Westministenders: Game Over?

[RedToothBrush]

May has a draft deal which she has presented to the Cabinet. Woohooo!

The catch is, it doesn't mention the Irish Border. Just a minor point. This is because she has no way forward on it. There are so many red lines from so many different groups shes tangled up in knots with them.

She wrote a letter to the DUP to tell them to suck it up. Arlene has told her to stick it. And if she hadn't told her to stick it, Scottish Tories would have told her to stick it. David Davis has told her to stick it. Rees-Moog has told her to stick it. And this afternoon, one of the Ministers for Queues at Dover, Jo Johnson, told her to stick it and that we need a people's vote. On top of that, her plans to try and get cross party support and get the Labour Party to support it, have suffered a blow as Momentum voted to tell May to stick it.

In fact it might be harder to think of people who WILL support it.

Not that this is a surprise. We've all be aware of this for some time. Is it finally game over?

The government have at least seemingly realised that this month is the last opportunity they have for a deal. Dominic has also realised that Dover is quite close to France and this is quite a big deal.

The EU pushed back their meeting until the 27th. This coincidentally is the same day there is a decision over a50 at the ECJ and the right to revoke.

If May can't get her act together over the Irish Border, this might yet prove to be the last option open to her, to prevent Brexmaggeddon.

Jo Johnson is not too far from the mark with vassalage or chaos? Take your pick Mrs May.

It also has some zingers ...

Indeed.

Mama, ooooh life had just begun and now I've gone and thrown it all away.

Please see my post on the last thread about Wales .

Tory MP Anna Soubry: ‘The young will never forgive my party’

CCHQ: Who cares? They don't vote.

Alex Wickham
Alex Wickham
@alexwickham
Following Jo Johnson resignation Cabinet Brexiters are tonight saying a deal will not get thru Commons. Also saying privately that May’s plan will keep UK in CU and is worse than staying in the EU. One said if they voted on principle they would have to vote against. Here we go...

The dancing queen thing was just cringeworthy. The shame of having such a PM.

Bad dancing I can live with.

120 000 deaths, Detention camps, illegal HO tactics and the Repel act on the other hand........

Following Jo Johnson resignation Cabinet Brexiters are tonight saying a deal will not get thru Commons.

Thunck.

Thats the sound of the penny dropping.

Heseltine on Jo Johnson

I'm still waiting for ABBA to sue over the dancing queen embarrassment. They don't allow their music to be used by political parties and have sued those that have done it in the past.

So May's out, and Boris is in.

Jacob Rees-Mogg @JacobReesMogg
.@JoJohnsonUK is right to resign over the Withdrawal agreement which does not deliver on the referendum but creates a vassal state. It does not need a second referendum but backbone to deliver Brexit.

Alex Wickham @alexwickham
Govt doing their best to get onside Brexiters to tweet attacks on Jo Johnson. Fascinating that only a few have fallen for it. Most Brexiters now feeling they have more in common with a Remainer who says Brexit has become the greatest failure since Suez than they do with No10...

Jessica Elgot @jessicaelgot
Find the Number 10 reaction and general Westminster reaction to Brexiteers versus remainer resignations interesting. The Jo Johnson comment is particularly terse. One is treated as a great act of principle, the other treated as an irritating, self-indulgence.

James Felton @JimMFelton
"Where's Davis?"
"Quit"
"Lee?"
"Resigned"
"Green?"
"Fired in wanking scandal"
"Rudd?"
"Fired for something you did"
"Boris?"
"Quit in a hissy"
"His slightly less shit brother Jo Johnson?"
"Sorry to break it to you but he's just fucked off too"
...
"Ok just take the cabinet photo"

Surprise, surprise, Rees-Mogg and Davis trying to get their excuses in before the sh*t hits the fan, and hoping not to be in its way.

red Thanks for yet another thread
and I loved the James Felton quote 😂😂

All those who want the Brexiters to be in charge to take the blame:

This won't happen unless they replace May soon

For over a year, she has been hammered online for no unicorns, but blaming the "Remainer PM" has rocketed since Bojo quit.

Currently, May looks like the fall-woman, so most Leavers may never accept they made a mistake

• they'll keep thinking they've been robbed of a glorious future and they'll be just as bitter as young Remainers about that.

I can’t keep up. Still haven’t read all the last thread.

Thanks so much red

Pre-ref, but very relevant to those unicorn trade deals:

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/anthony-hilton-stay-or-go-the-lack-of-solid-facts-means-it-s-all-a-leap-of-faith-a3189151.html

... should heed the words of a leading American trade negotiator discussing the slow progress being made on a trade deal between the US and the EU.

It was taking time, he said, because the US was having to learn how to deal with an adversary who was an equal.
This was in stark contrast with the way the US deals with individual countries.

“Normally we just fax them our terms and tell them to sign.”

Thanks red

No wonder Trump HATES the EU

Thanks for the thread, Red.
Emailed a link to JJ’s article to my (Tory) MP. The one who always responds properly on HOC paper, but says nothing worth saying.
I still think it was “revelations” about Aaron Banks that was the game changer - that set the dominoes toppling - because so many people now realise that the crimes and corruption can’t be covered up.

BigChocFrenzy thanks for that link. How can people still believe the UK has a hope without the protection of the EU? We'll be starting from the same position as North Korea, except much juicier. The UK will be torn to shreds in any trade deals. But a few will get very rich.

I only have first class stamps - so I will be posting my letters tomorrow. I'm also marching in York tomorrow.

I've never written to a PM before - what does one put on the envelope?
Office of PM?
Theresa May?
The Prime Minister?

Thanks for the new thread Red.

Thanks for the shiny new thread @RedToothBrush, and for that photo showing cabinet support for May. I wish the entitled wankers leading us into the void would suffer like us ordinary types, but they won't, it won't even register unless they try to travel overseas.