Parliament sits on a Saturday for the first time since the Falklands.

A deal has been reached with the EU. Its utterly shite and worse for the UK than May's deal. It even leaves no deal as an option after transition.

The DUP don't like it. They got predictably shafted.

Tomorrow is a debate and vote on the deal. Amendments are key, in particular the Letwin amendment which seeks to close a loophole in the Benn Act and stop the Deal being adopted tomorrow, instead forcing the ultimate decision over the deal to a later date and forcing an extension.

Which the EU may or may not agree to.

There is also talk of forcing another ref via amendments but this, unlike the Letwin amendment is unlikely to pass.

The vote tomorrow looks to be very tight. The Letwin amendment passes looks likely to make Johnson fail to have the numbers. However there is talk that enough Labour MPs have decided to back the deal.

There is also a big anti Brexit march in London tomorrow (which runs the risk of having problems with the Extinction Rebellion ban). Good luck to everyone going tomorrow.

See you on the other side (which might now be on this thread!!)

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BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 19/10/2019 09:41

I think Patel has a crush on bozo judging by the expression on her face.

prettybird · 19/10/2019 09:41

This government acts like a tantrumming toddler, doesn't it? Pathetic.

I was just saying this to dh last night I know we've said it frequently - and contrasting it with the patience and, yes, support shown by the EU and its negotiators. There have been times that I've been astounded that Barnier hasn't just turned round and said, "Fine then, fuck off and see what life will be like in your splendid isolation. You've made your bed, now lie in it"

But he's too professional. Despite the fact that this protracted shenanigans have kiboshed his own political ambitions. He continues to display integrity, calm, patience - and hope Smile

I love the fact that he agreed that the 48% had been ignored in the negotiations by the UK.

TokyoSushi · 19/10/2019 09:43

Twitter says Lerwin passes, BJ still won't send the letter but will bring a bill to have a MV on this deal on Tuesday.

Not sure how he gets round sending the letter though?

TokyoSushi · 19/10/2019 09:44

I agree Bercows, I think she loves that she's the PM's BFF and fancies him in some way!

Either that or she has a vert odd 'resting smirking face'

prettybird · 19/10/2019 09:44

Can't watch the TV and follow this thread as dh is currently watching the rugby (supporting Australia Wink) so my alternative is iPlayer on the phone. Hmm

I think I'll get a better analysis vicariously via Westministenders - and the TV has a better chance of survival Grin

NoWordForFluffy · 19/10/2019 09:46

He doesn't, Tokyo. The Court will intervene if he doesn't. And he'll have to provide a witness statement to the Scottish court to explain why he hasn't sent it when he told them he would. Awkward! I wouldn't like to be his Barrister (bollocking ahead!).

NoWordForFluffy · 19/10/2019 09:47

I should be at the allotment. I'm struggling to get my arse off the sofa though.

BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 19/10/2019 09:47

How the hell will they stop goods going from NI to the ROI (and onwards?) goodwill??

IDontBelieveYou · 19/10/2019 09:49

PMK

prettybird · 19/10/2019 09:49

It's a charter for smuggling Bercows Confused - ideal for fundraising for the paramilitaries Sad - as TiP warned me ages ago Sad

dontcallmelen · 19/10/2019 09:52

PMK thank you Red & everyone hoping the flower pic might cheer us a little, I’m just listening to the lying fucker now.

Westminstenders: Super Saturday
PotterHead1985 · 19/10/2019 09:53

We all know how good your judgement is mate!!!!

dontcallmelen · 19/10/2019 09:54

Songs hope you are ok💐

prettybird · 19/10/2019 09:55

Beautiful flowers dontcallmelen Thanks

CrunchyCarrot · 19/10/2019 09:55

Yech Priti Patel's face, I really can't watch! Just listening instead.

TokyoSushi · 19/10/2019 09:58

OK sounds like maybe he will write the letter but will be something along the lines of 'Dear Jean-Claude, I wrote to request a pointless, expensive extension to the Brexit deadline that I wholeheartedly disagree with' - fabulous 🙄

BigChocFrenzy · 19/10/2019 09:59

Bercow, Pretty The Irish Sea border checks that goods coming from GB to NI are compliant with EU regs
It is much easier to police a sea border, which is why the EU have always wanted this.

That means there is no need for a border in Ireland and goods can travel freely

Yes, there will be a small leakage of unchecked goods from GB,
but the EU regard this as unimportant, since NI is

NoWordForFluffy · 19/10/2019 09:59

He has to use the letter in the Benn Act, Tokyo, not his own. And he can't write a second letter with it as it frustrates the law.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 19/10/2019 10:01

I want to watch Parliament but I don’t want to listen to BJ.

PanemEtCircenses · 19/10/2019 10:01

DUP MPs look FURIOUS.

Peregrina · 19/10/2019 10:01

Norman Lamb now voting against Johnson's Deal. If Johnson doesn't pull the vote, that is.

NoWordForFluffy · 19/10/2019 10:02

Interesting, Peregrina. 🤔🤔

Hasenstein · 19/10/2019 10:03

Right, PMK and off to the march.

DW wants to get herself arrested, but I'll try to steer her away from trouble!

prettybird · 19/10/2019 10:04

I understand that BigChoc - but the amount of smuggling "leakage" that the EU can thole will still provide ample opportunity for the paramilitaries smugglers to make money. Sad

Peregrina · 19/10/2019 10:04

I think I predicted that Johnson would go for the half cock arrangement that he's come up with. I don't know which thread I predicted it on, so can't quote myself, but I was told it was a non-starter.

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