Has Boris been outmanoevered? Will someone please tell me who is in charge?

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BBC:
UKIP MP Douglas Carswell urges need for 'right tone' in Brexit negotiations

UKIP MP Douglas Carswell hints that he may be unimpressed with his party leader Nigel Farage's behaviour in the European Parliament earlier.

He's 52, and about 3 or 4 months younger than Brad.

So Carswell is floating the idea that "swagger in, piss 'em off, then sit down" is NOT the way to go?

I wouldn't fancy either Farage or Juncker in a fight. They'd have some bloke called something like Fat Gav to do their scrapping for them. They'd just stand on the sideline cheering Fat Gav on.

Pat Glass the new shadow education secretary shares a letter to her local party chairman, saying she will not contest her seat at the next election.

The letter says that seeing that a General Election could come as early as October 2016, she wanted to give them as much time as possible to prepare and select another candidate.

Carswell and Farage are sworn foes aren't they?

I saw that letter, but I got the impression she was just preparing in case of a GE, not that she necessarily expected one, and didn't want to leave them in the lurch.

And then pretend Fat Gav was nothing to do with them Mitzy?!

Exactly, Fat Gav will take the fall. He's loyal is Gav.

LOL, I just saw it was 20 pages. I thought that was our lot

I usually leave threads at around the 10 page mark.

Sorry about that.

Maybe it should be a splitter's thread, based on the Juncker v Forage punch up.

Sort the bureaucrats from the populists!

Fate of Corbyn expected at 4.30pm.

‎@faisalislam

Half an hour ago only 18 Labour MPs hadn't voted in the no confidence vote - mainly COrbyn supporters rushed in at last moment
4.04pm

Interestingly I understand Corbyn MPs did end up voting, had been suggestions they would not as part of effort to delegitimise motion
4.11pm

Hmm....

New non-EU rules.

I feel genuinely bad for Fat Gav 😢

Fat Gav is the loser in all this.

Taking punches so rich men who despise him can play games with each other.

Je suis Fat Gav

(although am low carbing at the moment)

Sky reporting that Corbyn has lost the vote overwhelmingly.

I think I should take up being a fortune teller. I've been having a good week.

Je suis Gav Gros

(Only official EU languages accepted under 2016 Character Names Directive)

Did you predict Brexit?

Jeremy needs to GO!

Gav Gros v Fat Gav

I had serious doubts about Remain winning. The betting was wrong, and I did pick up on that. I picked up on a few other things too. I thought it would be incredibly close. I could see the way it was going.

I was blinded by my own desire for Remain to win more than anything.

DH is in despair. Corbyn gone 170 to 40 votes.
He points out that the Labour Party members felt he was the only leader elected by the people.
He now thinks that will loose even more votes to UKIP.

sorry 172 to 40

I'm Irish

Oops sorry!

(I mean, sorry I assumed. Not sorry that you're Irish. Obviously. )

Clinging on will just be egotistical and party suicide!

Corbyn labelling it a 'Blairite Coup'.