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Brexit

Westministenders: Game Over?

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RedToothBrush · 09/11/2018 16:32

May has a draft deal which she has presented to the Cabinet. Woohooo!

The catch is, it doesn't mention the Irish Border. Just a minor point. This is because she has no way forward on it. There are so many red lines from so many different groups shes tangled up in knots with them.

She wrote a letter to the DUP to tell them to suck it up. Arlene has told her to stick it. And if she hadn't told her to stick it, Scottish Tories would have told her to stick it. David Davis has told her to stick it. Rees-Moog has told her to stick it. And this afternoon, one of the Ministers for Queues at Dover, Jo Johnson, told her to stick it and that we need a people's vote. On top of that, her plans to try and get cross party support and get the Labour Party to support it, have suffered a blow as Momentum voted to tell May to stick it.

In fact it might be harder to think of people who WILL support it.

Not that this is a surprise. We've all be aware of this for some time. Is it finally game over?

The government have at least seemingly realised that this month is the last opportunity they have for a deal. Dominic has also realised that Dover is quite close to France and this is quite a big deal.

The EU pushed back their meeting until the 27th. This coincidentally is the same day there is a decision over a50 at the ECJ and the right to revoke.

If May can't get her act together over the Irish Border, this might yet prove to be the last option open to her, to prevent Brexmaggeddon.

Jo Johnson is not too far from the mark with vassalage or chaos? Take your pick Mrs May.

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DGRossetti · 09/11/2018 17:24

Many, many people are still under the delusion that Brexit is easy and will be great,

Oh the morons ? Believe me, just give them a blue passport. Tell them Brexit happened, and they'd be happy. A few library clips of people swilling pints, job done.

RedToothBrush · 09/11/2018 17:25

Jo Johnson remember, is the one who wasn't afraid to go against the overwhelming will of the people, when he refused to call a new research vessel Boaty McBoatface.

Is this one of the few times when the British Public were undisputably spot on?

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RedToothBrush · 09/11/2018 17:28

Steven Swinford @steven_swinford
Co-ordinated Johnson, Johnson, Johnson & Johnson attack klaxon:

It appears Boris Johnson, Stanley Johnson & Rachel Johnson were all aware that Jo Johnson was resigning before his announcement.

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DGRossetti · 09/11/2018 17:29

Co-ordinated Johnson, Johnson, Johnson & Johnson attack klaxon:

Incoming meme in 3...2...1 Grin

probably involving baby wipes ?

RedToothBrush · 09/11/2018 17:30

Tom Haynes @ BEERG
The 4 Johnsons of the Apocalypse?

DH is now cracking Johnson and Johnson jokes about no more tears being a lie too

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RedToothBrush · 09/11/2018 17:33

Martha Gill @martha_gill
Please don't panic. The government has stockpiled six weeks worth of Johnsons to ensure adequate supplies in an emergency

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1tisILeClerc · 09/11/2018 17:36

Sadly statistically I I won't be alive to see the notes leased after 30 years (or definitely not if it is 50) as the true back story to all this will be fascinating.

DGRossetti · 09/11/2018 17:37

Are the Johnsons the British Kennedys ?

(apply Betteridges law)

Hasenstein · 09/11/2018 17:40

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Peregrina · 09/11/2018 17:41

No, I don't expect to be alive in 30 years either.

If we do crash out, I hope to be alive to see us regain admittance. I also hope to see the reintroduction of the maroon passport too.

Hasenstein · 09/11/2018 17:43

Actually, RTB, just lazily putting a full stop as a marker is downright rude. Thanks so much for all these threads - I've still got my toothbrush in the top pocket of my jacket, just in case ...

RedToothBrush · 09/11/2018 17:43

Rachel Johnson @RachelSJohnson
Am hugely proud of my honourable and principled brother Jo who has put the interests of the country ahead of his political career

There is obviously a line missing from Rachel's tweet!

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DGRossetti · 09/11/2018 17:48

I remain cynical, but for now, I echo her feelings. His piece was a pretty honest summary - not partisan, but pragmatic, and not saying anything which didn't need saying, while saying what did ....

(Watches space ......)

RedToothBrush · 09/11/2018 17:52

Michael Crick @michaellcrick
Stanley Johnson to C4 News: "I'm reminded of Tennyson's 'Charge of the Light Brigade'. I mean volley to the left of the them, volley to right of them, and the Prime Minister charges on into the Valley of Death, and Thank God Jo's come out today with a bit of sanity."

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woman11017 · 09/11/2018 17:53

I've still got my toothbrush in the top pocket of my jacket, just in case ...
So.
This is #writethewrong day. Send postcard to PM and your MP.

Tomorrow in York.

@York4EU
Are you ready?
#YorkMarch for a #PeoplesVote, a #FinalSay on Brexit this Saturday!
St Helen's Square (that's the one with Bettys on the corner and the Mansion House), 1pm
See you there!

Most areas have Remain groups and Saturday stalls........
Google peoples vote to find more.
www.peoples-vote.uk/your_local_group

1tisILeClerc · 09/11/2018 17:54

Had he said it louder and a year or more earlier things could have been much better.

RedToothBrush · 09/11/2018 17:55

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/09/tory-mp-anna-soubry-the-young-will-never-forgive-my-party-brexit?CMP=share_btn_tw
Saturday interview
Tory MP Anna Soubry: ‘The young will never forgive my party’

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woman11017 · 09/11/2018 17:55

england has so much crumby war poetry, and it all seems to be on show in november. Blush

DGRossetti · 09/11/2018 17:55

I'll bet all four Johnsons are free for interviews this weekend. I wonder how no.10 will be able to fight that ?

Looks like we'll be seeing Theresa a-dancin' again.

DGRossetti · 09/11/2018 17:56

england has so much crumby war poetry,

It also has some zingers ...

Oh my God, did I kill a mother when I killed a mothers son ?

"Bloods dirt" he said, and moved on

woman11017 · 09/11/2018 18:01

quite DGR. Blush

BestIsWest · 09/11/2018 18:03

Just marking place.

BTW Wales is not a Principality and hasn’t been one since 1542. It’s a country!

DGRossetti · 09/11/2018 18:10

BTW Wales is not a Principality and hasn’t been one since 1542. It’s a country!

Underscoring my point about how little we are ever taught about our own country ...

RedToothBrush · 09/11/2018 18:10

Nick Gutteridge @nick_gutteridge
Michel Barnier’s deputy Sabine Weyand tonight briefed EU ambassadors that there has been no significant progress on the Irish border - the last remaining issue in the talks - due to political deadlock in London.

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RedToothBrush · 09/11/2018 18:11

Theresa a-dancin' again.

Not this weekend they won't

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