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Brexit

Westminstenders: Super Saturday

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RedToothBrush · 18/10/2019 23:02

Parliament sits on a Saturday for the first time since the Falklands.

A deal has been reached with the EU. Its utterly shite and worse for the UK than May's deal. It even leaves no deal as an option after transition.

The DUP don't like it. They got predictably shafted.

Tomorrow is a debate and vote on the deal. Amendments are key, in particular the Letwin amendment which seeks to close a loophole in the Benn Act and stop the Deal being adopted tomorrow, instead forcing the ultimate decision over the deal to a later date and forcing an extension.

Which the EU may or may not agree to.

There is also talk of forcing another ref via amendments but this, unlike the Letwin amendment is unlikely to pass.

The vote tomorrow looks to be very tight. The Letwin amendment passes looks likely to make Johnson fail to have the numbers. However there is talk that enough Labour MPs have decided to back the deal.

There is also a big anti Brexit march in London tomorrow (which runs the risk of having problems with the Extinction Rebellion ban). Good luck to everyone going tomorrow.

See you on the other side (which might now be on this thread!!)

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prettybird · 19/10/2019 15:19

What is rapidly disappearing down the plug hole in an ever increasing whirlpool is any pretence at respecting parliamentary democracy by the government as it connives at every more tortuous political shenanigans Angry

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 19/10/2019 15:20

BJ could send the letter but refuse to discuss it with the EU. He can request without negotiating.

QueenWhatevs · 19/10/2019 15:20

Thank you @ChazsBrilliantAttitude

Hoooo · 19/10/2019 15:20

"Some chick"

Hard to believe it's the 21st century sometimes, isn't it?

Pandaintheporridge · 19/10/2019 15:21

If calling female politicians "chicks" doesn't count as misogyny, I don't know what does.

HunkyDory69 · 19/10/2019 15:22

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pigeononthegate · 19/10/2019 15:22

Agree Chaz, JRM looked like he was going to shit a kidney. Very satisfying.

prettybird · 19/10/2019 15:23

I think what Bercow is saying is that Smug has cocked up in trying to change Monday's business via a Point of Order.

I know I shouldn't but....Grin

Hoooo · 19/10/2019 15:24

Anything that upsets JRM is a good thing

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 19/10/2019 15:24

Just to clarify something as it is quite confusing
Parliament approving the deal does not make it binding law in the UK. Parliament has to pass legislation to implement the deal. The legislation is critical and if that was not passed then we have a No Deal Brexit even if Parliament had approved the deal. That is what Letwin was worried about.

BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 19/10/2019 15:24

Borrowed cat is purring on my lapSmile

Where has everyone gone? The chamber is almost empty.

MockersthefeMANist · 19/10/2019 15:25

So by no means clear at present if the Govt's proposed motion tomorrow will be in order.

pigeononthegate · 19/10/2019 15:25

Peter Beeeeaaauuuuuuune is "fed up" Grin

ClashCityRocker · 19/10/2019 15:25

So BJ (regardless of what he says) will need to request the extension.

EU could presumably offer a short extension in order to get the required legislation through?

Could the legislation go through before the 31st? In terms of timing?

flouncyfanny · 19/10/2019 15:27

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prettybird · 19/10/2019 15:28

Smug trying to say that the emergency statement and business will be on Monday.

Bercow tells him, "It will be if it's orderly" Grin That's him telt Grin

Outsomnia · 19/10/2019 15:28

The chamber is emptying because Tories once again walk out when SNP j cherry in this instance got up to speak.

MockersthefeMANist · 19/10/2019 15:29

The problem with all this smartarsed fuckery is the govt. has no majority and has now pissed off the DUP as well.

prettybird · 19/10/2019 15:29

Indeed Outsomnia .... it's doing wonders for support for Scottish Independence Grin

ContinuityError · 19/10/2019 15:30

Rees-Mogg proposing that Section 13 1b is debated on Monday:

Parliamentary approval of the outcome of negotiations with the EU

13 (1)The withdrawal agreement may be ratified only if—

(b)the negotiated withdrawal agreement and the framework for the future relationship have been approved by a resolution of the House of Commons on a motion moved by a Minister of the Crown

Bercow to take advice and rule on Monday on whether this can be brought back for debate.

Oakenbeach · 19/10/2019 15:30

BJ hacking off DUP has proved key to Letwin passing - if they hadn't voted for it, Lwtwin wouldn't have passed.

If they’d have abstained, it still will have passed. They were never going to actively vote for BJ!

flouncyfanny · 19/10/2019 15:31

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ArseDarkly · 19/10/2019 15:31

So if the letter isn't sent by 11pm Bozo has broken the law?

ContinuityError · 19/10/2019 15:31

Opportunity for amendments to be made if debated again on Monday.

Pandaintheporridge · 19/10/2019 15:32

The SNP should speak in their support now and then when the chamber has emptied - just for the lols. (What you mean you missed the bit where we offered to vote with you? Shame )