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"Soubry Is A Nazi...."

202 replies

JSmitty · 07/01/2019 17:51

I'm sure she's far from perfect like the rest of us, but I can't see the connection:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-46785941/brexit-anna-soubry-mp-shouted-down-by-protesters-on-tv

The earlier chant, though, was spot on:

"Soubry is a lawyer....."

(If I heard rightly?)

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Quietrebel · 08/01/2019 18:00

@angstman
Great post!

Helmetbymidnight · 08/01/2019 18:01

Her husband's business interests where he employs EU migrant workers, and I think that is totally unfair

I don’t think she’s married, is she?

How do you mean it’s unfair?

Do you mean its unfair like jrm or Jeremy hunt failing to disclose their business interests to the house?

Moussemoose · 08/01/2019 18:21

Lots of excellent points @angstman.

The pedant in me makes me say the working classes also fought against Mosley - Cable Street being the most famous examples.

Mosley and his cronies were from the upper classes, the Mitfords (not all), some Royalty, and others among the upper classes were all fans of Hitler.

I find some of the parallels with Weimar very disturbing, the media projecting myths as reality, the use of democracy to oppress minorities, populism and the belief that feelings matter more than logic. It is a source of concern and distress to me.

ratchethandler · 08/01/2019 18:27

Yep EDL stuff is abhorrent And Robinson is an thug and an idiot to boot. The point I'm making is that Soubry is very quick to offer her views and her labels, not least towards Brexiters. The person who barracked her, saw her the same way.

Remainers seem to have a need to dishonestly pretend a bit of shouting equates to some kind of crisis. They've been doing little else for the past 2.5 years.

JSmitty · 08/01/2019 18:29

It appears that Shouty Tabard Man has been chucked off Facebook.

Too poopy for the toliet is very poopy indeed.

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Huffleypuff · 08/01/2019 18:29

She wasn’t criticising all Brexit supporters in that clip though, just the small racist element who seem to think Brexit has given them a new platform to air their views

Helmetbymidnight · 08/01/2019 18:29

No I don’t understand I’ve played that video a few times - what is she saying that warrants a group of people chanting nazi at her.

ratchethandler · 08/01/2019 18:32

A referendum is a very blunt and not particularly democratic tool when the issue is as complex as our membership of the EU.

No amount of mental gymnastics or pseudo intellectual blather changes the fact that basically you don't see yourself as one of the people but as one of those who should allow or disallow the people their vote. You are simply an elitist snob.

BreakWindandFire · 08/01/2019 18:32

That yellow vest mob led by James Goddard were filmed yesterday abusing the police outside Parliament as well, with Goddard telling a black officer that he 'wasn't even British'. And several female journalists (Kay Burley, Dawn Foster) have said that the group threatened to rape them.

These are just EDL thugs looking for a fight.

Helmetbymidnight · 08/01/2019 18:33

So you genuinely feel that calling Anna soubrey a traitor and a nazi is virtually equivalent to calling the the EDL fascists and racists?

Gosh.

1tisILeClerc · 08/01/2019 18:33

{Remainers seem to have a need to dishonestly pretend a bit of shouting equates to some kind of crisis. They've been doing little else for the past 2.5 years.}
A bit of shouting is nothing compared to the mess the UK is really in.

ratchethandler · 08/01/2019 18:40

Helmet That is not at all what I meant and I will not consent to you putting words in my mouth.

Your Cathy Newman tactics aren't working, are they? Perhaps you should give being honest a try?

Helmetbymidnight · 08/01/2019 18:43

Ok so Anna Soubrey is ‘hardly blameless’ - my understanding of that is she - in some way - deserves or invited the situation she was in.
Those were your words, no?

Helmetbymidnight · 08/01/2019 18:44

What was your link supposed to show us then?

ratchethandler · 08/01/2019 18:49

I've already made my point as lucid as I can and am not about to repeat myself. Your problem understand them is your own .

BertrandRussell · 08/01/2019 18:49

“The point I'm making is that Soubry is very quick to offer her views and her labels, not least towards Brexitera”
Have you got a video that shows this?

Helmetbymidnight · 08/01/2019 18:55

You suggested she’s ‘hardly blameless’ and posted your link.

Neither you nor the link can explain why she - partly- deserves to have nazi chanted at her by a bunch of racist thugs.

BertrandRussell · 08/01/2019 19:05

I think she was very naughty to call those nice EDL gentlemen racists. They are not racists- they just think only Anglo Saxon people should like in England. Perfectly reasonable.

BertrandRussell · 08/01/2019 19:06

“I've already made my point as lucid as I can ”
Ah. I thought it must have been not much of a point.

1tisILeClerc · 08/01/2019 19:08

{they just think only Anglo Saxon people should like in England.}
Why not the Vikings, they invaded before the AS.

1tisILeClerc · 08/01/2019 19:09

There were Romans who actually came from many parts of Europe and the Middle East at some point too.

frumpety · 08/01/2019 19:12

I blame the press for normalising the abusive language.Sad

jasjas1973 · 08/01/2019 19:14

ratchethandler

Well, i don't get the point you are trying to make?

You seem to be saying that Soubry indirectly calling a group of people racists and fascists, some justifies a crowd of men surrounding her up close and personal, shouting and chanting insults.

This in the light of the Jo Cox murder and as i said earlier anyone could have stabbed at her or thrown acid and by the time the Police had reacted, it would all be too late.

MPs of all persuasions need to be protected from physical abuse, heckling from a distance is a different matter entirely.

derxa · 08/01/2019 19:43

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/23/police-probe-far-right-yellow-vest-group-anna-soubry
It is this group which seems to be responsible.

Mistigri · 08/01/2019 19:47

If these people had a bit more of a sun tan we'd be asking who radicalised them.