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RedToothBrush · 24/01/2019 21:24

Brexit invoked the spirit of WWII's Churchill. Instead its shaping up to be more like Gallipolli...

...if Gallipolli had been instigated by Captain Mainwaring not Churchill.

The point has come where the exit button is being hit by businesses. Everywhere. In the absence of certainity they have no alternative. Its costing them a fortune already. Ford reported today that fortune was $800 billion. And amongst all the other problems widewide it was facing, which mean it is looking to cut costs, it looks grim for their 14,000 workers in the UK if we end up with no deal.

And still Esther does a video about how we should love WTO terms and a Tory MEP says Airbus's latest warnings are just Project Fear II. Its easy to say that if its not your job on the line I guess. Or your life.

And now the narrative of the prefect brexit has moved on. Again. At the start it was 'all the benefits of the EU minus migration, then 'a Norway style deal', then we went to 'Canada Plus is best, then 'lets no deal and go to WTO'. The latest is 'oh well we can ignore WTO rules at the start because they won't catch up with us for 18 months'. The absence of a plan and the hatred for the EU is growing in a worrying fashion, and there shouldn't be any doubt of where it seeks to go.

Jacob Rees-Mogg yesterday stated that May should prerogue parliament to ensure Brexit. Even though he is fully aware that the legislation even to enable WTO in the event of no deal is not in place. This is about as far removed from democracy as you can go, before you actively start openly advocating for its removal. This desire to close parliament had previously been expressed by one Tory MP and has since been repeated by David Jones MP and is liable to become the next big Brexiteer trope. Indeed reading twitter BEFORE JRM declaration, this view to shut down parliament was already being widely expressed.

Indeed one anonymous senior Tory MP has remarked this week; “If you knock on a door and they have books on their shelves, you can be pretty sure these days they’re not voting Tory”.

So people are stockpiling quietly. They are hoarding what medication they can. They are ridiculed in the media for it. And yet with government advice to business and the increasing awareness of supply chain problems, visa issues and the effect of Brexit on the GFA people are getting more and more concerned and nervous. Its almost as if government doesn't understand the mechanics of how the country functions.

People understand what is happening. They are the people who keep the production lines running and they are the people who ensure that people are fed and healthy and are kept safe. They aren't 'experts' just experts in their own lives and reality.

We move into next week with attempt two of May trying to get the WA through parliament. It still seems inconceivable she can at this stage. But who knows?

Parliament is moving to try and remove no deal from the table. The Cooper- Boles Amendment is the one to watch. Despite this stopping no deal is still beyond their control under certain circumstances. No deal happens on 29th March regardless of whether we are ready. Unless we extend or revoke, and extending is beyond the scope of our parliament alone. And extending still fails to remove the threat of no deal at a later stage. It merely prolongs the agony and uncertainty. We are in desparate need of a resolution which formerly ties us closely to the EU in whatever form that comes.

On the other hand, there are moves tonight for a Murrison II amendment to end the backstop that is being backed by both Graham Brady and close May ally and deal supporter Damien Green. This is in contrast to the EU who today have doubled down in saying the backstop is none negogiable and the WA will not be ratified by the EU if there are changes to the backstop. So it looks like we may be headed for a collision course on this, which could result in No Deal.

We are now also told from a senior government source, that Theresa May has had, in the last few days, "a lightbulb moment as to the impact of no-deal on British manufacturing." as if this is supposed to reassure us. This is 2 and a half years after she became Prime Minister.

Its only a matter of time before national anxieties across the country progress into full on outright panic. We are getting very close to that moment.

For our sanity and for all our futures we need this government to take back control from the ERG and their ilk who are leading us down a path to destruction. Before its too late.

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PestymcPestFace · 25/01/2019 21:14

Gove is not as bright as it seems kronoc.com/files/Case_Against_NI_Peace_Process_Gove.pdf his struggle is with being a populist.

Lucygoeswalkies · 25/01/2019 21:15

Cats. Just because Smile

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Apileofballyhoo · 25/01/2019 21:16

From that politics article Red posted - well worth the read for a concise summary of what's going on, thanks Red.

There are not enough heads or desks in the world to express the extent of their limitless stupidity.

It's referring to the DUP but it could be about any of them really, couldn't it?

It didn't mention Hilary Benn's amendment though. He was on Rté radio 1 today. Is it a goner?

durgha · 25/01/2019 21:17

Grinchly, I nearly googled *lamnotatory". Grin Grin. They are bulbous candles. Right. Back to the real stuff. x

TheElementsSong · 25/01/2019 21:17

I don't seem to have many photos of DCat that don't also include the humans, but here are some gorgeous residents of our favourite cat cafe:

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Grinchly · 25/01/2019 21:22

Stunning, element.

SingingBabooshkaBadly · 25/01/2019 21:25

Aw, you made me tear up a bit...

Grinchly · 25/01/2019 21:25

Also lucy . The black cat looks disconcertingly familiar.

PerverseConverse · 25/01/2019 21:27

Goodnight all. Thanks as always for keeping us informed. The week has gone so quickly can't believe a week ago tomorrow we were horrified at the car bomb in Derry. And the government are still no further on. Lots of dire predictions but nothing to instil any confidence in anything good coming of this great mess. Here's hoping TM gets her arse in gear over the weekend and comes up with something sensible plan to revoke.

bananacake2134 · 25/01/2019 21:32

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nuttynutjob · 25/01/2019 21:34

PCPlum- your post made me weep. It's a sad indictment of a society we have become since the austerity has been imposed. I wish you all the best

Pretty- Condolences.

EMA- Goodbye... So sad that EMA will not be in the UK anymore. Sad, sad times.

7Days · 25/01/2019 21:35

Even revoke isn't a magic wand.
There are deep divisions exposed, and stirrers who have realised they like discord and division will keep on

Moussemoose · 25/01/2019 21:36

Yeah bananacake2134 my cat would agree with you but he is foreign.

My cat also lacks a sense a of humour.

Lucygoeswalkies · 25/01/2019 21:36

bananacake would you perhaps prefer it if we posted pictures of very distressed children in horrible circumstances?

PootlesBobbleHat · 25/01/2019 21:36

Uh huh

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StoorieHoose · 25/01/2019 21:37

I was going to post a picture of my dog but being Scottish I’m wondering what bananacake will say about Scots

LurkyMcLurky · 25/01/2019 21:38

Don't have anything to offer in the way of analysis or insight but do have LurkyCat, looking cute and, erm, ugly. we luffs her though

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durgha · 25/01/2019 21:39

What are you doing, banana, and where are you castigating the English from?

borntobequiet · 25/01/2019 21:42

Yes, we’re stupid and cruel. Here’s a much nicer thread with kinder people on it. You might have more fun there, Banana.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/style_and_beauty/3479058-Royal-style-gossip-look-out-duchesses-about

Lucygoeswalkies · 25/01/2019 21:42

Grinchly the black cat isn’t called Macavity, but...Wink

bellinisurge · 25/01/2019 21:42

"You English"Hmm. Not a drop of English blood in my body.
I think you are turning righteous anger into personal turmoil. I'm sorry but I have my own shit and and not going to get dragged into your obsessions.

ThereWillBeAdequateFood · 25/01/2019 21:42

I want a cat. Curse dh and his appalling allergies.

durgha · 25/01/2019 21:45

Lurky , you are lucky to have Lurkycat. She's luscious.

2beesornot2beesthatisthehoney · 25/01/2019 21:46

Elelments did you busy your beauty from a breeder of Maine Coons in Wolverhampton? I see a likeness!

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Quietrebel · 25/01/2019 21:48

We're all humans banana, stupidity and cruelty are the only two things distributed around the world in scrupulously equal measures.

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