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Westminsterenders: Don't Panic. Really Don't Panic. Honestly Don't Panic.

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RedToothBrush · 24/01/2019 21:24

Brexit invoked the spirit of WWII's Churchill. Instead its shaping up to be more like Gallipolli...

...if Gallipolli had been instigated by Captain Mainwaring not Churchill.

The point has come where the exit button is being hit by businesses. Everywhere. In the absence of certainity they have no alternative. Its costing them a fortune already. Ford reported today that fortune was $800 billion. And amongst all the other problems widewide it was facing, which mean it is looking to cut costs, it looks grim for their 14,000 workers in the UK if we end up with no deal.

And still Esther does a video about how we should love WTO terms and a Tory MEP says Airbus's latest warnings are just Project Fear II. Its easy to say that if its not your job on the line I guess. Or your life.

And now the narrative of the prefect brexit has moved on. Again. At the start it was 'all the benefits of the EU minus migration, then 'a Norway style deal', then we went to 'Canada Plus is best, then 'lets no deal and go to WTO'. The latest is 'oh well we can ignore WTO rules at the start because they won't catch up with us for 18 months'. The absence of a plan and the hatred for the EU is growing in a worrying fashion, and there shouldn't be any doubt of where it seeks to go.

Jacob Rees-Mogg yesterday stated that May should prerogue parliament to ensure Brexit. Even though he is fully aware that the legislation even to enable WTO in the event of no deal is not in place. This is about as far removed from democracy as you can go, before you actively start openly advocating for its removal. This desire to close parliament had previously been expressed by one Tory MP and has since been repeated by David Jones MP and is liable to become the next big Brexiteer trope. Indeed reading twitter BEFORE JRM declaration, this view to shut down parliament was already being widely expressed.

Indeed one anonymous senior Tory MP has remarked this week; “If you knock on a door and they have books on their shelves, you can be pretty sure these days they’re not voting Tory”.

So people are stockpiling quietly. They are hoarding what medication they can. They are ridiculed in the media for it. And yet with government advice to business and the increasing awareness of supply chain problems, visa issues and the effect of Brexit on the GFA people are getting more and more concerned and nervous. Its almost as if government doesn't understand the mechanics of how the country functions.

People understand what is happening. They are the people who keep the production lines running and they are the people who ensure that people are fed and healthy and are kept safe. They aren't 'experts' just experts in their own lives and reality.

We move into next week with attempt two of May trying to get the WA through parliament. It still seems inconceivable she can at this stage. But who knows?

Parliament is moving to try and remove no deal from the table. The Cooper- Boles Amendment is the one to watch. Despite this stopping no deal is still beyond their control under certain circumstances. No deal happens on 29th March regardless of whether we are ready. Unless we extend or revoke, and extending is beyond the scope of our parliament alone. And extending still fails to remove the threat of no deal at a later stage. It merely prolongs the agony and uncertainty. We are in desparate need of a resolution which formerly ties us closely to the EU in whatever form that comes.

On the other hand, there are moves tonight for a Murrison II amendment to end the backstop that is being backed by both Graham Brady and close May ally and deal supporter Damien Green. This is in contrast to the EU who today have doubled down in saying the backstop is none negogiable and the WA will not be ratified by the EU if there are changes to the backstop. So it looks like we may be headed for a collision course on this, which could result in No Deal.

We are now also told from a senior government source, that Theresa May has had, in the last few days, "a lightbulb moment as to the impact of no-deal on British manufacturing." as if this is supposed to reassure us. This is 2 and a half years after she became Prime Minister.

Its only a matter of time before national anxieties across the country progress into full on outright panic. We are getting very close to that moment.

For our sanity and for all our futures we need this government to take back control from the ERG and their ilk who are leading us down a path to destruction. Before its too late.

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Grinchly · 25/01/2019 20:49

More cats as requested

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Ta1kinPeace · 25/01/2019 20:50

durgha
Yes, some are. I remember the National Front race riots of the 70's and the horror of the New Cross Fire.
BUT conflating that with MAGA is not useful to the discussion

endlessly quoting Umberto Eco is not moving forwards

Ta1kinPeace · 25/01/2019 20:52

Cats :
reposting Zingiber the compost heap cat who came back from the dead to rule the roost
when I'm as old and as broken as her (look at that front leg)
I want her attitude

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bananacake2134 · 25/01/2019 20:53

durgha
would you be better off finding a group of people who dress their kids as nazis so that you don't need to argue with folk who are largely in agreement with you

durgha · 25/01/2019 20:55

And unasked for dugs.

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usuallydormant · 25/01/2019 20:57

www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2019/0125/1025512-brexit-republic-episode-24/

A new episode of Brexit Republic with Tony Connelly. I’m torn between him and Ian Dunt for favorite Brexit commentator.... He’s reporting from Davos and there’s some interesting discussion around the backstop and the reasons why politicians might be afraid to state the obvious about no deal and the implications of a hard border as well as the many possible complications.

He also mentioned that David Cameron was at Davos hosting a Chatham House rules dinner....

I think anyone interested in a well informed Irish perspective on Brexit will “enjoy” this.

LonelyandTiredandLow · 25/01/2019 20:58

banana the poster said her son had a hat for fancy dress parties ergo he is probably NOT a MAGA fan, but is taking the piss out of them.

Grinchly · 25/01/2019 20:58

Love the dogs @durgha !Grin

But what the a f is growing out of that piece of furniture Shock

phpolly · 25/01/2019 20:58

I do think of "populism" as it exists here and on the other side of The Atlantic at the moment as synonymous with racism fwiw.
But right now I just want to look at your gorgeous cats and dogs.

bellinisurge · 25/01/2019 20:59

Love the dogs picture

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PootlesBobbleHat · 25/01/2019 21:00

I just did my first Brexit stockpile shop

Basically bought double of everything. It's not much but it's a start. Trouble is my DH is one of the 'they won't let it get that bad' 'of course there will be food' 'I haven't read anything about Brexit but I'm sure there won't be any issues with supplies, why would there be?' types, who thinks I've suddenly developed an anxiety disorder, so he's agreed to buying extra but now I'm storing it he's insisting that we can just eat it then buy more...So the stash is likely to last 2 weeks tops (he's the kind of gannet where if there's stuff in the house, he'll hoof it down his throat)

So when he's not here I may move it around and hide it under the stairs.

I've perfected my bread making technique so I'm hopeful that we won't be fighting in the aisles come B-day.

Quietrebel · 25/01/2019 21:01

Mad And Gormless Arseholes

PootlesBobbleHat · 25/01/2019 21:02

Meant to say thanks to Bellini for the courage to do the actual shop.

borntobequiet · 25/01/2019 21:03

My little (surviving) cat - she’s 15 - in her favourite cosy place behind the heater.

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Hazardswans · 25/01/2019 21:03

pcplums that sounds amazing doing a small play. Shove all the politics you can into it. Sadly I'm aware of the funding cuts for addiction treatment (DP was in a related field). A very dumb funding cut, people just get sicker and desperate. Not going to have a healthy or happy society without treatment for addiction. Can't believe UC is still screwing you around! Thank heavens you have a safety net but I am so sorry your having to rely on arsehole husband. But that's why your inspiring..your in recovery, UC messing you about, yet your volunteering AND about to write a play! How could I not be inspired by that?
He's much the same, odd good day. We've got to twist the GPs arm for an out of area referral...they'll say no and then we have to decide to fight or not. Apparently just doing the best thing medically isn't economical or popular these days.
Keep being you and I hope you can ditch the arsehole soon Flowers

durgha · 25/01/2019 21:04

Ta 1. That's me telt Wink

borntobequiet · 25/01/2019 21:04

Didn’t bloody post!

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borntobequiet · 25/01/2019 21:04

Oh it did...

GingerPCatt · 25/01/2019 21:05

Hiding under the duvet until the brexshit madness is over.

Grinchly · 25/01/2019 21:05

My beautiful faithful darlings. Gone within a year aged 18 and 14.
I will never be quite the same again.

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RedToothBrush · 25/01/2019 21:06

BBC newsnight @BBC newsnight
TONIGHT: Commons Leader Andrea Leadsom has told Newsnight the EU may be prepared to grant the UK a "couple of extra weeks" beyond the 29th March deadline to finalise preparations for Brexit.

22:30 @BBCTwo | @andrealeadsom | @MarkUrban01

A couple of weeks...

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durgha · 25/01/2019 21:08

Grinchly, is it the terror towel, another dog, or something else I haven't noticed?Shock. If it's the giant thumb, that's just the giant's thumb. She's lovely, but is eating us out of house and home.

borntobequiet · 25/01/2019 21:10

Leadsom is one of those people who sounds as though she’s talking sense until you realise that her reality mirrors our own but is removed from it by some inexplicable twist in the fabric of spacetime. (Gove is another.)

borntobequiet · 25/01/2019 21:11

Though Gove is admittedly brighter.

Grinchly · 25/01/2019 21:11

durgha The mushrooms on the ? Bureau.
Disclaimer I have some too, but secreted away amongst the book shelves that apparently prove Iamnotatory Grin

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