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Westminstenders: Lets get on with...

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RedToothBrush · 05/05/2019 09:48

Admitting the mandate for leaving has expired.

The newspapers today are full of Talk of both Corbyn and May panicking that Brexit is destroying their parties, so after nearly 3 years of party politics they have decided that actually they can agree on something in the next week or so. Not because it's in the national interest but because they don't fancy mutual self assured destruction.

If they do manage to cobble something together then it with be rushed and shite.

If they don't they will be punished at the Euro elections by a Remain / Leave pincer action.

They can spin it all they like from their local election disaster that it was people wanting to get on with Brexit. It certainly does not change the reality that those people who were most likely to vote are fed up with the pair of them. And that there is a strong indication that the most motivated voters are remain leaning. Perhaps its true that leavers stayed home in protest. If they did, what will they do if the Brexit Party stand candidates at a general election? Maybe they will vote, but you can't argue that they view voting itself as an important act. Spoilt ballots were up, but not that up. If the pair do manage a deal, then we have Brexited which might satisfy some. The trouble is the underlying issues are not to do with the European Union. And even if we leave with a deal that does not resolve our future trading relationship. The poison that is Brexit won't end. And the voters will realise that soon enough. Leaving even with a deal will harm the economy, and that's only going to fuel discontent.

It's therefore hard to see where either party go from here. Not when they are effectively split internally. The poison is here to stay.

Spinning it as 'it shows the public want us to get on with Brexit' isn't going to help their cause with voters who still think leaving is a national disaster. Those voters will still think its a national disaster and will be even more pissed at being ignored and dismissed once again.

Where is the incentive to return to voting Labour or Conservative?

The Euro Elections, if they go ahead, will therefore be about one thing and one thing only: turnout. Even if the Brexit Party do relatively well, it will be about how many turnout in comparison to the locals and in comparison to the last EU elections. Whilst they might not admit the reality of things, ultimately all Labour and Conservatives really care about is securing the vote of people who will vote because voting intention doesn't win them seats if people don't turnout.

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borntobequiet · 06/05/2019 10:24

Turquoise is a lovely colour but has unfortunate connotations
m.youtube.com/watch?v=oAUsEgq2HPg

prettybird · 06/05/2019 10:31

Explains a lot Grin

RedToothBrush · 06/05/2019 10:36

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tory-leadership-contenders-show-off-wives-and-policies-vtc0vrxgz
Tory leadership contenders show off wives and policies

Next week The Wives get to parade in swimwear and give a little speech about what they'd like to do if they won Ms British Empire.

This is the UK in 2019 not America in 1950 in case anyone was getting confused.

These pictures are god awful too. Do you know any men that dress like that casually? It's like an upper class horror style show. Can't we have one of those makeover shows just for male MPs please?

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RedToothBrush · 06/05/2019 10:37

Teal is my favourite colour. Does this mean I can't decorate in it, because people might think it's turquoise?

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RedToothBrush · 06/05/2019 10:38

I'll bet my hat that Bannon is funding Farage.

No. Koch.

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LonelyTiredandLow · 06/05/2019 10:54

COuld explain why Tories went for the parroting of Farage on all things Brexit rather than admitting it would be a huge balls up as they quite likely have the same backers. Conflict of interest perchance?

Does make you wonder why Corbyn is apparently going along for the ride...

Clavinova · 06/05/2019 10:55

Do you know any men that dress like that casually?

The photos remind me of Tony and Cherie Blair.

Can't we have one of those makeover shows just for male MPs please

Does that include Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell? Grin

RedToothBrush · 06/05/2019 11:01

ALL OF THEM

Otto English has a very Tory take on 'Tory Wives':

Otto English @Otto_english
Dominic Raab's wife Erika is from Brazil I see. Proving once again that immigrants are prepared to take on the toughest jobs that British people aren't prepared to do

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1tisILeClerc · 06/05/2019 11:03

{Next week The Wives get to parade in swimwear and give a little speech about what they'd like to do if they won Ms British Empire. }

In the are of equality I think we should start with all the 'men' of the cabinet and HoC in speedos.

RedToothBrush · 06/05/2019 11:09

In the are of equality I think we should start with all the 'men' of the cabinet and HoC in speedos.

Oh yes please!!!

Oh no.

Wait.

Gove, Grayling, Hammond, Lidington, Gauke, Javid, Barclay, Hancock, Clark, Fox, Hinds, Brokenshire, Stewart, Hunt, Wright, Lewis...

And don't forget the backbench hopefuls of Johnson and Williamson!

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Littlespaces · 06/05/2019 11:12

Ugh. It is like the 1970's.

Shudder.

LonelyTiredandLow · 06/05/2019 11:13

1tisILeClerc - double horror for us ladies! Shock

This was the wife who's background Hunt couldn't remember? Why do they look like an advertisement for SunnyD?

1tisILeClerc · 06/05/2019 11:16

{Ugh. It is like the 1970's. }

Isn't this what the true Be-Leavers want?

RedToothBrush · 06/05/2019 11:17

Yep Hunt's wife he referred to as Japanese. Which made me think whether he married her for love or because he'd found a good little wife off the Internet at the time. I'm not sure this helping me with that impression of how little he thinks of his wife.

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RedToothBrush · 06/05/2019 11:17

Yep. Leavers who think feminism is a force for ill.

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woman19 · 06/05/2019 11:22

Do you know any men that dress like that casually
Trim and tasty. Handsome Hedge fund manager Phil rocks the Paradise Papers look. "Hands off my Assets Manager." laughs his owner, Teresa, when asked about Phil's vital statistics.

PIcture to follow.Wink

Clavinova · 06/05/2019 11:25

Why do they look like an advertisement for SunnyD?

Dominic Raab's wife is a marketing executive...

woman19 · 06/05/2019 11:28

Vote Tory For Stepford Wives. Grin

1tisILeClerc · 06/05/2019 11:28

Is tweed with a deerstalker not 'smart casual' any more? I must get my wardrobe fixed.

LonelyTiredandLow · 06/05/2019 11:37

@Clavinova that certainly explains a lot Grin

I always wondered how they got them to believe in "The Power Pose". There was a hilarious photograph of Widdicombe trying to do it for the Purple Penises Party and actually looking like she was having a widdle

RedToothBrush · 06/05/2019 11:40

Parade in budgie smugglers with power pose when the Tory Leadership Election starts in earnest.

Penny, Andrea and Amber must get their partners to do the honours for them.

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RedToothBrush · 06/05/2019 11:45

Meanwhile in Scotland:

Ruth Davidson @ ruthdavidsonMSP
It's a brave politician who purposefully stands under a 'semen tested' sign and styles it out. Well done, @1edmountain - hope your beasts do well at the bull sales.

Edward Mountain MSP @1edmountain
3 Bulls at Stirling today

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1tisILeClerc · 06/05/2019 12:29

I think we need some proper Brexit developments otherwise this thread could go horribly wrong.

Sostenueto · 06/05/2019 12:33

So TM sacks GW for leaking ( yes I know it was security council) then leaks talks with JC. Still a leak so shouldn't she practise what she preaches? 😂

NoWordForFluffy · 06/05/2019 12:33

We've been through a whole gamut of topics since the Easter break, so we're probably about to reach 'horribly wrong' levels, aren't we?!